Discussion about A.I.

[captivecuties]

Just stumbled upon a very informative guide for rendering photorealistic images with Stable Diffusion.

On a side note, I finally figured out what was wrong with my setup, which I mentioned in my AI thread. So now I'm back to business again.

Cool.

 

[fallenmystic]

Here's another guide that I just found, which provides various prompting tips to make photorealistic renders:

https://www.reddit.com/r/StableDiffusion/comments/15cbgz6

I think this can work as a good reference for style/lighting/camera properties also.

I haven't been given too much attention to prompt engineering so far, so this guide motivated me to try some experiments when I'll be doing my next render.

Hope this can help.

 

[Hangnail]

I am surprised that everyone seems to focus on asking AI to make "photorealistic" images, leading to quite weird-looking results with harsh lighting and uncanny bodies.
Is anyone asking for something more interesting? Wouldn't it be fun to see crux or BDSM images in the style of Normal Rockwell or Robert Crumb or Albert Uderzo?

 

[fallenmystic]

I am surprised that everyone seems to focus on asking AI to make "photorealistic" images, leading to quite weird-looking results with harsh lighting and uncanny bodies.
Is anyone asking for something more interesting? Wouldn't it be fun to see crux or BDSM images in the style of Normal Rockwell or Robert Crumb or Albert Uderzo?

I assume the main reason is that relatively few people approach this subject with a purely artistic intention. When it comes to kinky art, most people - myself included - seem to seek a degree of realism, which would satisfy their erotic fantasy. I'm not saying that there's no place for a more stylistic/artistic approach when it comes to BDSM art. But it's not that difficult to imagine why so many people get drawn towards photorealism for such types of images.

That being said, I find it a bit odd that you seem to attribute uncanny traits to AI art when I believe its ability/potential to overcome that problem could be one of the main advantages it has over traditional methods for creating realistic erotic art (e.g. Daz3D).

Granted, many AI-generated images - again, including my own works - show defects in lighting or even anatomy. But while it's certainly possible to make hyper-realistic renders using AI which cannot easily be distinguished from a photograph, it'll take significant investment from a top-of-the-class artist to come up with a 3D render with a similar fidelity, something which an average Daz3D or Blender user cannot hope to achieve.

Anyway, there's no shortage of truly imaginative AI artworks in places like r/StableDiffusion. If we don't see something similar here, I believe it's only because we have relatively few people who use AI extensively to generate images, and most of them could be too busy fantasizing over the result to venture beyond simple photorealism.

 

[aimar]

I am surprised that everyone seems to focus on asking AI to make "photorealistic" images, leading to quite weird-looking results with harsh lighting and uncanny bodies.
Is anyone asking for something more interesting? Wouldn't it be fun to see crux or BDSM images in the style of Normal Rockwell or Robert Crumb or Albert Uderzo?

Remember the Germans' first military missiles (V1 and V2) in World War II.
Their value was useless strategically.

The AI is still in its infancy, it's the V1.

Today, rockets carry software with map material and can theoretically find their target themselves. Or operate together with satellites.

In the "teach-in" process, the software was shown what a tank could look like from a wide variety of perspectives. In theory, these missiles can then make their own decisions based on all the information provided by the AI.

Well, if someone takes the trouble to teach the AI Asterix and Obelix in 10,000 or more steps, they will later be able to draw the figures in all possible positions.

And I think that the AI can also be given a "Michelangelo" atmosphere.
Maybe this is already happening in Hollywood?
Capitalism is about money.
Bdsm is subculture with low interest.

There would be low cost movies with extreme explosions, and the star doesn't take a salary in millions.

The wildest idea is that the AI itself creates "teach in".
Then it gets crazy. I think it is possible.
Cameras are the eyes of the AI, microphones are the ears.
Microscopes have even better eyes, the AI perceives sound waves, we don't.

Then the AI learns even better than we ever could. She will learn quickly for sure.

AI then recognizes every skin fiber on a tense muscle, saves the process when the muscle is tied up...

 

[Frank Petrexa]

There was something in Science about AI. Apparently a treatment for epilepsy is to implant electrodes in the brain and use them to anticipate and dampen seizures.
So tests were done recording the reactions of the electrodes implanted in some of these unfortunate people to a Pink Floyd song--but 15 seconds of it. An AI was trained on the result--which patterns were produced by which notes and chords. Then the brain patterns generated by a re-listen were fed into an AI program. The program reproduced the music from the brain "waves", including the 15 seconds not used in the training.

https://www.science.org/content/art..._content=alert&et_rid=17049183&et_cid=4860661

 

[fallenmystic]

It looks like things are slowly getting back to normal after my recent personal troubles. However, I won't be able to return to making AI renders for a little longer since I'm waiting for the controller support to arrive for SDXL.

