I will tell you a tale. I've told it before, but not often. I didn't want it to seem like I was full of myself. I got into crux on a dark and stormy night in March, 2002. Really. This PTSD New Yorker was web surfing deep into the night, and for reasons that still elude me googled "crucified women." Photo3.jpg was the first hit I got. A few months later I came upon egypt3.jpg. And learned later that Makar was extremely displeased that Damian was adapting his work. So I emailed them both. Something like: "Gentlemen. Makar, you are doing photography unlike any being done. Damian, you are one of the best manip artists in the business. You are natural allies. Get together. Collaborate. Gentlemen, over to you. They did. I'm going to post in this thread Makar's templates and Damian's end images.