Good examples of what happens when you foreshorten everything except the arms. Note how Waterhouse's figure also shows foreshortening in the left forearm.A couple of well-known paintings show dramatic foreshortening,
not of the arms but the body when viewed from above the head:
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(the image of Waterhouse's Eulalia is deliberately inverted,
to make the comparison)
Your artwork represents Katrina accurately, you definitely did full justice to her beauty Bobinder. Well doneSeditio Sicarii 9
I have to confess that when I first saw the arresting image of Katrina crucified on the ground, I had no idea of the identity of this crux star and was unaware of the existence of the full photo series from which it came. However, the picture made such an impression on me that I decided the cross with its human burden was just crying out to be raised. Thus were the seeds sown for the drawing which became number 9 of the Seditio Sicarii series.
In retrospect I think the pose is more natural in the original horizontal plane. Nevertheless, I copied it fairly accurately, only deviating from the model's resigned expression, to provide more anguish, considering that I had replaced the ropes with nails in the appropriate stigmatic locations.
The cross was enlarged into my trademark forked stake with a split log patibulum, and I moved her out of the garden and into a more atmospherically oppressive, barren landscape. On this occasion no titulus has been provided, and only the picture's title hints at the nature of the capital crime. Whilst my Sicaria's face is not intended to portray Katrina, the body is indisputably hers, so I readily acknowledge the source. Thank you Katrina.
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Your artwork represents Katrina accurately, you definitely did full justice to her beauty Bobinder. Well done
I also loved this image of her, it has become one of my favorites. I was enthralled with the image at first sight.
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I feel you developed a real affection for that girl while you were 'crucifying' her, Bobinder
Bobinder, have you ever used my favorite Makar model as an inspiration for your art?Thank you for your very profound and accurate observation. The most successful pictures often convey the artist's love of the subject, and I wanted to evoke the atmosphere of overwhelming sadness I felt in identifying with her. If such emotional engagement is a measure of success then I am very pleased by your response.
Bobinder, have you ever used my favorite Makar model as an inspiration for your art?
Her name is Julia.
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Bobinder, have you ever used my favorite Makar model as an inspiration for your art?
Her name is Julia.
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Thank you for your reply Bobinder. That is what I was wondering, if you could, or have you in the past, used her as an inspiration for one of your composite figures, a new crux image. I didn't mean just a manipulation of her. I have tried, and tried to find out if she has anymore modeling work besides the crux work with Makar. I have been unable to come up with anything . Maybe you will have better luckHondo, further to my last message, my curiosity sent me to the Imagefap face filter, but I cannot find an exact match with Julia. If anybody knows of any studios or photographers she has worked with or other names she has used in modelling, they may be useful in tracking down further pictures. I imagine she will be Russian. Meanwhile, I could always attempt a 'new' composite figure from the Makar material we have here (I like a challenge!) Regards, B
Seditio Sicarii 4 after Passion Play
Seditio Sicarii 4 is a drawing which owes its origins entirely to a Pilar Olivares photograph of a passion play performed in 2010. Admittedly I was initially misled by the potentially androgynous, clean-shaven character on the cross, since the photograph accompanied an article about actresses seeking parts in passion plays. I jumped to the conclusion that one of them had (not for the first time) obtained the starring role and was, furthermore, performing topless! In hindsight, I think the photograph shows a male actor, although my drawing indicates a female.
In all other respects I have simply made a faithful copy of the picture in pencil on A4 paper. I have even retained the foot rest which is a necessary convenience for the actor, although in this form I consider it archaeologically unconvincing. As with the Urban Friday picture previously discussed, I found the low level viewpoint appealing, since this always gives an impression of the height from which the figure is suspended and is visually dramatic. This is further enhanced by the upturned head, putting the face almost out of view, and exposing the underside of the jaw and throat.
In my opinion, the Roman uniforms in the photograph look too decorative and unconvincing for Oberammergau, but I have no further information about this passion play. Can anybody furnish details about the actors and location?
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I just love your art Bobbinder!Seditio Sicarii 9
I have to confess that when I first saw the arresting image of Katrina crucified on the ground, I had no idea of the identity of this crux star and was unaware of the existence of the full photo series from which it came. However, the picture made such an impression on me that I decided the cross with its human burden was just crying out to be raised. Thus were the seeds sown for the drawing which became number 9 of the Seditio Sicarii series.
In retrospect I think the pose is more natural in the original horizontal plane. Nevertheless, I copied it fairly accurately, only deviating from the model's resigned expression, to provide more anguish, considering that I had replaced the ropes with nails in the appropriate stigmatic locations.
The cross was enlarged into my trademark forked stake with a split log patibulum, and I moved her out of the garden and into a more atmospherically oppressive, barren landscape. On this occasion no titulus has been provided, and only the picture's title hints at the nature of the capital crime. Whilst my Sicaria's face is not intended to portray Katrina, the body is indisputably hers, so I readily acknowledge the source. Thank you Katrina.