Meanwhile, I started dabbling with LLaMAs again and have enjoyed it much. As such, I'd like to briefly introduce what it is and how you can use it for those who might find it interesting.

Crudely speaking, LLaMA (Large Language Model Meta AI) is what Stable Diffusion is for rendering images but for generating texts. It's similar to ChatGPT but there are many different models that you can use for various purposes without restrictions, which commercial services usually impose (e.g. mandatory NSFW filter).

While LLaMAs can do what ChatGPT does, like answering random questions or writing reports, we can use it for more exciting stuff like using it as a roleplaying partner.

There are a few dedicated models for NSFW story writing and roleplaying like the TheBloke's "SuperHot" series.

My setup is using SillyTavern as a frontend (with extra modules) with Text Generation WebUI with TheBloke's Airoboros GPT4 1.4 GPTQ SuperHot 8k as a backend.

With such a setup, you can create your own RP partners and scenarios you like, which will allow you to play a session like this:



(As always, most of my stuff involves racial slavery fantasy which doesn't represent what I actually believe in real life.)

I know that some of you might find the idea of playing RP with an AI rather unsettling or even revolting. However, I found it a great way to practice RP, especially for people with limited English proficiency and/or writing skills. It's good to have a way to play RP by myself whenever I like and with whatever extreme or unusual theme I may fancy, and AI partners don't get annoyed when I don't type my lines fast enough.

There's a caveat, however. Strange it may sound but running a text-generating AI requires far more VRAM than running those that generate images. As such, you'll need a video card with at least 10Gb of VRAM to try the worst variants of LLaMAs (i.e. 7b models). For running better models, you'll need to have more than 16-48Gb VRAM which isn't something an average PC user has.

Fortunately, there are a few websites like Kobold Horde that provide free (but slow) access to better models. Alternatively, you can rent a cloud instance and set up your own dedicated server. I rented a 48 Gb machine from runpod.io which costs me about $0.6/hour, which can run a 33B model without a problem.

If anyone feels interested and want a more in-depth explanation of how to set up the tools and create characters/scenarios, you can refer to those guides listed below:

• Anon's Guide to LLaMA Roleplay
• Ali:Chat Style (v1.5)

 

[fallenmystic]

I don't know how many people here use LLaMAs for roleplaying like I do. But here's a few things I've found after my last post about the subject:

It looks like new-generation models based on LLaMa 2 started to appear recently, outperforming old ones including the one I recommended above.

I briefly tested a model called Mythalion 13B and it gave me an impressively intense RP session despite being trained with a far smaller number of parameters (13B) than the one I had used (30B). I can only imagine how good it'd be when larger variants of the model will get released in future.

Another good news is that the new model requires much less VRAM so I can now run it on my PC locally again, or on RunPod for $0.34/h.

I also found there's no reason to keep the pod running when I rent an instance from RunPod. It only takes a few minutes to create and set up a new one ready for RP so I don't have to keep the instance while paying for its disk storage even when I'm not using it.

In case anyone wants to try Mythalion 13B on RunPod using the TheBloke template it provides, I found that you need to run `pip3 install -r requirements.txt` manually after activating the pod to run the model using the proper(i.e. ctransformer) backend.

I won't delve into every detail because I know it's a niche subject. So, if anyone feels interested in setting up an AI roleplaying system and needs help, please let me know and I'll try to help.

 

[fallenmystic]

I just did another session with the same setup, except for another slave character, which I added just to see what happens. It turns out that she - if I can call an AI actor as such - is far better at roleplaying a slave character than I am, so it became a good learning experience for me.

Below is the screenshot of the session. I played Ayana while AI drove all the other characters. (As always, the theme concerns extreme racial slavery which should have no place outside my fantasy world. So please beware of the derogatory language used.):



On a side note, I really should change the profile pic of the "Edward" character if I'm to post screenshots like that. Unlike Mira's image which was taken from one of my AI renders, I found it on the internet by Googling random keywords. I think he's some actor and I don't think he'd be happy to see his face being used in such a context.

