Is there an insistence on the victim being undressed?

[Loinclothslave]

I've seen some discussions on this forum and the likes I got from my posts, and I can't help but notice what seems to be an insistence on the victim being undressed.

Is this the case for you? Why?

Nope. I have a huge fetish for clothing, especially skirts. When I say I like loincloths, I actually mean skirt style loincloths. It’s always been like that for me and it triggers my main kink…

I realise it’s a personal thing. But I much prefer fully clothed to naked, especially women’s clothing. I’m not enamored of male fashion… put us in skirts or dresses for our corporal punishment, slavery, or execution please.

By dressed here I don't mean just a piece of loincloth or some underwear. It could be damaged, but it should still gives the impression that no effort was taken in undressing the victim.

This is why I chose the “partly dressed” option. Just a rag draped around my waist as a basic “loincloth” skirt and nothing else.

 

[Tmaster]

Of course, the victim must be naked. It is part of the ritual. Humiliation is part of the ritual and the ordeal.

 

[Loinclothslave]

Of course, the victim must be naked. It is part of the ritual. Humiliation is part of the ritual and the ordeal.

Yawn, boring!

 

[Krampus]

Good question... I voted for undressed victim but it is not a must as you can torture and execute also dressed victims and sometimes it is ok.
Apart from humiliation, I feel that undressed victims were also a "practical" need if you get blood out of them and you want to save their clothing (remember the roman soldiers dividing Jesus clothes? Would you get them if covered with his blood?).
In this case, if for "modesty" questions the victim was supposed not to be fully naked, "single use" clothes were used (even with the guillotine: look at the large skirt in the old prints)
So, at the end my vote should be: dressed or undressed depending on situation and cultural background of the specific case

 

[stretchedgirl]

Give me just a loin cloth please . . . to start with and then whip me all over my torso, fort et dur
and then you can do anything you want with me as I will be lost in ecstasy

 

[thehangingtree]

The concept of crucifixions (Tree is talking nailing the subject to the cross here) is to execute them- rather slowly in a most cruel fashion. In ancient times, it would be considered cruel, even inhumane, to strip the condemned person naked, nail them to a cross, and raise them so all could see the person's punishment as they hang from the cross...

...so of course, that is what the authorities sentenced the criminal to. After hours- maybe days- hanging naked on the cross the criminal would be begging death to end his agony.

Of course, in modern times, such a nude crucifixion might not have the same shock value. A woman condemned to the cross for lewd flirtations on a public nude beach should not be ashamed of being condemned to death by crucified naked... but there is the crowd that gathers around the recently raised woman. They are not shy about shouting crude remarks at the woman on the cross. She wants to cover her exposed body but the nails prevent her from doing so...

She should not be concerned about the crowd. They will get bored and leave her hanging from her cross until it finishes its work on her.

 

[SirMGBZ]

In a nudist society putting nude people on cross is pointless but inevitable.

Hmm. Maybe there, they'd force the victim to be crucified fully dressed? ;-) Sort of like Terry Pratchett's troll strippers.

NAKED
Watching a victim dying completely naked would be soo beautiful.
I would never "die" wearing any clothing.
I wanna be dressed only in my blood
pure sexual death

Exactly! I want to watch you suffer and die, and clothing would impede my enjoyment. And after all, it is all about me. ;-)

Give me just a loin cloth please . . . to start with and then whip me all over my torso, fort et dur
and then you can do anything you want with me as I will be lost in ecstasy

Perhaps we could even whip the loincloth off you? Yum!

 

[thehangingtree]

The crucifixion of women was a rare event. Guards had to be there to insure no one rescued the naked woman on the cross or out of pity ended her suffering before the cross did.

The crowd's reaction to her execution was mixed. Sister Angel comments how good the condemned woman looks with her nailed arms lifting and spreading her breasts. Tree tried to act intelligent and says "They are putting her to death. There is nothing sexy about that!"
"You'd look at me if I was up there" Sister Angel says.
"I would not!" Tree exclaims. "You are a nun!"

"I'd be a naked woman nailed to the cross" Sister Angel says. "And I might add, I have a nice pair of knockers under this habit!"

 

[Loinclothslave]

The crucifixion of women was a rare event. Guards had to be there to insure no one rescued the naked woman on the cross or out of pity ended her suffering before the cross did.
View attachment 1562699
The crowd's reaction to her execution was mixed. Sister Angel comments how good the condemned woman looks with her nailed arms lifting and spreading her breasts. Tree tried to act intelligent and says "They are putting her to death. There is nothing sexy about that!"
"You'd look at me if I was up there" Sister Angel says.
"I would not!" Tree exclaims. "You are a nun!"
View attachment 1562700
"I'd be a naked woman nailed to the cross" Sister Angel says. "And I might add, I have a nice pair of knockers under this habit!"

Sister Angel is by far my favourite of your characters, I d say we need to see more of her but I like seeing her in that habit!

 

[thehangingtree]

She had a website 'Ariel Rebel'... I don't know if it is still up...

