I don't think that the binding is the problem. Most of us played cowboy and indians as children, where someone gets bound to the torture stack, without sexual conotation. The point is that the cross can be seen as caricature of a male, so the crucifixion is a male male sex act and secondly the use of cornu and sometimes rape before crucifixion
I feel the same way- not gay or bi but many aspects are a turn on. Power exchange, loss of control, etc.. In my personal life I always had to be the dominant. My submissive female partner could not reverse roles. It was a turn off for her to have me in a submissive position so we didn't do it.I'm not gay or bi, nor do I think that the crucifixion got something to do with sexual orientation.
The Roman crucifixion gives me an exciting kick. I can imagine to be a spectator, an executioner, or a victim.
The fact that as soon as a person was sentenced to the cross and has lost all control, to me is a sensation.
I enjoy to watch when the victims carry the crossbeam, when they get crucified and of course when the Titulus is attached. I enjoy to see all these different emotions that the victims have to go through.
Also do I enjoy the imagination to look down my own destroyed body in full horror, to helplessly witness how people that I've never seen before place my feet for the nailing. For me also exciting and horryfying when I'm forced to finally experience one of these strangers climbing up along my naked body to attach the Titulus.
If it's male or female victims, or if they look like models or not is not that important to me.
Sure, when the crucified start to struggle on their crosses, aspects change.
As a victim I'd have to look quite often at my dangling, maybe erected cock, women will have to look down at their tits with the hard nipples.
On the other side the spectators can make jokes about the imperfect bodies and insult the condemned.
Actually a win win situation.....
No pegging at this time..
so there is room to improve-
This could possibly apply, of course, for bondage play with real people. Which raises another question : are not only the victims but also the male on male doms during a crucifixion play gay/bi? It all depends on the arrangements and agreements made by the participants of the play, and their sexual preferences.
I can largely agree with this. In fact, consensual bondage/crux play can be related to gayish acts and the participants as gay/bi, IF these are the boundaries they would have set for themselves. But the reverse is not true to my opinion. Our fantasy kink is not necessarily related and restricted to gay/bi preferences. That's a too conservative vision. Our fantasy goes wider than that, and is a 'sexual preference' on its own, beside straight, bi or gay. That's the way I experience it.
We can call it united, then whatever gay, bi, heterosexual at the end all are fucked the same way on the cross....
Yes
Right! Labels must be avoided in this fantasy.
We can not completely ignore them, the humiliation aspect of a male(!) nude victim is to depict him as "gay" in modern, well not so, society. In the case, not the gay aspects, but the helplessness of someone used sexually as female, was the key aspect. As modern and non-gayphobic peoples, we knbow that gay/and so one is used to devide the people to rule over them (divide et impera). So to prevent that we do not distinguish the living person as gay or heterosexual, but we know the difference and its role in society. As I mentionend many times, that what passive anal sex concerns (not all gay couples do that by the way), I recommend it for all persons, also heterosexual males, as in my cases it improves my pooping abilities, because it trained my sphincter muscle. However I do it not as often as probably people with a reasonable sex live. Just look at
Point is : there is a difference between putting a (narrowing) label on a person with a kink, and the perceptions in the kink's fantasy.
I would try to prevent the labels, because you can use them for separation. So you don't have not the distinction between gay and heterosexual, but now you have the distinction between crucificationphil and crucifixionphob, short cruciphil and cruciphob. I even do not have it in my stories, in one where every man is crucified (non-lethal) before his mariage, to open him up and to experience the feeling of power transfer.
A hint, @ServileCaesar , since you are new here : one is never 'late' to join the discussion in a thread, or revive it.I know I'm a little late, but as a loincloth lover and heteroflexible myself I strongly agree!
And you can never be to late to get fucked in the ass. The loincloth fetish I found very interesting, not that I am into it, but it is interesting. You may lookup also the fundoshi thread which also @Loinclothslave is participating.I know I'm a little late, but as a loincloth lover and heteroflexible myself I strongly agree!
I can't say I completely disagree. It might be the same for me.