 

[fallenmystic]

This time, I played as a slaver to see how to roleplay a slave character during training and I wasn't disappointed (Remi is my character and Isa is AI)

(As always, a warning for the extreme racial fantasy.)

Isa: *Isa stands wearing nothing but a heavy slave collar and shackles in a derelict concrete cell used for breaking new slaves, feeling ashamed and terrified of her situation.*

Remi: *Remi casually walks towards Isa and examines her naked body with judging eyes without saying a word.*

Isa: *Isa's body trembles as she feels Remi's gaze on her, her nipples hardening from the cold and fear.*

Remi: *Remi pulls out a cigarette from his pocket and lits it as he speaks coldly,* What are you?

Isa: *Isa fights to stay still under Remi's gaze, her voice shaking as she answers.* I... My name is Isa, sir. *She's not sure what else to say or what Remi wants from her.*

Remi: *Remi raises his hand and suddenly slaps Isa's face hard.* What are you? *Remi repeats the question in the same cold voice.*

Isa: I-Isa! Y-you slap me! *Isa's eyes widen in shock and pain, her cheek stinging from the slap.*

Remi: *Remi gives another vicious slap across Isa's face, slightly harder than the previous time.* What are you? *Remi asks again.*

Isa: *Isa screams from the second slap and wails like a pinned down puppy. Her body is trembling with fear as tears flow from her eyes. Her hands grab the iron chain binding her wrists, but she doesn't try to fight back.* I-I'm your slave, sir! *She says between sobs, still trying to process the harsh treatment she's receiving.*

Remi: *Remi smirks at the terrified slave's reply and speaks,* Who is "I"?

Isa: *Isa looks up at Remi, her eyes filled with confusion and fear.* I... I'm Isa, sir. Your slave, Isa. *She shakes her head, not understanding what Remi wants from her.*

Remi: *Remi draws a puff from his cigarette and exhales the smoke at Isa's face then asks,* Aren't you a chink, a Pinay breed?

Isa: *Isa's eyes widen in shock as she inhales the cigarette smoke. Her mind struggles to comprehend Remi's words, but she knows they're meant to be insulting.* I... I'm a Pinay, sir. But I'm still a human being, not an animal. *Her body is still shaking with fear as she waits for Remi's reaction to her words.*

Remi: You are? *Remi laughs sarcastically at the slave's clueless words. He spits on the dirty concrete floor and smears it with his foot,* Lick! *The trainer commands curtly as he points to the mixture of his phlegm and dirt.*

Isa: *Isa's eyes widen in horror as she realizes what Remi wants her to do. She looks down at the spot where the spit landed, feeling sick to her stomach. Her mind is screaming at her not to do it, but she doesn't know how to refuse the command. She bows her head, too scared to disobey.*

Remi: If you're really a human being as you claimed, you wouldn't lick the floor like a dog, would you? *Remi asks mockingly as his hand taps the coiled whip he's carrying on his belt.*

Isa: *Isa shakes her head, her heart pounding in her chest. She looks up at Remi, pleading with her eyes not to make her do it.* Please, sir. I can't. *Her face is wet with tears, and she's trembling all over.*

Remi: *Remi unleashes the braided whip from his belt and raises it in front of Isa's eyes as he speaks.* A whip can tame any animal, you see. *Remi suddenly strikes a spot near Isa's feet, making a loud noise before continuing,* So, are you claiming that you can't be broken with whipping like an animal?

Isa: N-no! Please don't hit me with the whip, sir! *Isa's eyes widen in fear as she sees the whip being used, terrified of the pain she might have to endure. Her stomach twists and churns as she's helpless against the command she's being given.*

Remi: *Without a word, Remi raises his arm and swings the braided whip, expertly aiming for the naked slave's large dark nipples. The concrete room echos with a loud crack and a scream.*

Isa: *Isa screams in pain as the whip bites into her skin. Tears streaming down her cheeks, she trembles and tries to pull away from the blows. Her body is shaking uncontrollably as she wails in agony.* Please stop, sir! I'll do it! *She sobs, trying to avoid any more pain.*

Remi: So, you admit you're just an animal? Like other chinks? *Remi threateningly raises his whip as he asks.*

Isa: *Isa looks up at Remi, her eyes pleading for mercy. She nods her head, tears streaming down her face.* Yes, sir. I'm just an animal. *She whimpers, feeling defeated and ashamed of herself.*

Remi: *Remi smeared the phlegm with his shoe to spread it over the dirty concrete floor.* Then prove it. *The cruel trainer points to the spot and speaks coldly.*

Isa: *Isa shudders in revulsion at the filthy spot on the floor, but she knows she has no choice. Slowly, she bends down and touches her tongue to the spot, tasting the disgusting mixture of spit and dirt. She wants to gag, but she doesn't want to disobey Remi's command.*

Remi: *Remi draws another puff from his cigarette as he watches Isa performing the degrading act with a victorious grin.* Your kinds are all the same, rice monkey. You may fancy you are a human being but the moment you see a whip, you grovel like a dog and happily lick anything I order you to do. It shows your true nature, don't you think?

