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Around a month ago Eulalia proposed that the artists who show work here should attempt to show a crucifixion from the victim's perspective, I thought that was a fine idea so I went to work and finally finished today. The trouble is I could no longer find Eul's thread; looked for 20 minutes too. Sooo I'm going to put it all here whit a apology for my good friend Yul.
When Eulalia proposed that the artists who frequent this page might try exploring how a picture might look from the Victims perspective I found the idea very interesting. I’ve sort of done that before; there are images I’ve generated that approach what she suggests. Images 27 and 28 for example lean in that direction; these two images were part of some humor between Apostate and me.
Number 41 is the good old overhead shot something we’ve all seen by any number of artists.
Image number 390 is one I’ve reworked for this post to use as the base for the experiment with the victim’s perspective. I replaced her head with a camera and these are the resulting pictures; in image 391 she views her nailed right wrist while in 392 we see her body as her limited ability to move would allow. So my conclusion is that she is up there for others to enjoy. Consider the view of the soldier and his comrades; there can be no doubt as what they can see.
There are more pictures to this essay but I wouldn't want to make this posting so big that it might be rejected so more later (ie: Today to tomorrow.)
Enjoy,
Helmut
When Eulalia proposed that the artists who frequent this page might try exploring how a picture might look from the Victims perspective I found the idea very interesting. I’ve sort of done that before; there are images I’ve generated that approach what she suggests. Images 27 and 28 for example lean in that direction; these two images were part of some humor between Apostate and me.
Number 41 is the good old overhead shot something we’ve all seen by any number of artists.
Image number 390 is one I’ve reworked for this post to use as the base for the experiment with the victim’s perspective. I replaced her head with a camera and these are the resulting pictures; in image 391 she views her nailed right wrist while in 392 we see her body as her limited ability to move would allow. So my conclusion is that she is up there for others to enjoy. Consider the view of the soldier and his comrades; there can be no doubt as what they can see.
There are more pictures to this essay but I wouldn't want to make this posting so big that it might be rejected so more later (ie: Today to tomorrow.)
Enjoy,
Helmut
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montycrusto
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Great images Helmut. Eulalia's thread is here http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/victims-eye-view.4865/
Thanks Helmut, good to see those oldies, and the re-working is effective,
I get very much the sense of being 'displayed' for the gaze of others,
the Roman soldier feasting on me with his eyes.
#41 is very reminiscent of the famous sketch St John of the Cross made of his vision of Christ:
I get very much the sense of being 'displayed' for the gaze of others,
the Roman soldier feasting on me with his eyes.
#41 is very reminiscent of the famous sketch St John of the Cross made of his vision of Christ:
Here are the remainder of the new ones
I hope these images are sufficiently close and personal enough for all concerned.
So to reiterate that's about as close as you can get in broad daylight.
As always... Enjoy,
Helmut
A PS if I may; remember there are over 400 pictures in this thread.
I hope these images are sufficiently close and personal enough for all concerned.
So to reiterate that's about as close as you can get in broad daylight.
As always... Enjoy,
Helmut
A PS if I may; remember there are over 400 pictures in this thread.
I do realy
I suppose it would be best to think of this as a year end wrap-up.
Of late we have been seeing compositions about Archery in other threads. I enjoyed archery when I was younger, taught it too; where I live it is necessary to demonstrate competency with bow and arrow before an archery hunting license can be issued. I was even fortunate enough to harvest deer (Stag, buck call it what you wish.)
The one thing most people get wrong is the fact that an arrow will pass completely through and deer or a person unless you pin the target to a tree but when you do the arrow will usually break.
The picture I’m posting here has been around for some time, and she last appears in the series I did on the victim’s perspective.
One of these days maybe I’ll do a scene with Amazons fighting the Greeks with lots of spears, arrows and swards; Homer tells us the Amazons fought naked so there will be naked women. In the Trojan War the Amazons fought on the side of Troy. Also a study of Greek statues seems to indicate that most men fought with an erection so that could be an interesting picture if I get around to it. Any Input you might have about implementing archery into one of my scenes would be appreciated.
The next picture is a new boat I found. The enforced exertion required to pull an oar makes these slave girls look sexy even though I doubt they would feel sexy.
The next two images are remakes, the scene might be familiar and it happens to be a personal favorite, but the seascape is new. What do you think?
The last two are well..., I think you'll get the idea. The avatars in this Poser Rendering are supposed to remind you of certain individuals there are two people missing because I haven't come up with avatars for them.
So have a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year,
Helmut
This one is not mine but I think it's funny.
