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SirMGBZ
Governor
I can almost hear her saying, "Oy vey!" Don't ask me why, that's just what I heard when I looked. ;-)
priyajizzy
Condemned
Oh my god, this is so brutal
Handcuffed to the cell and having her breasts exposed, just looking at her face when the knitted ropes are placed on her boobs, its clear that her heart
would be racing with fear . Would love someone from the bottom of my heart
if they could explain why she is getting so brutally tortured and what is her crime ?
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petelobo
Governor
Perhaps it could be you. Imagine that you have gotten yourself into such a situation...and then you were tested to your limits--and beyond. Here's the script, so you can know the whole story--including the ending (or beginning).Oh my god, this is so brutal
Handcuffed to the cell and having her breasts exposed, just looking at her face when the knitted ropes are placed on her boobs, its clear that her heart
Would love someone from the bottom of my heart
SirMGBZ
Governor
That is so awesome! It gives me a BTS feeling that exceeds anything you could show on video,
petelobo
Governor
The video is a completely different experience. I can't script the breast bounce...
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SirMGBZ
Governor
I am talking about a BTS video, not the actual video.
petelobo
Governor
I'm guessing BTS stands for Behind the Scenes? All Cruel World customs provide their sponsors the raw video feeds from the 3-4 cameras used, so I have those, but my tendency is to cap the best images from them and just keep the final edited version. Too much space for keeping all the feeds, since they require a lot of FF'ing to get the good stuff. I have hundreds of caps for most of my customs.I am talking about a BTS video, not the actual video.
Thomas Chaser
Tribune
I keep it all, in case I want to go back and re-cut something from the raw footage, like a "Best of..." or something, starting with the original stuff prior to "Camera! Auto!".
petelobo
Governor
I believe this one, with Katie Dee and Ms. Wahlberg (W), will be shot tomorrow or Tuesday. Because of the studio space and greater complexity of three people in most of the shots, there tends to be a lot more wasted video on the two-girl scripts (Alex or one of the girls is in the way). I tried to make this one more about 1:1 scenes, with only the final electro shot around a corner (which I've seen work well in previous efforts). Hoping it will be good. This will be my first try with Wahlberg, so I've looked at a few of her prior performances. She's definitely beautiful, but she tends--like many of the younger actresses--to be a bit wooden. I've sent her some notes, hoping she won't be irritated by them. Working with Katie sets the bar fairly high in terms of acting, so I'm hoping for the best.
"I once asked Katie how she achieved her consistently revelatory performances. She said she allowed herself to believe that these things were really happening to her. She allowed herself to react without rules about how you "should" move when you are helpless and being tortured. She IS helpless and being tortured. She knows no more how she will respond than a person really being tortured. Of course, the "real" Katie is there, just beneath the surface, so if a whiplash to the pussy is TOO real, she will tell Alex right away. There may be a sharp word from her, and a slight pause from him, but it seems so natural that it's not uncommon that the editor doesn't recognize it and includes it in the final video. In Innocent Prisoner 2, he is whipping her pussy in a 3-point suspension, and he lays the flogger directly onto her spread lips. I can see that it really hurt her, but he moves out onto the thighs for a few blows before nailing her again. She yells at him. I don't speak Russian, so I don't know what she said, but I know he got the message. Then 3 strokes later he hit her again, and she shut down the action for a few seconds. He didn't hit her there again. That one the editor couldn't miss.
The images below show 1. looks like it is directly on target, but the striking tips are above her pussy; 2. she closes shop for a few seconds and he forces her legs open; 3. he doesn't take the hint and hits her spot on, so she rolls away; 4. She drops her arm and tells him in no uncertain terms; 5. She gets into position again, and his very next blow is right down the middle, but he has bent forward so the actual striking end of the tail is below the pussy, even though the tails themselves are on target.
I can tell within a few seconds of watching an actress whether she has learned some rules of "how to act" in any given situation. She is always watching herself "acting." Katie is not acting. She IS. It takes courage to allow yourself to be that vulnerable - even to feel the terror, pain, and hopelessness in an imaginary situation.
Acting is a special form of singing. W has a lovely stillness, and she made some excellent full-throat screams. So she expresses both ends of the scale, but the middle tones are missing. She is very polite, chatting with Alex even during the action. If she were really in that situation (and not just acting in a video), she would show more of a range of emotions. I would love to hear her begging, pleading, and sometimes crying hopelessly. Maybe angry at what is being done to her, cursing at Alex, screaming, and demanding that he stop. Those would be natural reactions to the situation. I know she would do those things if it really happened to her, and hearing her do it in her performance makes it more real. It's not something to be planned in advance. She must trick herself into believing it is happening to her, and express what comes naturally.