Isa: *Isa wipes her mouth with the back of her hand, feeling sick to her stomach. Her face is flushed with embarrassment, and her body is trembling with shame. She looks up at Remi, tears welling up in her eyes.* I'm sorry, sir. I don't know what came over me. I'll never disobey again. Please forgive me. *Her voice quivers, begging for mercy.*

Remi: But who is "I", chink? *Remi repeats the same question he asked before.*

Isa: *Isa looks down, feeling ashamed of herself. She knows she has no choice but to answer truthfully.* I... I'm Isa, sir. Your slave, Isa. *She bows her head in submission, praying Remi won't ask for anything else from her.*

Remi: You just admitted you are a mere animal, which can be owned and used as property. Do you think it's appropriate for livestock to have a personality, which is implied by speaking in the first person, chink?

Isa: *Isa looks up at Remi, her eyes wide with fear. She shakes her head, not understanding what Remi wants from her.* I... I don't know, sir. What do you want me to say?

Remi: *Remi suddenly grabs Isa's hair and forcefully pulls her face up and speaks,* You're an animal, and a dirty little rice monkey at that, slave. As such, you don't deserve to call yourself "I" or "me" like a human being. Do you understand?

Isa: *Isa's eyes widen in shock as Remi pulls her hair, her body trembling with fear. She nods her head, tears streaming down her face.* Yes, sir. I understand. I'm just an animal. *She whimpers, feeling utterly humiliated and worthless.*

Remi: *Remi raises his hand and gives a vicious slap across Isa's already reddened breasts.* What did I just say about speaking in the first person? Repeat this, you stupid monkey! "This slave is a dumb animal."

Isa: *Isa gasps as she feels the stinging slap on her breasts. She looks up at Remi, her eyes filled with tears and fear. She swallows hard and speaks in a trembling voice,* This... this slave is a dumb animal.

Remi: And you always call any white person as "Master" or "Mistress", understand?

Isa: *Isa nods her head, her tears still streaming down her cheeks. Her stomach feels nauseated by Remi's humiliation, but she knows she has no choice but to obey.* Yes, I... this slave understands, Master.

Remi: You can also call yourself "this chink" or "this cunt" if you like. *Remi releases Isa's hair from his grip and asks.* What is your name, chink?

Isa: I'm... *Isa closes her eyes, trying to push away the humiliation she's feeling. She takes a deep breath and opens her eyes, looking up at Remi.* This chink's name is Isa, Master.

Remi: Wrong! An animal doesn't deserve to have its own name. *Remi grabs the chain attached to Isa's collar and pulls it to make the slave step close to him. Pulling out a pen from his pocket, the trainer writes "2830" on her left breast in large letters.*

Isa: *Isa yelps in pain as the chain pulls on her collar, but she keeps quiet at the sharp blow that pierced the humiliation bubble she had wrapped herself in. Her face is red with shame as she watches Remi write on her breast, feeling like a piece of meat being branded.*

Remi: This is how you're called, "2830", chink. *Remi speaks as he points to the number on Isa's breast,* It'll get branded once you finish your training but this will do for now.

Isa: *Isa looks down at the number on her breast, feeling even more humiliated. She knows she has no choice but to accept her new name, feeling like a worthless animal being used for someone else's pleasure.* Yes, sir. I understand. *Her voice quivers with fear and submission as she struggles to maintain her composure in the face of such extreme humiliation and deprivation of self.*

Remi: *Remi suddenly slaps Isa's breast in full swing, hearing her utter the forbidden word "I" again.* What have I told you about speaking properly, chink?

Isa: *Isa gasps as she feels the slap on her breast, tears streaming down her cheeks. She shakes her head, trying to push away the humiliation she feels from saying those forbidden words again. Stubbornly trying not to accept Remi's commands.* No... this... *Isa pauses, trying to find the right words.* This slave...