Of late we have been seeing compositions about Archery in other threads. I enjoyed archery when I was younger, taught it too; where I live it is necessary to demonstrate competency with bow and arrow before an archery hunting license can be issued. I was even fortunate enough to harvest deer (Stag, buck call it what you wish.)
The one thing most people get wrong is the fact that an arrow will pass completely through and deer or a person unless you pin the target to a tree but when you do the arrow will usually break.
The picture I’m posting here has been around for some time, and she last appears in the series I did on the victim’s perspective.
One of these days maybe I’ll do a scene with Amazons fighting the Greeks with lots of spears, arrows and swards; Homer tells us the Amazons fought naked so there will be naked women. In the Trojan War the Amazons fought on the side of Troy. Also a study of Greek statues seems to indicate that most men fought with an erection so that could be an interesting picture if I get around to it. Any Input you might have about implementing archery into one of my scenes would be appreciated.
The next picture is a new boat I found. The enforced exertion required to pull an oar makes these slave girls look sexy even though I doubt they would feel sexy.
The next two images are remakes, the scene might be familiar and it happens to be a personal favorite, but the seascape is new. What do you think?
The last two are well..., I think you'll get the idea. The avatars in this Poser Rendering are supposed to remind you of certain individuals there are two people missing because I haven't come up with avatars for them.
So have a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year,
Helmut
This one is not mine but I think it's funny.
messaline
Crucified Amazon
I like it , I like Amazons ! Mmmmm, her little red loincloth is very sexy !
Though I suppose that she's aiming a victim, she seems to not have mood ....a real amazon !
Of course, but it's a pity that they're not whipped ....
Mmmmm ! The first one : she's so proud, even if she's atrociously suffering !
She seems asking for "WHY", in the second pic ... Is he her lover ? ... an impossible LOVE ?
Hum, I'm too much "romantic", perhaps ...
This one is not mine but I think it's funny.
Perhaps that he didn't like the "commercial" side of Xmass ?
Happy New Year for you, Helmut .... and if you could post more ....?
I thought you were going to say it was when you were in the army, Helmut
And a very happy Christmas season to you too -
So have a very merry Christmas and a happy New Year,
Helmut
so nice to be the slavegirl kneeling under the tree
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Pia
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That second one is SOOOO exciting for me!
Yes, pk, you need to look back on Helmut's Thread to the great days of his galley cruising with Admi -
Connie was their first galley-slave, then this girl came along, and you should certainly be rowing with us!
http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/helmuts-thread.733/page-19#post-6727
Connie was their first galley-slave, then this girl came along, and you should certainly be rowing with us!
http://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/helmuts-thread.733/page-19#post-6727
I thought you were going to say it was when you were in the army, Helmut
And a very happy Christmas season to you too -
so nice to be the slavegirl kneeling under the tree
If I could be Santa there would be a lovely slave girl under every Christmas tree; hardly Christian but it could help bring peace on Earth.
And a very happy New year to you dear Lady.
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Pia
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Just too lovely! My sort of rowing i think!!!
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Pia
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She's lovely - I wish I was her.
While I work in “Poser” almost every day the process is not always productive in the sense that the result is not an image I can use here in the Forums. The first three images are an example of what I mean; I’ve been tweaking this figure for years. I even had someone ask me what figure I was using in a particular rendering and I explained it was Morph Woman, and she’s been around for years. I’m not sure this individual was satisfied because she doesn’t look like the Morph Woman published about 10 years ago.
Most of the figures out there are in my opinion overly endowed; they remind me of a certain Country and Western singer… It has been said of her she could sell shade on the beach and most women are not built that way. There is an old saying, “anything more than a hand full is a waste.”
I want the shoulders to be right and the breasts of a reasonable size. In other words beautiful.
In the first three Pix the one on the right is my latest and I would appreciate your opinion.
In the next three pictures I’ve done a Roman crucifixion and as Apostate once observed I like crowds. In this situation the entire female staff of a Roman household has been turned out to witness the crucifixion of a slave girl. I especially like the third rendering; she looks so alone.
Finally this is my latest and I’ve been working on her too.
Hope you enjoy
Helmut
Most of the figures out there are in my opinion overly endowed; they remind me of a certain Country and Western singer… It has been said of her she could sell shade on the beach and most women are not built that way. There is an old saying, “anything more than a hand full is a waste.”
I want the shoulders to be right and the breasts of a reasonable size. In other words beautiful.
In the first three Pix the one on the right is my latest and I would appreciate your opinion.
In the next three pictures I’ve done a Roman crucifixion and as Apostate once observed I like crowds. In this situation the entire female staff of a Roman household has been turned out to witness the crucifixion of a slave girl. I especially like the third rendering; she looks so alone.
Finally this is my latest and I’ve been working on her too.
Hope you enjoy
Helmut