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Brandy

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In the Standard Forum of CW, I did by observing the statistics of these threads, formulated several conclusions. I have always heard that statistics never lie but when I add my prejudices to the statistical data here, I question whether I make the meaning of statistics mean what I want data to mean. Based on current data, here is what I think the statistics on CF means. If you disagee, say so..
From the number of views terrible tortures before crucifixion with 6385 view was the most popular topic. I conclude that the people using this forum are very sadomasochistic in their interest on the CF. Also, their S&M is limited to mostly fantasy and not actual fulfilment. The hypothesis is that most people do not have a safe means to act out their fantasy. Safe also means, they do not want to be exposed as S&M and are ashamed of their kink. I personally fall into this category.

The Climax Question had a mant views, over 4727. It is obvious what this statistic says. People here are horny and crucifixion turns them on. But, it is more than crucifixion, it is female crucifixion. By reading other topics and the number of views each topic has, the topics that refer to female crucifixion receive the most attention. Sorry to inform the highly motivated males who like to be the victim in crux, you do not receive much attention here. People just like to torture and crucify us girls much better.

By reading the number of Replies in relation to the number of Views, it is clear that the membership is very fearful of being exposed as S&M. A large number of recent visitors to CF have been members for several years but have never ventured to write the smallest reply. Their interest has been here and endured for a long time. I belong to this category. I have been around for a long time and until recently only responded through my husband’s threads. I have been terribly ashamed of my interest and afraid of being found out. What scares me is that I am becoming more bold in expressing my feelings as I enter senior citizenship. (I want to fantasise that I am a long way from SC.)

What else do the statistics say? I will give you a chance to reply and will continue to think about what these are telling and will try to reply later.
Love,
Brandy
 
I have been a member for a few months and have posted about 20 messages. My computer skills are limited to written comments only, so I fell a little inept when I see all the fantastic images and manipulations that others post.
I too an turned on by a young slim woman on the cross, but only you here know that. I consider it OK to see such images on a site like this as I know it's only fantasy and the women portrayed are either fantasy figures or willing models.
I have never participated in any form of BDSM etc simply because I'm not sure if I'd actually like it, better to stick to images on a screen I know aren't real and keep it all in my head.
 
questperilous said:
I have been a member for a few months and have posted about 20 messages. My computer skills are limited to written comments only, so I fell a little inept when I see all the fantastic images and manipulations that others post.
I too an turned on by a young slim woman on the cross, but only you here know that. I consider it OK to see such images on a site like this as I know it's only fantasy and the women portrayed are either fantasy figures or willing models.
I have never participated in any form of BDSM etc simply because I'm not sure if I'd actually like it, better to stick to images on a screen I know aren't real and keep it all in my head.
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Hi I agree with the above,i like watching,as long as it is FANTASY only,and with a willing participant !!
If solo i do it safely !!(VERY safely !!)
I wouldn't like it,viciously,done to me,so give the other party the same consideration.....
Cheers BJP.
 
Interesting analysis. I would like to make a few observations of my own, if I may.
First, you were told wrong. Statistics do lie. Politicians, news pundits & advertiser use them to lie all the time. They count on people accepting statistics as fact.
Second, over all, I think you are right in your conclusions. Most of us are into this stuff as fantasy & have no desire to participate in any of this stuff in real life. And that's a good thing. And, since most of us, at least most who post responses, are straight males or gay/bi women, there is more interest in female crux. This doesn't mean some of us aren't turned on by male victims or fantasies about being a male victim, but there seems to be more interest in females.
I do, however, think you're mistake as to the reasons only a small percentage of members actually post comments. I don't think they are embarrassed or afraid of having their dirty little secret revealed. The whole reason this & similar forums exist is to provide safety & anonymity. That's the reason most of us use fake screen names. Or did you really think my parents named me after an anime character? I belong to other similar forums: Cruxfoundation, The Dark Spot, Stakedamsels; all of them have this same situation of having far more viewers than posters. I think it is more a matter of laziness. Most people belong just so they can look at the pretty pictures, and not so they can contribute. I'm sure it's even more the case on sites like Gurochan that don't require membership. I'm pretty much a lurker there, I think I've only contributed a couple of comments. I also belong to some non fetish sites where the percentage of viewers is far more than the few who post.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Any others? :-B
 
Brandy obviously you have never heard "Figures lie and lairs figure", and I was told that by a statistics teacher!

