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it’s either naked or clothed as they found you. The very idea that the execution squad would remove clothing from those to be crucified but stopped at the loincloth or underwear is ridiculous. Imagine them saying that they’d leave that on to maintain the dignity of the victim or the blushes of women watching is stupid, why remove the clothing in the first place but to totally humiliate the victims In front of the watching crowd, a naked & vulnerable person in agony on a cross would be perfect material for a hostile crowd to excercise the worst insults & mockery.
Alternatively with a mass crucifixion such as what Alexander did at Tyre it seemed unnecessary to use the victims as a deterrent, it was just mass killing that was in order, so I imagine everyone was roped up on crosses dressed as they were to starve to death.
 
PhilX said:
it’s either naked or clothed as they found you. The very idea that the execution squad would remove clothing from those to be crucified but stopped at the loincloth or underwear is ridiculous. Imagine them saying that they’d leave that on to maintain the dignity of the victim or the blushes of women watching is stupid, why remove the clothing in the first place but to totally humiliate the victims In front of the watching crowd, a naked & vulnerable person in agony on a cross would be perfect material for a hostile crowd to excercise the worst insults & mockery.
Alternatively with a mass crucifixion such as what Alexander did at Tyre it seemed unnecessary to use the victims as a deterrent, it was just mass killing that was in order, so I imagine everyone was roped up on crosses dressed as they were to starve to death.
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But it's still better to crucify the victim naked
 
Friends, I would like to ask your opinion. Who do you think does a good job of crucifying guys? Do you think it would be nice to crucify these guys?
 
PhilX said:
it’s either naked or clothed as they found you. The very idea that the execution squad would remove clothing from those to be crucified but stopped at the loincloth or underwear is ridiculous. Imagine them saying that they’d leave that on to maintain the dignity of the victim or the blushes of women watching is stupid, why remove the clothing in the first place but to totally humiliate the victims In front of the watching crowd, a naked & vulnerable person in agony on a cross would be perfect material for a hostile crowd to excercise the worst insults & mockery.
Alternatively with a mass crucifixion such as what Alexander did at Tyre it seemed unnecessary to use the victims as a deterrent, it was just mass killing that was in order, so I imagine everyone was roped up on crosses dressed as they were to starve to death.
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I understand the loincloth as idea of the catholic church, biblically one would either use sackcloth or nude. Nude had the disadvantage that the godly and circumsized member was shown, probably in an aroused state which would make it inapropriate for younger church goers and would probably contradict some religious dogmas, which for me indicates that those are wrong. As Roman officer, call me Dfgius XLII, I would do THE crucifixion nude, because the Jews were mostly ashamed by nudity and it was detesting to show the glans, also for civilised Romans, so it would be a double humiliation as was intented by the titulus by the way.
 
PhilX said:
it’s either naked or clothed as they found you. The very idea that the execution squad would remove clothing from those to be crucified but stopped at the loincloth or underwear is ridiculous. Imagine them saying that they’d leave that on to maintain the dignity of the victim or the blushes of women watching is stupid, why remove the clothing in the first place but to totally humiliate the victims In front of the watching crowd, a naked & vulnerable person in agony on a cross would be perfect material for a hostile crowd to excercise the worst insults & mockery.
Alternatively with a mass crucifixion such as what Alexander did at Tyre it seemed unnecessary to use the victims as a deterrent, it was just mass killing that was in order, so I imagine everyone was roped up on crosses dressed as they were to starve to death.
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Bret Devereaux quotes a couple of studies of pre-spinning-wheel textile production, and cites figures of ca. 100 person-hours required to produce one square yard (8300 cm^2) of cloth. Given all that labor input, it seems unlikely that Roman executioners would've left that valuable cloth to go to waste. That's in accordance with the Gospels, which report that the executioners divided up Jesus's clothing, and gambled for the big prize piece.

Even after the clothing industry had been largely mechanized, the Nazis made many of their victims strip, and kept the clothing for use or resale. It would've been more efficient to kill their victims as they were, rather than add the extra step of making them undress; so the value of the clothing thus obtained was apparently deemed sufficient to justify the delay in the killing process.

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frost said:
That's in accordance with the Gospels, which report that the executioners divided up Jesus's clothing, and gambled for the big prize piece.
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There are also a contemporary illustrations. The Alexemanos graffito appears to show the victim from behind, with his buttocks exposed. The Puteoli graffito shows a naked man who has been flogged or beaten from his shoulders down to his thighs. Some interpret this as flaying, but I don't think there's anything to corroborate that interpretation. I also doubt extreme injury was inflicted prior to the crucifixion itself, as the victim had to walk to the place of execution and their clothing was still nice enough to hold value when they got there. Also, Jesus was dressed in purple robes when they mocked him, which would have been very expensive--you wouldn't toss a purple robe over suppurating wounds. This implies beatings that resulted in welts and bruises rather than the catastrophic tearing-away of flesh.

And as all fans of Titian and Thomas Harris know, recreational flayings are conducted with the victim inverted. The Wikipedia article has many striking depictions of the the beginning of Marsyas's end. Like Harris's famous psychiatrist, I will draw your attention to Pan. There's always someone eager to pitch in whenever an atrocity is happening.

Biblical Views: Images of Crucifixion: Fresh Evidence - The BAS Library

The Easter season is a time of year when Christians reflect on the death, burial, resurrection and post-mortem appearances of Jesus. Good Friday, as it is called, focuses specifically on the death of Jesus, which in my view likely transpired during the Passover season in April 30 A.D. Much of...
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xinlonx said:
For scourging, what is your favorite position?

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Hmm.. kneeling is hard to do, here is some more "kneeling position", in preparation for torture.
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Scourging is meant to be a form of torture and nothing more. The condemned people have already told their captors all they know. Whipping them was meant only to inflict pain and humiliate them. One doubts they would have been given anything to protect their most private parts...
 
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