 

[Ulfen]

Nope. I have a huge fetish for clothing, especially skirts. When I say I like loincloths, I actually mean skirt style loincloths. It’s always been like that for me and it triggers my main kink…

I realise it’s a personal thing. But I much prefer fully clothed to naked, especially women’s clothing. I’m not enamored of male fashion… put us in skirts or dresses for our corporal punishment, slavery, or execution please.


This is why I chose the “partly dressed” option. Just a rag draped around my waist as a basic “loincloth” skirt and nothing else.

Agree. Loincloths or similar is good. Always naked is not needed.

I have always liked medieval shackles. Of course it has nothing to do with clothes though

 

[stretchedgirl]

Perhaps we could even whip the loincloth off you? Yum!

That would be unbearably beautiful.
I will try to tie it so it's hard to undo and you have to really flex your muscles (so good to see!) to eventually release the flimsy garment to reveal my weeping whiplashes.
You don't stop there and my totaly bare flesh tastes your wicked flaggelation for the long hours till I pass out, smiling with gratitude for your sadistic ardour xx

 

[thehangingtree]

That would be unbearably beautiful.

She is right! She has been sentenced to death by crucifixion. It would be wrong to whip her loincloth off. Fortunately Tree knows what they pay the guards and gave they a generous bribe. They let me take your cloth off and I can lick your pussy till you come.

If it bothers you too much, just reach down and push my head away. I can take a hint...

 

[bobinder]

I can't help but notice what seems to be an insistence on the victim being undressed.

Not necessarily, since there appear to be some exemptions - for example, cheerleaders at the University of the Virgin Martyrs are required to wear their team colours...

​

 

[mp5stab]

Okay, let me get into it, then!

There are three practical reasons why the girls have to be naked on the cross, typically. And yes, it can seem like an insistence, but trust me, crucifixions are something that are worth doing right. The condemned being in a state of undress is firstly a safety thing. No concealed weapons, no hidden tricks, no easy ways out. Secondly, clothing is valuable, far more value to you than the dignity of some criminal. They aren't going to need the clothing once they are dead, why let them bleed and sweat all over it when you can just take it now? Thirdly, the lack of clothing creates a separation, clear differentiation from the crowd; a naked woman is very visible, every eye is upon her. There is an element of humiliation to that as well, but being able to pragmatically sort between your cross sluts and your other slaves/gawkers is valuable.

As for aesthetic and erotic considerations, well, it is a naked body, isn't it? I feel like I don't even need to continue that line of logic!

 

[Naraku]

Not necessarily, since there appear to be some exemptions - for example, cheerleaders at the University of the Virgin Martyrs are required to wear their team colours...

View attachment 1562842​

And sing the school fight song:
"Virgin Martyrs! Virgin Martyrs! Hanging on the cross.
Hear them howl and cry in pain begging to get off.
Virgin Martyrs! Virgin Martyrs! Suffering so well.
Scream! Whimper! Sob and moan like damned souls in Hell."
(Sung to the tune of "On Wisconsin!")

 

[SirMGBZ]

That would be unbearably beautiful.
I will try to tie it so it's hard to undo and you have to really flex your muscles (so good to see!) to eventually release the flimsy garment to reveal my weeping whiplashes.
You don't stop there and my totaly bare flesh tastes your wicked flagellation for the long hours till I pass out, smiling with gratitude for your sadistic ardour xx

So long as it was also unbearably painful.

Perhaps I could embed some tacks in the tips of the falls, to tear the loincloth, as well as your lovely flesh.

And yes, a flogging that lasted for hours sounds like fun. And when you passed out, I might choose to wake you up and continue the flogging. It would just depend on what I felt like doing. Whether you could take any more whipping or not would not be my problem. You'd have to take it, because I wanted to give it.

 

[aaalexiaaa]

Not necessarily, since there appear to be some exemptions - for example, cheerleaders at the University of the Virgin Martyrs are required to wear their team colours...

View attachment 1562842​

Ooooo I like this!!!

 

[mp5stab]

Ooooo I like this!!!

We can turn this into a "clothing on the cross" thread too!

 

[stretchedgirl]

So long as it was also unbearably painful.

YES, YES! I implore you to use all your strength to make each lash heart-breakingly severe so I almost pass out with each of your ferocious strikes!

Perhaps I could embed some tacks in the tips of the falls, to tear the loincloth, as well as your lovely flesh.

Anything to make me weep harder!

And yes, a flogging that lasted for hours sounds like fun. And when you passed out, I might choose to wake you up and continue the flogging. It would just depend on what I felt like doing. Whether you could take any more whipping or not would not be my problem. You'd have to take it, because I wanted to give it.

Definitely! You should plan to spend days adding to my anguish each time I recover consciousness.
Make me yell and cry cry so my tears roll down my body!

Finally, you take me down, still just alive and hand me back to your infamous inquisitors.
You instruct them to take me to the chambers deep down under your fortress and continue practicing their evil arts on me!

I tremble at the thought of the terrible things they will do to me . .
. . but my fear is tempered by my maso nature that feeds off the fastidious attention that the muscular hunks give to my softest organs
and I am excited by the clear signs of the erotic pleasure my writhing body excites in them by the mounds in their pants!

So much more for us to enjoy xx