As to why most people don't participate I don't know but I do know it is a truism for every single webforum, no matter what subject you pick, that most members are lurkers. As to why I don't know why.

My suspicion on this subject is a number of lurkers feel that it is still somewhat taboo and are embarrassed by being interested. I mean I'm not going to discuss this with mom and the family over the dinner table and when I'm dating I am very careful about feeling out my partner about where they stand on "kinky" and what they do or do not consider kinky. I sometimes imagine the traits I want in a lifelong partner are not the same ones I'd be looking for in a playmate.

But when I'm here this is what I want to discuss.

Sometimes I think that people are embarrassed by sexual content of this. I KNOW that guys I have roleplayed with on the internet have gotten off while they describe torturing me (it's easy to tell when they are distracted), dirty little secret guys, I GET MYSELF OFF if you are good at describing how you are abusing me.

God when "A" did the picture of me being tortured on the cross I got off on that image until I was sore.

I'm flattered that you find the idea of tormenting me and killing me sexually exciting. There are girls you'd find ugly and couldn't care less about.

So pipe up troops, you can't embarrass or insult me (lord knows people have tried) and if I walk past you on the street (I'm the tall leggy brunette with the short skirt) I don't know who you are, so participate.

And one more comment on statistics: Why is a woman's depth perception off? She's always being told 6 inches is a foot. (Think about it).

kisses

willowfall
 
As the Romans would say "Si agendum est, age cum splendore." ;)

Hands up please and no calling out!

Melissa
 
Naraku said:
Interesting analysis. I would like to make a few observations of my own, if I may.
First, you were told wrong. Statistics do lie. Politicians, news pundits & advertiser use them to lie all the time. They count on people accepting statistics as fact.
Second, over all, I think you are right in your conclusions. Most of us are into this stuff as fantasy & have no desire to participate in any of this stuff in real life. And that's a good thing. And, since most of us, at least most who post responses, are straight males or gay/bi women, there is more interest in female crux. This doesn't mean some of us aren't turned on by male victims or fantasies about being a male victim, but there seems to be more interest in females.
I do, however, think you're mistake as to the reasons only a small percentage of members actually post comments. I don't think they are embarrassed or afraid of having their dirty little secret revealed. The whole reason this & similar forums exist is to provide safety & anonymity. That's the reason most of us use fake screen names. Or did you really think my parents named me after an anime character? I belong to other similar forums: Cruxfoundation, The Dark Spot, Stakedamsels; all of them have this same situation of having far more viewers than posters. I think it is more a matter of laziness. Most people belong just so they can look at the pretty pictures, and not so they can contribute. I'm sure it's even more the case on sites like Gurochan that don't require membership. I'm pretty much a lurker there, I think I've only contributed a couple of comments. I also belong to some non fetish sites where the percentage of viewers is far more than the few who post.
Anyway, those are my thoughts. Any others? :-B
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Yep you hit the nail on the head... statistics do in fact lie and can be easily manipulated via numerous approaches......as for the remainder of your comment...I agree mostly.... any message board forum has far more viewers than contributors or posters on both adult and vanilla social media sites. I've met peeps who say yes I've been on there for years but don't post because I don't want to be confronted or bashed if I sound dumb..... tons of reasons why more lurkers.....as you've stated.....But I'd be interested to see if the old 80/20 rule applies here as well..... 20% post 80% of the content? Brandy care to run the numbers? :)
 
willowfall said:
And one more comment on statistics: Why is a woman's depth perception off? She's always being told 6 inches is a foot. (Think about it).

