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Poll: What Do You Like In A Story?

Which of these is important to you in a story or other artwork?

  • As much sex as possible (pornographic)

  • Plausible situations (feels like real life)

  • As much blood and gore as possible

  • A storyline that would be interesting with or without erotic detail

  • Characters with extreme/creative vulgar language

  • Erotic humor

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old slave said:
As a writer of two very modest little stories so far, I'm going to save this list and compare anything more I attempt with it.

I also feel there is a place for some of the fantasy, time-travel, dragons stories here, we need some lighter stuff ( I do anyway).
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I am not big on the dragon part, and CF is all fantasy, but mix in time travel, dragons, and fantasy and it does remind me of when I sent Eul back in time machine but she didn't end up where I thought she would (I need to work on a few things) and the local fishermen offered her up as a sacrifice to the sea dragon to the save their kin...

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I like stories in parts. For a large texts (on one day) I have no time. Between the parts a few days pause wished.

Sex in the crucifixion procedure I refuse, that can be performed before of after.

Stories with many details give the text a literary quality and the English is also more sophisticated than texts from news or science. Therefore I do not have time too. Above all I am a man in the Europaradise and my English is not native...
 
It's interesting to see how many people mention plausible stories, realism, character development, historical accuracy, psychology of the players involved, and natural human reactions, things that make a story believable and engaging to my way of thinking. These are all things that I'm very much into when I write a story, and stories that don't pay attention to those don't engage me past the first paragraph, which is when I lose interest move on to something more interesting, like sorting my socks or cleaning the lint out of my dryer.

Fantasy is ok, but I much prefer fiction, which for the crux genre usually turns out to be historical fiction. Getting that right takes a lot of research, all the way down to constructing believable names and creating humor that is consistent with the times. Not always easy, but the results are satisfying to me, and hopefully to my readers as well.
 
jedakk said:
It's interesting to see how many people mention plausible stories, realism, character development, historical accuracy, psychology of the players involved, and natural human reactions, things that make a story believable and engaging to my way of thinking. These are all things that I'm very much into when I write a story, and stories that don't pay attention to those don't engage me past the first paragraph, which is when I lose interest move on to something more interesting, like sorting my socks or cleaning the lint out of my dryer.

Fantasy is ok, but I much prefer fiction, which for the crux genre usually turns out to be historical fiction. Getting that right takes a lot of research, all the way down to constructing believable names and creating humor that is consistent with the times. Not always easy, but the results are satisfying to me, and hopefully to my readers as well.
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I truly love your renderings but when you put your stories with them they are magnified multiple times. I get lost in fantasy stories... I try to keep up but find them confusing even when well written...

But I could be old....

Tree
 
thehangingtree said:
I truly love your renderings but when you put your stories with them they are magnified multiple times. I get lost in fantasy stories... I try to keep up but find them confusing even when well written...

But I could be old....

Tree
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Yes, even I can see that myself when my own stories and illustrations come together and reinforce each other. And there's an interesting interaction in the creative process too, when I create the illustration for a scene I'd written about and in the process figure out a better, more powerful way to write that scene, or maybe figure out that it just physically won't work the way I've written it and have to re-write it.

Talking about old, my first great-grandson was born this morning.
 
jedakk said:
Yes, even I can see that myself when my own stories and illustrations come together and reinforce each other. And there's an interesting interaction in the creative process too, when I create the illustration for a scene I'd written about and in the process figure out a better, more powerful way to write that scene, or maybe figure out that it just physically won't work the way I've written it and have to re-write it.

Talking about old, my first great-grandson was born this morning.
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Aww ... Congrats on becoming a grandad! Proud moment!!
 
jedakk said:
Actually, a GREAT-granddad. His mother is one of my granddaughters. I already had a great-granddaughter, but this is my first great-grandson.
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Many congratulations Jed.

On stories and plausibility, I'm a long time fan of SF and fantasy escapism. For me plausibility is about internal consistency, not whether there are dragons or aliens. Given x and y, what is likely to happen. The same with eroticism, give me something I can imagine happening in a given situation, wherever or whenever that is.
Give me something I can imagine being part of, in whatever guise, or people I can feel a connection with.
 
The best fiction comes from Balzac, creating 1000 characters which are phantasy (of course) but linked to reality with the consequence that these fictions gradually became reality (so as with their name a typical character in the society) till now on.
 
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Very interesting thread indeed.

So, my turn, i guess.

Like most people here, it seems, I like something that can be believed in, even if it's not 100% 'historical'. My preferences are medieval times, ancient times, heroic fantasy and sci-fi (in that order). Not that I won't like a good 'modern' story, with beautiful captured female spies and the like, but it's less my thing.

The storyline is of course very important. It should be all about storytelling and physical torture must be consistent with the situations described, not gratuitous. That's why I would say: 'Blood and gore: yes, but it must 'naturally' ensues from the storyline, the psychology and the decisions of the characters.

I pay particular attention to the interactions between the victim(s) and tormentor(s), and to the fact that the victim is brave. Of course she may (must) go through a whole range of emotions, from cold defiance to distress and even despair, but I see no point in torturing a wimp.

What I most like:
- the tormentor ending up feeling respect for the bravery of his victim and even feeling bad about what's happening.
- the tormentor and the victim being 'trapped' by a situation they didn't really choose but having to 'perform their roles' because of sense of duty, social pressure, excessive pride and so on ('I don't really want to hurt you, but I've to.' I don't really want to suffer, but I have to').

What I don't like at all: violence without imagination (i.e. beating a woman by punching her), vulgar language being used without purpose (if it's about humiliating the victim and used sparingly, it's OK), 'quick' methods of execution (beheading, hanging, bullets, ...)