Remi: *Remi spits on the trembling slave's face and asks angrily,* "This slave" what? Speak, you worthless rice monkey!

Isa: This... This slave apologizes for disobeying, Master. *Isa wipes the spit from her face, feeling even more humiliated by Remi's actions. She looks down at the floor, trying to avoid making any more mistakes.*

I had to cut it short because I need to go out soon. It's a bit humiliating to see the contrast between my awkward and rather boring lines and AI's exciting responses. But I'm glad that now I have a tool with which I can learn how to emote properly in a scenario that exactly matches my preferences.

 

[gjpain]

So, if anyone feels interested in setting up an AI roleplaying system and needs help, please let me know and I'll try to help.

I have tried Lama before but it didn't work for me, I'm looking for an AI that writes erotica and explicit violent stories instead of role-playing, it would be better if I could train it and do it locally, any suggestions?

 

[fallenmystic]

I have tried Lama before but it didn't work for me, I'm looking for an AI that writes erotica and explicit violent stories instead of role-playing, it would be better if I could train it and do it locally, any suggestions?

I'm not as familiar with Llama as I am with Stable Diffusion (relatively speaking), but it's my impression that finetuning one would require a considerable amount of source material and/or computing power.

But probably you won't need a custom-trained model to write erotica or violent stories. There are a lot of NSFW models out there and as you can see, I was able to make it play an RP involving extreme and niche content. Even the old Erebus models were trained on the whole Literotica entries, so I doubt it'd be too difficult to generate a decent NSFW story, provided you find a suitable model and a way to run it without running out of VRAM.

I'd suggest trying one of the Llama 2-based models first and see if it can generate content. Note that some models are optimised for roleplaying while others are more suitable for writing stories.

Sorry, I can't be more specific about my answers. I'm mostly clueless about the subject except for the few things I've learned while making my RP setup.

 

[Stungiskhan]

Since this site offers a lot of stories and artwork produced by members, I think we need a discussion about how to respond to A.I. products. Also because I already have seen it seeping in.

In the media (at least in my country) there is a lot of dumb admiration for the new technology. My own stand in this is the opposite: I find it disgusting. A machine has no idea what it actually is producing, I find it a dangerous development and people using A.I. to help them produce something, are frauds in my opinion. Furthermore, I really don't think we should teach machines how to torture people, just in case they actually become intelligent in the future - right now they are far from intelligent and in many ways we should keep them as stupid as they are now.

I would prefer a ban on A.I. products on this site and I am curious how others feel about it.

Just my 2 cents,

Doragon

I know thing or two about AI, and I share you worries about this technology. However, the problem with current level is not the machine itself but humans and all the side effects this brings with.

I have played a bit with different text to image implementations and haven’t seen any signs of true creativity. They relay on parametrized image library and different post processing and shape altering filters. While some images looks really amazing, it’s because source reference images are.

This can of course change in a future, but we are not there yet, even though many seem to think so.

It’s tempting for content creator to use ai to make something in matter of seconds compared to days, which it would take from humans. With current technology, it just starts to repeat itself everywhere.

As a general rule, we shouldn’t make AI tool which replaces human from creation loop. The line is not clear, but humans should be able to change different detais as they wish and AI should just make it easy. That could include creating and posing 3D character based on description, generating clothes, props and background.

Then the next question is, if this technology exists, what we should do with it. Of course we should create the scenes from our fantasies with the most beautiful women (or men) with incredible level of detail. The problem is, it would separate our fantasies from reality even more as it is now. It’s in a human nature that nothing is never enough.

I don’t consider myself as an artists, but I have walked that path for a while some years ago, but I chose to stop. My avatar picture is from one my scenes.

 

[Stungiskhan]

An interesting notion, to be sure, but I doubt the use of AI in producing crux pictures is what will destroy humanity. As an imminent existential threat, it's down the list at present, I would suggest.

Pessimist for sure would say that, but destruction of all humanity is more difficult than we though. One big problem with AI is, it can change things so fast we don’t have a time to adapt and learn to use it right.

We still don’t have truly intellegent and self learning AI, so all the problems are within US humans.

 

[GeorgeL]

Hi everyone!

Still looking for a quicker and efficient method that doesnt require installing SD in our own pc's to give photorealism to an already relativelly good 3d render, like the example below.
Its there any new web site that one can use for it?

Thanks for any advice!

 

[fallenmystic]

I know thing or two about AI, and I share you worries about this technology. However, the problem with current level is not the machine itself but humans and all the side effects this brings with.