kisses

willowfall
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That's the way God Planned it.....LMAO...... and yes I did "think about it" LOL
 
Brandy said:
In the Standard Forum of CW, I did by observing the statistics of these threads, formulated several conclusions. I have always heard that statistics never lie but when I add my prejudices to the statistical data here, I question whether I make the meaning of statistics mean what I want data to mean. Based on current data, here is what I think the statistics on CF means. If you disagee, say so..
From the number of views terrible tortures before crucifixion with 6385 view was the most popular topic. I conclude that the people using this forum are very sadomasochistic in their interest on the CF. Also, their S&M is limited to mostly fantasy and not actual fulfilment. The hypothesis is that most people do not have a safe means to act out their fantasy. Safe also means, they do not want to be exposed as S&M and are ashamed of their kink. I personally fall into this category.

The Climax Question had a mant views, over 4727. It is obvious what this statistic says. People here are horny and crucifixion turns them on. But, it is more than crucifixion, it is female crucifixion. By reading other topics and the number of views each topic has, the topics that refer to female crucifixion receive the most attention. Sorry to inform the highly motivated males who like to be the victim in crux, you do not receive much attention here. People just like to torture and crucify us girls much better.

By reading the number of Replies in relation to the number of Views, it is clear that the membership is very fearful of being exposed as S&M. A large number of recent visitors to CF have been members for several years but have never ventured to write the smallest reply. Their interest has been here and endured for a long time. I belong to this category. I have been around for a long time and until recently only responded through my husband’s threads. I have been terribly ashamed of my interest and afraid of being found out. What scares me is that I am becoming more bold in expressing my feelings as I enter senior citizenship. (I want to fantasise that I am a long way from SC.)

What else do the statistics say? I will give you a chance to reply and will continue to think about what these are telling and will try to reply later.
Love,
Brandy
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It is always possible, no statistics possession here, only intuitiveness, that writing in a forum serves as catharsis, to avoid to make crime with illegal assault or rape and torture with arbitrary woman; if he dared to do this, but in phantasy gives her the most cruel life-moments to block her normality. She hangs, suffers and gets agony, that what he never can realize will he not be criminal but what for him gives a tremendous kick.
Typical that also women like this object on phantasies, they have, my intuition, a continuity of their for centuries transsubstantial humility and subordination.

Theoretically, what would happen when an accused on court says he learned from this forum? I think psychiatrists would deny this, who becomes criminal has already another abberative character.

I and we here are God thanks normal with in the World of Phantasy a specially innocent one!

FOX
 
Statistics can lie but often just distort the truth (depending on who's truth it is). In my home state of Missouri we have 'crumbling highways and more structurally deficient bridges'. Okay, put a chip and seal on the roads and 'structurally deficient' bridges means they don't have 8 foot shoulders, never mind the road leading to them has NO shoulders...

Join in and play

t
 
penispaain said:
Yep you hit the nail on the head... statistics do in fact lie and can be easily manipulated via numerous approaches......as for the remainder of your comment...I agree mostly.... any message board forum has far more viewers than contributors or posters on both adult and vanilla social media sites. I've met peeps who say yes I've been on there for years but don't post because I don't want to be confronted or bashed if I sound dumb..... tons of reasons why more lurkers.....as you've stated.....But I'd be interested to see if the old 80/20 rule applies here as well..... 20% post 80% of the content? Brandy care to run the numbers? :)
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forget 80/20, it would be closer to 0.5% of the members post 99.something% of the content. That's typical for this sort of group.
12,000 members - name me 50 active members (post every week).
It's a pity, most of us are nice and wouldn't dream of bashing a new poster, would we?

ps I used to work in statistics, they don't lie in themselves, some people use them misleadingly, and most people are not taught how to understand and evaluate them, which is a criminal failing of the education system.
 
cxslave said:
You guys do realize the original post was made 4.5 years ago right?:p All I know is that I'm sure glad I emerged from the darkness of lurking and into the glorious light that is CF! I would never be mean to anyone, the more posters the better!:D
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...and we all hope you survive your crucifixion, too...