Acting is also a special form of dance. In the video I've seen, W is quite rigid. She acts with her head, but not with her body, and often not even with her face. It's like a dancer who counts her steps during a performance, instead of feeling the rhythm. W gets shocked across her breasts and inside her vagina, but what moves? Her head moves forward and back like a bird pecking at seeds (causing her breasts to bounce slightly), but her body might as well be modeling for a sculptor. There are moments where she breaks that mold a little, but the impression is one of a minor irritant. Compare that with the images of Katie below in a space of perhaps 10 seconds.
A crucial part of the dance is not just body response but also facial expressions In W's performance her face is fairly stoic. If I could only see her face (hard to focus on it when her naked body is so enticing}, I would never guess she was being whipped or shocked by a cruel interrogator. Another secret of acting is breathing. When you are terrified and in pain, you breathe fast and hard--trying to catch your breath. It's automatic. So when you breathe that way in a performance, you convince your brain that you are afraid and in pain.
About Electro torture: Unfortunately, some online "experts" have decided how a person "really" acts when being shocked. A number of Cruel World's models have learned those rules: During electroshock the body goes rigid and the person only makes a kind of choking sound. It is true that when using electrocution to kill a person, high current and voltage will cause this "frozen" and gagging reaction. The current runs through the entire body from the head to the ankles, locking all the muscles in between. In electrotorture, the current is very low, as is the voltage. It causes desperate localized pain to shut down the mind without killing. It does not lock the entire body or make it impossible to make sounds. The electrodes on the pussy lips send a current across the clitoris. The nipples and clitoris feel like there are thousands of biting ants swarming over them. If your hands were free, you would grab the electrodes and pull them off. Since you can't, the natural response is to buck the hips and swing the breasts from side to side to try to try to free yourself from them."
I'm looking forward to seeing the feeds.
"I once asked Katie how she achieved her consistently revelatory performances. She said she allowed herself to believe that these things were really happening to her. She allowed herself to react without rules about how you "should" move when you are helpless and being tortured. She IS helpless and being tortured. She knows no more how she will respond than a person really being tortured. Of course, the "real" Katie is there, just beneath the surface, so if a whiplash to the pussy is TOO real, she will tell Alex right away. There may be a sharp word from her, and a slight pause from him, but it seems so natural that it's not uncommon that the editor doesn't recognize it and includes it in the final video. In Innocent Prisoner 2, he is whipping her pussy in a 3-point suspension, and he lays the flogger directly onto her spread lips. I can see that it really hurt her, but he moves out onto the thighs for a few blows before nailing her again. She yells at him. I don't speak Russian, so I don't know what she said, but I know he got the message. Then 3 strokes later he hit her again, and she shut down the action for a few seconds. He didn't hit her there again. That one the editor couldn't miss.
The images below show 1. looks like it is directly on target, but the striking tips are above her pussy; 2. she closes shop for a few seconds and he forces her legs open; 3. he doesn't take the hint and hits her spot on, so she rolls away; 4. She drops her arm and tells him in no uncertain terms; 5. She gets into position again, and his very next blow is right down the middle, but he has bent forward so the actual striking end of the tail is below the pussy, even though the tails themselves are on target.
I can tell within a few seconds of watching an actress whether she has learned some rules of "how to act" in any given situation. She is always watching herself "acting." Katie is not acting. She IS. It takes courage to allow yourself to be that vulnerable - even to feel the terror, pain, and hopelessness in an imaginary situation.
Acting is a special form of singing. W has a lovely stillness, and she made some excellent full-throat screams. So she expresses both ends of the scale, but the middle tones are missing. She is very polite, chatting with Alex even during the action. If she were really in that situation (and not just acting in a video), she would show more of a range of emotions. I would love to hear her begging, pleading, and sometimes crying hopelessly. Maybe angry at what is being done to her, cursing at Alex, screaming, and demanding that he stop. Those would be natural reactions to the situation. I know she would do those things if it really happened to her, and hearing her do it in her performance makes it more real. It's not something to be planned in advance. She must trick herself into believing it is happening to her, and express what comes naturally.
Acting is also a special form of dance. In the video I've seen, W is quite rigid. She acts with her head, but not with her body, and often not even with her face. It's like a dancer who counts her steps during a performance, instead of feeling the rhythm. W gets shocked across her breasts and inside her vagina, but what moves? Her head moves forward and back like a bird pecking at seeds (causing her breasts to bounce slightly), but her body might as well be modeling for a sculptor. There are moments where she breaks that mold a little, but the impression is one of a minor irritant. Compare that with the images of Katie below in a space of perhaps 10 seconds.