Sex: yes, of course, but it's not absolutely necessary for me. As long as there's a 'sexual' dimension to the story, it's OK. Again, a lot can be expressed by the characters changing attitudes and emotions toward each other.

Humor... Well, I can appreciate some humoristic / sarcastic remarks from the characters, only if, once again, it realistically fits within the story. For example, in Wragg's 'Chronicles Of The Silver River', Barbaria telling him from her cross: 'We’ve spent the night together in the nude and I don’t even know your name' was absolutely great...
 
Barbaria1 said:
There are so many elements to a good story, but to name a few that I like:

1) A plausible premise, with believable historical or contemporary contexts to set the stage for what is to follow. And story development helps too. Some twists and turns. Hopes and reversals. The story can be a lot more than just a series of torture scenes ending with death.

2) As a victim, which I almost always am, a sense of real peril is important ... things spinning out of control, finding myself in a predicament from which it seems there is no way out.

3) Adequate attention paid to my thoughts and emotions: helplessness, fear, anticipation, humiliation, shame, resignation, pain, suffering, exhaustion, etc. (this can also apply to my tormentor, interrogator, or executioner ... what is she or he thinking?)

4) A recognition that the human body can take only so much, especially if the victim is to survive for multiple episodes ... so don't mutilate or destroy me in the first interrogation, whipping, or whatever torment or punishment may be inflicted. I want to believably be still able to take more in subsequent situations.

5) Thick and imaginative description of my suffering ... tell of the tools of torture, of the means of whipping, of the process of nailing, etc. ... and their effects on my mind and body ... make it realistic ... not just mindless cruelty accompanied by screams.

These are a few things that come to mind ... I am sure there is plenty that could be added to the above.
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That sounds like a perfect recipe to me!
 
Great question. For me I have to be honest I come on the site when I'm hard and horny. In short im here to get off 1st socialise 2nd. So I am totally guilty of skipping to the juicy bits (torture,execution) so on.

But the best stories are always the ones you read from the beginning. When you get that anticipation and build up. But saying that some stories can be way to long and have to much time between action. I definitely write short bang stories but try to flesh them out as best I can. I have had a few discussions on here about innocence and guilt, consenual and non consenual. It definitely fascinates me what does and doesn't work to turn people on in a sexy story. For that is the goal is it not?

I remember the stories on haffnium they were my favourite. Tough women taking punishment. Sometimes getting free sometimes not. I especially liked the ones where the original torturer is betrayed then takes the worst and is brutally executed as her former guards and king look on and her original victim is set free.

Thanks again for sparking such a wonderful debate
 
shastar said:
Very interesting thread indeed.

So, my turn, i guess.

Like most people here, it seems, I like something that can be believed in, even if it's not 100% 'historical'. My preferences are medieval times, ancient times, heroic fantasy and sci-fi (in that order). Not that I won't like a good 'modern' story, with beautiful captured female spies and the like, but it's less my thing.

The storyline is of course very important. It should be all about storytelling and physical torture must be consistent with the situations described, not gratuitous. That's why I would say: 'Blood and gore: yes, but it must 'naturally' ensues from the storyline, the psychology and the decisions of the characters.

I pay particular attention to the interactions between the victim(s) and tormentor(s), and to the fact that the victim is brave. Of course she may (must) go through a whole range of emotions, from cold defiance to distress and even despair, but I see no point in torturing a wimp.

What I most like:
- the tormentor ending up feeling respect for the bravery of his victim and even feeling bad about what's happening.
- the tormentor and the victim being 'trapped' by a situation they didn't really choose but having to 'perform their roles' because of sense of duty, social pressure, excessive pride and so on ('I don't really want to hurt you, but I've to.' I don't really want to suffer, but I have to').

What I don't like at all: violence without imagination (i.e. beating a woman by punching her), vulgar language being used without purpose (if it's about humiliating the victim and used sparingly, it's OK), 'quick' methods of execution (beheading, hanging, bullets, ...)

Sex: yes, of course, but it's not absolutely necessary for me. As long as there's a 'sexual' dimension to the story, it's OK. Again, a lot can be expressed by the characters changing attitudes and emotions toward each other.

Humor... Well, I can appreciate some humoristic / sarcastic remarks from the characters, only if, once again, it realistically fits within the story. For example, in Wragg's 'Chronicles Of The Silver River', Barbaria telling him from her cross: 'We’ve spent the night together in the nude and I don’t even know your name' was absolutely great...
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Aww, thanks Shastar! You made my day! :)
 
shastar said:
Very interesting thread indeed.
Humor... Well, I can appreciate some humoristic / sarcastic remarks from the characters, only if, once again, it realistically fits within the story. For example, in Wragg's 'Chronicles Of The Silver River', Barbaria telling him from her cross: 'We’ve spent the night together in the nude and I don’t even know your name' was absolutely great...
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We have this story not as eBook!
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Eulalia said:
On the negative side, crux/ BDSM stories (or parts of stories) that don't work so well for me concentrate too much on the 'mechanics' and/or the anatomical details.
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This is interesting to me, Eulalia. Could you explain more what you mean? As I think I've expressed before, some of my favorite scenarios are very procedural, judicial executions, where the woman is forced to comply with the formal procedure of her own torture, humiliation, and death. It's a HUGELY significant event for her, because it will end her life, and it will cause her more pain and humiliation than she's ever felt. But for the executioners, it's just another day's work. That contrast really gets me. Sorry - I started rambling. I meant to ask if the "mechanics" you're talking about are related to the "procedure" I'm talking about. :)
 
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