Tree

...shut up, Ulrika, she as a chance to... yes, I would place more money on an ice cube in hell than her making it but...
 
Yes, I'm fairly doubtful about drawing conclusions from the raw figures.
You're right Phlebas, indeed at any time I'd expect to find a dozen or so members
on-site actively posting, that's about 0.1% of registered membership,
and a similar number 'lurking'. And although membership has grown exponentially
over the the time I've been here, those levels of activity have hardly changed.

But I don't think I see anything that says we're getting it wrong,
or obvious changes we could make to attract more activity -
though suggestions are always welcome!

It's interesting to hear from you cx and others who 'lurked' for some time before jumping in -
what inhibited you? what prompted you to pluck up courage?
 
Eulalia said:
Yes, I'm fairly doubtful about drawing conclusions from the raw figures.
You're right Phlebas, indeed at any time I'd expect to find a dozen or so members
on-site actively posting, that's about 0.1% of registered membership,
and a similar number 'lurking'. And although membership has grown exponentially
over the the time I've been here, those levels of activity have hardly changed.

But I don't think I see anything that says we're getting it wrong,
or obvious changes we could make to attract more activity -
though suggestions are always welcome!

It's interesting to hear from you cx and others who 'lurked' for some time before jumping in -
what inhibited you? what prompted you to pluck up courage?
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I'm not sure really! I hadn't even made a profile for the first few weeks but eventually I wanted the pics to be bigger!:p Than once I was signed up I couldn't resist from getting into all of the arousing conversation! I guess at first it was just intimidation from all the inside jokes and not wanting to be "out in the open." Eventually though I just couldnt resist any longer and the rest is history!
 
Eulalia said:
Yes, I'm fairly doubtful about drawing conclusions from the raw figures.
You're right Phlebas, indeed at any time I'd expect to find a dozen or so members
on-site actively posting, that's about 0.1% of registered membership,
and a similar number 'lurking'. And although membership has grown exponentially
over the the time I've been here, those levels of activity have hardly changed.

But I don't think I see anything that says we're getting it wrong,
or obvious changes we could make to attract more activity -
though suggestions are always welcome!

It's interesting to hear from you cx and others who 'lurked' for some time before jumping in -
what inhibited you? what prompted you to pluck up courage?
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I can contribute a little here because I was originally a lurker, as were most of us I would guess. There is some truth to the intimidating feeling that one might be an outsider. To the outsider, the active members do seem to know one another and there are a lot of inside jokes, so one can feel a little intimidated and it can take a little courage to make the plunge. But what helped in my case was the friendliness of so many of the active members. I think the place is actually very welcoming, that people here do go out of their way to greet and encourage new members to participate and post. So I agree with Eul when she says that she doesn't see anything that says we are getting it wrong.
 
Eulalia said:
But I don't think I see anything that says we're getting it wrong,
or obvious changes we could make to attract more activity -
though suggestions are always welcome!
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The ultimate way to attract people always is porno. But that is here not useful.
Tits and cunts are normal but normal is not special.
Self to get naked for us all is not done, we stay in anonymity.
A photo from real nails would be an high stand but is esthetically forbidden.
Be sure: nudity is not sexuality.

Conclusion: I have no idea to resemble more writers, I think we all do our best and best is maximum.

In addition:

July 31th 1556 died Ignatius of Loyola, a immensely great thinker. But to get his level he did BDSM for himself!
"...and spent several months in a cave near where he practiced rigorous asceticism." (WIKI)
And why should he not have had a cross in his monastery cell?
 
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