A crucial part of the dance is not just body response but also facial expressions In W's performance her face is fairly stoic. If I could only see her face (hard to focus on it when her naked body is so enticing}, I would never guess she was being whipped or shocked by a cruel interrogator. Another secret of acting is breathing. When you are terrified and in pain, you breathe fast and hard--trying to catch your breath. It's automatic. So when you breathe that way in a performance, you convince your brain that you are afraid and in pain.
About Electro torture: Unfortunately, some online "experts" have decided how a person "really" acts when being shocked. A number of Cruel World's models have learned those rules: During electroshock the body goes rigid and the person only makes a kind of choking sound. It is true that when using electrocution to kill a person, high current and voltage will cause this "frozen" and gagging reaction. The current runs through the entire body from the head to the ankles, locking all the muscles in between. In electrotorture, the current is very low, as is the voltage. It causes desperate localized pain to shut down the mind without killing. It does not lock the entire body or make it impossible to make sounds. The electrodes on the pussy lips send a current across the clitoris. The nipples and clitoris feel like there are thousands of biting ants swarming over them. If your hands were free, you would grab the electrodes and pull them off. Since you can't, the natural response is to buck the hips and swing the breasts from side to side to try to try to free yourself from them."
I'm looking forward to seeing the feeds.
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petelobo
Governor
You must have a lot more time--and storage--than I do. Sounds like fun.
SirMGBZ
Governor
Yes. Some video production companies shoot some footage where the talent talks “out of character” about the shoot.
Any road, that is pretty neat. Personally, I’d find the space, when you consider that you can get a 20TB drive for about USD 300 or so.
That is so freaking awesome! I was wondering how you both were doing able to post so many screen caps.
rezoo001
Assistant executioner
Alex, all your works are very beautiful) But why don’t you photograph men on the cross? Here’s an interesting scenario for you, a man is hanging on a cross, and next to you you are crucifying a woman, and the woman will suffer for a very long time, and she will ask the man to thrust his penis into her pussy or anus to make her hanging labor easier. Let's try this?
Thomas Chaser
Tribune
When I run out of space, I buy a bigger external hard drive, transfer Cruel World files over to it, and then I have more space for CW and have cleared out space on the other drive for everything else. I do video editing as a hobby on films like these, so if I like a story or an actress, I'll shoot maybe 20 versions of the same thing using the different camera angle from the raw footage, including stills and slideshows. I've also put together BTS videos for this forum for laughs.
Body Donor 41 - Anna Luna interview - subtitled 05072024
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Thomas Chaser
Tribune
The points you raise above are completely valid. I can usually tell when a model is trained or experienced in still photography because of how they hold their body and check the cameras. Anna Luna will look at a camera and check her appearance during a scene. It was distracting at first, so I wrote scripts with her to be her as a victim on a live-feed to an online audience, so that when she checks herself in a camera, it works within the story, as if she were pleading directly to the audience.
Very few of the actors that CW has used or currently uses have acting experience. Adri was one that seemed to either be trained or a natural on stage. Her reactions were subtle for a small screen, and matched the character she was playing perfectly. She's moved on to other projects, and I hope she's landed a gig as a tv actor or a spokesmodel somewhere because she was perfect in the role of the Squalus Labs spokesmodel intern.
For Wahlberg, I play to her strengths: a stoic and brave victim. Minimum screaming. No thrashing around. The victim takes the pain. I focus on how to position her body, and then I let White Rose do the work around her. White Rose has mastered the character of Dr. Squalus perfectly and can run an entire story so long as she has a model to work on. When I bring on a new model for a scripted story, I give instructions to keep the moans and cries to a minimum because so many models do it so poorly. I learned that with Victoria; she looked good in stills but she sounded like a goose when she moaned and cried. My other strategy is to keep the action "real" within a fake story so that there's no acting necessary.
A good example of real acting in a fake story is the Memory Test series. The plot is fake - there is no secret underground lab conducting psychological tests on human volunteers willing to experience corporal punishment. Dr. Squalus is not going to write a white paper to submit to a medical journal with her findings (although unofficially the results were quite striking). However, everything you see on screen is real. The women really are being spanked and really are reacting to that spanking. The fear, the nervousness, and the laughter are all what the actors are feeling in that moment. No acting necessary.
