assistantann
Executioner
Seems that both the Japanese content and eastern Europe content can be pretty hard on the models. Why do you think that is and which is harder on the bondage models?
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Japanese vs eastern Europe BDSM content
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Good question. I do think there's a strong tradition of stoical submissiveness among Japanese (and other E Asian) women, that's impressively evident in the material from that part of the world - and one of systematic sadism among the men too - perhaps not 'sadism' as we'd understand it in the West, at its best, Japanese BDSM does seem to me to aspire to an art-form, something with an intrinsic beauty like a dance.
E Europe's a rather different matter, the tradition there is more of female toughness, capacity for endurance, but with more emphasis on the struggle, and less inhibition on showing extremes of emotion, screaming etc. But again, at its best, e.g. in Makar's crux videos, the artistic quality of body movements and reactions comes to the fore.
There are of course some genuinely erotic western BDSM models, but they do tend to either over-act, over-playing the damsel in distress/ scream queen, or at the other extreme, just looking glum.
And then we do need to consider the economics, the difference between models who do it because they enjoy it, the ones who just need the money.
E Europe's a rather different matter, the tradition there is more of female toughness, capacity for endurance, but with more emphasis on the struggle, and less inhibition on showing extremes of emotion, screaming etc. But again, at its best, e.g. in Makar's crux videos, the artistic quality of body movements and reactions comes to the fore.
There are of course some genuinely erotic western BDSM models, but they do tend to either over-act, over-playing the damsel in distress/ scream queen, or at the other extreme, just looking glum.
And then we do need to consider the economics, the difference between models who do it because they enjoy it, the ones who just need the money.
assistantann
Executioner
Yes good response. The Asian models do seem to suffer quite submissively while the dorms seem to take great pleasure in torturing them. But it is quite erotic
captivecuties
Senator
Very astute and I agree.
From jaderope.com:
Remains of rope have been found dating back to 2800BC in Asia1. It would be remiss to believe that nobody utilised the invention to tie another person throughout the thousands of years which passed before the Edo period in Japan, but it is this period (1603-1867) which is widely cited as the birth for modern day rope based bondage.
prtn
Governor
nowadays, its the Japanese that go harder on the models
Fantasmo
Senator
Indeed, more and more the claws of censorship are having effect in the West
Leather too, for whips and harness, has a long history, and the making of ornamental whips and harness for horses were jobs for skilled and, at best, very artistic craftsmen. But I think only in shibari do we see binding humans, especially good-looking females, practised as an art-form almost akin to sculpture. I wouldn't regard pony-girl harnessing as being in the same league, though I suppose it could be taken to that level if it were practised as an end in itself. And, for the model herself, it must surely be an experience quite different from taking part in a western BDSM video shoot.
20Underolden23!
Onlooker
I think shibari is the most elegant way of female bondage.
captivecuties
Senator
Shibari is Japanese for “add more rope”
LoveBomdage1960
Condemned
Japanese Bondage has two names Shibari/Shibaru or Kinbaku. Shibari/Shibaru " Binding/Tying ". Kinbaku " Tight Bondage " and is more modern fetish word being used.
I feel the Japanese is more art form based compared to Western style. Censorship in the West has become an issue now, so I think Japanese has become more extreme, but again with modern filming you can create images that could never have been created 20 years ago.
I feel the Japanese is more art form based compared to Western style. Censorship in the West has become an issue now, so I think Japanese has become more extreme, but again with modern filming you can create images that could never have been created 20 years ago.
SirMGBZ
Governor
That is a tough call. On the one hand, there are sites like night24 and spanking-jp. But on the other, besides mood/ep/graias, there is rigid East/lupus, and for us old-timers, Russian wood shed.
But that overlooks wild Africa caning, whipped-pussy, and whipping-films. All intense, and all (to the best of my knowledge) not Eastern European or Japanese and far east Asian.
But I agree that modern big-name American studios are just not producing content like that.
Just my 2.98¥ worth, YMMV, void where prohibited by law. ;-)
But that overlooks wild Africa caning, whipped-pussy, and whipping-films. All intense, and all (to the best of my knowledge) not Eastern European or Japanese and far east Asian.
But I agree that modern big-name American studios are just not producing content like that.
Just my 2.98¥ worth, YMMV, void where prohibited by law. ;-)
fallenmystic
Tribune
I can see that you're a person of refined taste.
prtn
Governor
from all the studios you mentioned I know everyone but two, Russian wood and African caning, who are those?
SirMGBZ
Governor
The studios are as I named. Wild Africa Caning and The Russian Wood Shed. They have been defunct for at least a decade, of not two. ;-)
You may be able to find them out there somewhere. I try periodically, with varied degrees of success.
prtn
Governor
thank, could I find them by just searching their names?
SirMGBZ
Governor
I’m not finding them right now. But do like I do, and search periodically.
But if you find anything from whipped-pussy.com featuring Antoinette, check it out. She has the best scream ever.