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Thank you for your reply Bobinder. That is what I was wondering, if you could, or have you in the past, used her as an inspiration for one of your composite figures, a new crux image. I didn't mean just a manipulation of her. I have tried, and tried to find out if she has anymore modeling work besides the crux work with Makar. I have been unable to come up with anything . Maybe you will have better luck
I just love your art Bobbinder!
Oh yes, I like 'behind the scenes' shots and out-takes from the sessions, in some ways even more than the posed shots, how the girls prepare themselves physically and mentally, how the experience affects them, how they cope with it all, that's the 'reality'.Some of the most haunting images of Oxana are entitled, 'Induction' and 'Too Late'. They might be posed, but Makar took a lot of pictures behind the scenes. If they are as candid as they appear, Makar had the honesty to publish the fact that his models genuinely suffered during the experience. Oxy performed excellent crux sequences both indoors and outdoors, but for me these pictures are the most authentically painful.
Precursor - Via Appia 1a
10 October 2016 marks the second anniversary of the launch of the Via Appia series on DeviantArt, inaugurated by my first full crux manipulation, 'Via Appia 1a'. I had been awed by the work of renowned crux artists, and had produced a quantity of drawings and paintings in the genre, although these were submitted to the gallery much later. In those early days I had no Photoshop or similar software, and my manipulations were all produced in Windows Paint and Openoffice Draw.
'Via Appia 1a' would be my debut in a niche genre in which I was completely unknown. I had no illusions about competing with the realism of the most talented established crux artists, but I was determined to make a good first impression. From the outset, this was my exploration of the tension between beauty and decay, and I wanted to be provocative. If the casual viewer reacted with, "Oh yes, a crucifix - OMG it's a girl!" that would be quite satisfactory.
Keeping it simple is usually a dependable rule, notwithstanding the fact that I get ambitious in my art and sometimes get stuck (or come unstuck!) I knew I could avoid all the problems of the background by reducing it to a full sky view. This also provided the opportunity for a dramatic low level viewpoint, making the viewer feel a virtual craning of the neck to look upwards (this image just had to be convincing.)
Makar's models have provided reliable material for many a manipulator, and I decided on a composite figure based on Kira and Jenia (aka Jane) although my pose would be original and not a simple copy and paste of a Makar figure. I relocated and reversed Kira's legs to give the slumped body a twist at the hips as well as overlapped feet, reworked her arms into a full stretch and added Jenia's face with distressed hair. This combination of pose and viewpoint conceals the genital region, providing a disturbingly pointless preservation of modesty, since the victim is exposed from other angles and is ultimately past caring.
Forced perspective would provide the visual drama with diagonal emphases on the arms, cross, clouds, loose rope ends and lettering on the titulus. I made some experimental rotations of the individual picture components in Openoffice Draw to achieve a consistent and cohesive arrangement of diagonals, including the subtle optical curve of the patibulum, seen from below (a mildly horrific artefact, bearing the bloody marks of previous executions.) All components were united by free-form cutting and pasting in Paint (I had to get these right first time or start over again) and the residual outline edges were blended in manually using the mouse as a paint brush. Bloodstains, nail heads and strands of hair were similarly 'painted' freehand.
As one of 6000 crucified Spartacus rebels, I gave her cross number 2014 to reflect the year of my first digital crux picture (I had already decided this would be the precursor to a Via Appia series) and the resulting 'Via Appia 1' appears as the penultimate image below. The monochrome version, produced in Openoffice Draw, provided a tonality control for the colour picture. It was working out well but I wanted it to look more disturbing, to imply the length of time the victim had been hanging. If the sky was darker, later in the day, the atmosphere might appear more oppressive. Openoffice Draw can only change the colour and tone of the entire picture, but by increasing the overall red balance it suggested the early evening light effect I sought for 'Via Appia 1a'.
Despite the appearance of nearly five hundred crux images in my gallery over the last two years, in terms of the number of members' collections on DeviantArt which now include it, 'Via Appia 1a' has proved to be my most popular picture to date. It remains a personal favourite as well as a landmark in my artistic journey of exploration. I was delighted to be warmly welcomed into the crux fraternity and feel proud to be a part of it. Thanks to all those by whom the picture was so well received, to Ramon for Cruxinart membership and to Phlebas for publicity on this forum, I had arrived.
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Definitely a favourite of mine and the different lighting makes it look like a new picture each time. I find it interesting that the breasts come from a girl on her back as you would think they would hang differently.
I think she looks too peaceful to be dead. She has fainted from hyperventilating and is dreaming of waking up in her own bed. Sadly she is going to be disappointed!