You mentioned dance, and I agree. Selling an effect works if you have both your facial expressions and your body working in harmony. Trained dancers seem to have this ability; actors a bit less so. Fortunately, for the small screen, facial expressions can go a long way to communicating emotion in a scene. Some models can act, but most can't. It's a tricky thing striking that balance.
After testing things in the "Rope or Money" scripts with Anna and Alina, my early scripts required more acting. An evil doctor kidnaps young women to test torture devices and then harvest their organs for sale on the black market (I was inspired by the "Ilsa" films and urban myths). The first actor I brought on was White Rose to play Dyanne Thorn's version of "Ilsa: She-Wolf of the SS" but with less Nazi symbology. She did a very good job on her first outing, so I kept her in the role. I don't know what her day job is, but she'd make a good teacher. Her presentations are good. The second actor I secured was Victoria. She was good to look at and could take the stunts, but the honking drove me crazy. Fortunately, the story idea allowed me to rotate several models through the victim role, so I did. Some where better than others. Anastasia did an amazing job playing the innocent redhead victim. Cry has electrocution down pat; a true artist and actor for that stunt. Adri nailed the role of enthusiastic intern and spokesmodel. I have my favorites and I cast them when they're available. Right now my short list is Anna Luna, Demonica, Cry, and Wahlberg.
As for electrocution, my reference is the electric rat trap videos I found on YouTube, wherein the whole body tenses. So I go with that direction.
One last thing: it's cold and flu season, so be sure to go visit a doctor for your vaccination. You might as well get a full check up while you're there.
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Thomas Chaser
Tribune
Maybe I'm just lucky, but I've shot stories with 3 actors without issue. With my new storyline "The Card Game", I use 4. It's all about placement and how the space is used. Because of the space limitations, I changed Dr. Squalus' use of a whip (which requires a lot of space to swing properly) to a leather paddle (which requires a lot less space and makes a very satisfying smack when it lands).
I hope your effort with Wahlberg is successful. I tell her to keep her acting to a minimum in my stories, because most models tend to overact, and do it poorly. She does a good job in my scripts that way. I'd be interested in your opinion of her work in your film now that you're opening the gates for her to act more.
Also, White Rose had indicated that my script (the final Memory Test with Wahlberg) is being filmed today. Wahlberg is going to be one busy girl!
Picture attached to show spacing of the characters.
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Thomas Chaser
Tribune
Coming soon: The final Memory Test.
I'm posting this to show (1) how to fit 3 characters in the small Execution Room stage, (2) how White Rose uses cameras to address the audience for the "TED Talk" presentation, and (3) this was filmed today, sent to me today, and posted here 5 minutes after I downloaded it so you're getting it fresh! By my count, I've done just over 50 scripts with Cruel World and I've enjoyed every bit of it.
I'm posting this to show (1) how to fit 3 characters in the small Execution Room stage, (2) how White Rose uses cameras to address the audience for the "TED Talk" presentation, and (3) this was filmed today, sent to me today, and posted here 5 minutes after I downloaded it so you're getting it fresh! By my count, I've done just over 50 scripts with Cruel World and I've enjoyed every bit of it.
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Thomas Chaser
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A few more stills from the newest, freshest Dr. Squalus film with Wahlberg taking her final Memory Test. Cropping is mine.
Also, editing is done on the commercial version of the first Card Game film with Anna Luna and Demonica, so expect that soon! The plot: a card game company is testing a new adult game that is to be released for holiday sales. The company hires Squalus Labs to do the product testing and film for corporate review. Things go the way only Dr. Squalus can make a test go. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. The girls certainly did. Who knew a good spanking could be so much fun? It could be the surprise hit of the season!
Side note: I'm already planning on another card game video in January with Wahlberg and Cry, if they agree. Wahlberg earned her way into my next film with her amazing performance in her final Memory Test.
Also, editing is done on the commercial version of the first Card Game film with Anna Luna and Demonica, so expect that soon! The plot: a card game company is testing a new adult game that is to be released for holiday sales. The company hires Squalus Labs to do the product testing and film for corporate review. Things go the way only Dr. Squalus can make a test go. I'm sure you'll enjoy it. The girls certainly did. Who knew a good spanking could be so much fun? It could be the surprise hit of the season!
Side note: I'm already planning on another card game video in January with Wahlberg and Cry, if they agree. Wahlberg earned her way into my next film with her amazing performance in her final Memory Test.
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Hi Thomas, if you post seven images per day in one thread, you will risk losing two of them because the daily limit is five.
Thomas Chaser
Tribune
Ah, thanks. I thought I'd spaced them out. I guess if pics are going to be dumped from my post, it should be that first one.