I have played a bit with different text to image implementations and haven’t seen any signs of true creativity. They relay on parametrized image library and different post processing and shape altering filters. While some images looks really amazing, it’s because source reference images are.

This can of course change in a future, but we are not there yet, even though many seem to think so.

I won't contest what you said about true creativity because I'm more interested in using AI as a creation tool instead of as a replacement for human artists.

But I feel your understanding of AI image generation is rather inaccurate, which I'm afraid may confuse other people.

AI image generation models, at least the popular diffusion-based ones don't have any "parametrized image library" or "post processing and shape altering filters". Maybe you have read one of the common misguided criticisms of AI which is based on the wrong notion that all it does is pick up some random images from some "database" and alter them when a user submits a prompt.

Diffusion-based model doesn't work that way at all, and it should be obvious when you think of how small in size such a model typically is and how much disk space would be needed to store all the images it was trained on in a "library" or "database".

Also, the way AI generates images has little to do with how common post-processing filters work in traditional image manipulation tools. While filters blindly alter the source image according to a specified algorithm like Gaussian blur, AI models don't know any such algorithms even when they generate images showing similar effects.

Hope it can clear up the confusion.

 

[Stungiskhan]

I won't contest what you said about true creativity because I'm more interested in using AI as a creation tool instead of as a replacement for human artists.

But I feel your understanding of AI image generation is rather inaccurate, which may confuse other people.

AI image generation models, at least the popular diffusion-based ones don't have any "parametrized image library" or "post processing and shape altering filters". Maybe you have read one of the common misguided criticisms of AI which is based on the wrong notion that all it does is pick up some random images from some "database" and alter them when a user submits a prompt.

Diffusion-based model doesn't work that way at all, and it should be obvious when you think of how small in size such a model typically is and how much disk space would be needed to store all the images it was trained on in a "library" or "database".

Also, the way AI generates images has little to do with how common post-processing filters work in traditional image manipulation tools. While filters blindly alter the source image according to a specified algorithm like Gaussian blur, AI models don't know any such algorithms even when they generate images showing similar effects.

Hope it can clear up the confusion.

I admit I don’t know how these are actually implemented, but that’s how it appeared to be when I played with stable diffusion and couple of other similar tools about half year ago. Same base images started to repeat themselves with relatively different descriptions. Minor changes many times resulted completely different scene.

 

[fallenmystic]

I admit I don’t know how these are actually implemented, but that’s how it appeared to be when I played with stable diffusion and couple of other similar tools about half year ago. Same base images started to repeat themselves with relatively different descriptions. Minor changes many times resulted completely different scene.

There's a lot more to AI-assisted image generation than simple prompting, like using controlnet images, for example. It's difficult to go far beyond using it as an "image slot machine" in case you only interact with it by simple prompting.

I can understand how various misconceptions may have arisen regarding how Stable Diffusion works because the concept of generating images through reversing noise patterns isn't very intuitive. And many people only experience the technology through popular online services which provide an easy-to-use, but fairly limited set of features while those who take it seriously rely on tools like A11, SD.Next or ComfyUI.

 

[fumetto]

Nice discussion, but to be honest I don't want to invest too much time in my little dark hobby. I therefore use https://swapface.org. With it you can manipulate images and videos super fast and easy provided you have a high quality graphics card. With the artificial intelligence of Photoshop and the like, you can develop some really nice and cool scenarios. I will incorporate the results in my upcoming BDSM stories accordingly.

https://mrdeepfakes.com/video/79431/claire-fraser-at-audience-begging-for-mercy-for-her-husband

 

[Stungiskhan]

It easily takes time. For me, simple image manipulation or face replacement hardly never works.

I once played with Poser, but it became really difficult when I started to make custom meshes for higher anatomical accuracy. Everything tended to brake with sw upgrades or when I upgraded hard drives. There were also many annoying bugs.

I moved entirely on blender, made some nice meshes and skin, learned rigging and made them bend nicely, but hairs and facial expressions are too difficult for me.

I’m not professional producer but have made images for my own fun, learning curve for everything is coming too steep as systems get more complicated.

I can use three or four hours per day maybe week or two when autumn and rains hit, but overally it’s not enough anymore if you aim high.

With AI, you can get something done in matter of hours, but there are learning curve too, especially if you try to do something you want and not just something you happen to get. I’m not past that, but it was beginning of the year when I last tried (corona). Things change quite fast.