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Fifty years ago, from October 12th to 16th 1971, Iranian Shah Mohammed Reza Pahlevi, put up a celebration for 2500 years of monarchy in Persia.
Tens of royals, heads of state and other officials had been invited to the site of King Darius' palace Persepolis, where they resided in luxury tents.
It was a feast of four days of immense splendor, one of the most expensive celebrations, if not the most expensive one, ever held.

Ten years later, there was no more monarchy in Iran, and the Shah had already died in exile. Some say that disgust among the Iranian people against the exhuberant spread of wealth and power during these four days, has been one of the seeds that sparked the Islamic revolution, seven years later.
 
Gibbs505 said:
Oct 14th, 1088 William of Normandy defeated Harold 11 of England at the battle of Hastings!
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I'm an early medievalist, from my perspective it's been downhill ever since

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btw 1066 not 1088
 
Loxuru said:
The rest of the history of English monarchy :
Frenchmen (House of Normandy)
Other Frenchmen (House of Blois)
Even more Frenchmen (Anjou/Plantagenet)
A bastard line (the Tudors)
Scots (the Stuarts)
And finally : Germans (the current monarchy)
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And it all leads to Brexit. A long line of glory and folly. So much explained. What a mess!
 
Barbaria1 said:
And it all leads to Brexit. A long line of glory and folly. So much explained. What a mess!
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When Britain had an empire, Queen Victoria was an empress
When we later became just a kingdom, we had a king
Now we're just a country and we have Boris Johnson
:D
 
Marcius said:
Be that as it may, Harold II beat the formidable Hardrada.

And had his own brother killed into the bargain.

Yep, no luck at all.
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He should have held back from confronting William at the coast. Once he reached London after defeating Hardrada, he should have rested there and reformed his army. Once he had all the reinforcements that were supposed to reach him, then he could have faced William. Instead, he rushed south to face the Normans with a weakened army. While he position was a strong defensive one, he also had no option to retire and fight a battle of movement. He had no horses and bowman so his army was outclassed by the more modern Norman army.
If he had waited in London, calling the people to him as he was very popular, William would have had no choice but to leave his sea bases and fight his way to London passing through a hostile countryside. It could have made the difference!
 
Loxuru said:
The rest of the history of English monarchy :
Frenchmen (House of Normandy)
Other Frenchmen (House of Blois)
Even more Frenchmen (Anjou/Plantagenet)
A bastard line (the Tudors)
Scots (the Stuarts)
And finally : Germans (the current monarchy)
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You missed the Dutch (House of Orange)
Barbaria1 said:
And it all leads to Brexit. A long line of glory and folly. So much explained. What a mess!
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'history ... which is indeed for the most part little more than the register of the crimes, follies, and misfortunes of mankind.' Edward Gibbon
 
Eulalia said:
You missed the Dutch (House of Orange)
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I considered that, but I gave the advantage that William was a grandson of Charles I, hence a Stuart.

But if you insist, yet things can only get worse!

Frenchmen (House of Normandy)
Other Frenchmen (House of Blois)
Even more Frenchmen (Anjou/Plantagenet)
A bastard line (the Tudors)- descending from the previous bunch of Frenchmen
Scots (the Stuarts)
Dutch (the Oranges)
And finally : Germans (the current monarchy)
 
55 years ago, on 21st October 1966, 116 children and 28 adults were killed when a colliery waste tip slid down a mountainside and buried the Pantglas Primary School in Aberfan, in the heart of the South Wales valleys. The sheer scale of the disaster was such that it made front-page headlines around the world and even today, its memory casts a long shadow over the South Wales valleys community.

The subsequent public inquiry was pretty much a whitewash and although the National Coal Board were blamed for knowingly and wilfully breaking their own safety regulations in relation to the siting of the waste tip (of which there were seven on the mountains surrounding Aberfan) on top of a natural spring, resulting in an unstable and unsafe , nobody was ever prosecuted as a result and the NCB was not even fined for its part in the disaster.

Subsequently, the British government behaved disgracefully when the residents of Aberfan demanded the removal of the six remaining waste tips that still threatened the small town, and illegally took £150,000 from the Aberfan Disaster Memorial Fund in order to pay for the work. This stolen money was eventually paid back over 30 years later in 1997 and in 2007, the Welsh Assembly Government donated £1.5 million to the fund and £500,000 to the Aberfan Education Charity as recompense for the £150,000 that was wrongly taken.
 
Darkprincess69 said:
55 years ago, on 21st October 1966, 116 children and 28 adults were killed when a colliery waste tip slid down a mountainside and buried the Pantglas Primary School in Aberfan, in the heart of the South Wales valleys. The sheer scale of the disaster was such that it made front-page headlines around the world and even today, its memory casts a long shadow over the South Wales valleys community.

The subsequent public inquiry was pretty much a whitewash and although the National Coal Board were blamed for knowingly and wilfully breaking their own safety regulations in relation to the siting of the waste tip (of which there were seven on the mountains surrounding Aberfan) on top of a natural spring, resulting in an unstable and unsafe , nobody was ever prosecuted as a result and the NCB was not even fined for its part in the disaster.

Subsequently, the British government behaved disgracefully when the residents of Aberfan demanded the removal of the six remaining waste tips that still threatened the small town, and illegally took £150,000 from the Aberfan Disaster Memorial Fund in order to pay for the work. This stolen money was eventually paid back over 30 years later in 1997 and in 2007, the Welsh Assembly Government donated £1.5 million to the fund and £500,000 to the Aberfan Education Charity as recompense for the £150,000 that was wrongly taken.
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Our governments at work folks. :frown:
 
Darkprincess69 said:
When Britain had an empire, Queen Victoria was an empress
When we later became just a kingdom, we had a king
Now we're just a country and we have Boris Johnson
:D
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Canada to India
Australia to Cornwall
Singapore to Hong Kong
From the west to the east
From the rich to the poor
Victoria loved them all
-Ray Davies
 
This year marks the thousand-year anniversary of the arrival of the Vikings in Newfoundland to begin a CF-style reign of rape, pillage, and plunder. Those were good times!
www.kyuk.org

Researchers pinpoint when the Vikings came to Canada. It was exactly 1,000 years ago

It has long been known that the Vikings arrived in the Americas sometime before Christopher Columbus. Now, a new article in the journal Nature concludes the exact year was 1021.
www.kyuk.org
 
Praefectus Praetorio said:
This year marks the thousand-year anniversary of the arrival of the Vikings in Newfoundland to begin a CF-style reign of rape, pillage, and plunder. Those were good times!
www.kyuk.org

Researchers pinpoint when the Vikings came to Canada. It was exactly 1,000 years ago

It has long been known that the Vikings arrived in the Americas sometime before Christopher Columbus. Now, a new article in the journal Nature concludes the exact year was 1021.
www.kyuk.org
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A small quibble regarding what is a very interesting study. The authors conclude that the Norse were there on 1021, but cannot rule out an earlier arrival.

Another interesting observation is that there is no evidence for genetic traces of the Norse in the Inuit. So they may have pillaged and plundered, but likely didn't rape...
 
We also now know that the Vinland Map held by Yale University is a fake.

www.google.com

Yale Says Its Vinland Map, Once Called a Medieval Treasure, Is Fake

For decades, researchers at Yale and elsewhere have questioned the authenticity of a map that seemed to reflect Viking travels to North America. The school now says the case is closed.
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