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I looked for an existing thread about this, and while I did find threads on general music, I didn't find any specifically about this.

In the movie "Death and the Maiden", an important plot point is that a torturer plays a piece of music by Schubert each time he tortures and rapes the victim. It made me wonder: what’s your position on music in the torture chamber?

[Note - I'm using the "she" pronoun for the victim as that's my preference and what was used in the movie, but read whatever pronoun you prefer.]
  • I prefer nothing so I can better hear my victim's delightful sounds
    • ie "I'll be too occupied by what I'm doing to even notice music, and my victim will be so occupied that she won't care about it either!"
  • A little something in the background while she waits for me to begin shows this is a fun pastime for me and heighten her fear and dismay, but I'll turn it off when the action begins
    • ie. "I want to be in the right headspace before I begin, and I want her to be disoriented and stressed. Some introductory music will help achieve that."
  • It adds atmosphere so I'm happy to keep the beats going all the way through
    • ie. "I like the juxtaposition of something beautiful in what, for the victim, is a horrific context, and the lifelong association she'll have of that music with her pain."
  • It depends on the situation adn who's there
    • ie. "If there's a group of torturers taking part, music enhances the party atmosphere and gets the blood pumping faster."
  • Something else?
If you do want music in the torture chamber, what would you play?

Some classical possibilities to start us off...
  • Mozart’s Requiem in D Minor
  • Summer, autumn, winter of The Four Seasons by Vivaldi
  • Gregorian chants
  • Pier Gynt Suite 1 by Grieg
  • Lux Aeterna from the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack by Clint Mansell
  • Elysium from the Gladiator soundtrack by Hans Zimmer
And some modern ones...
  • Heaven by I Monster
  • Lost Girl Theme Song
  • Roman Agency Rock by Spencer Creaghan
  • I Know What Boys Like by The Waitresses
  • Don’t Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult
  • Alice: Madness Returns by Marshall Crutcher
  • Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien by Edith Piaf

I'm sure some of these will make you laugh... what do you think would set the right mood?
 
In 1992 in Manchester, England, Suzanne Capper was tortured for a week and then burned alive by 6 lowlifes, including two women who were her former babysitter and neighbor. Each torture session with began with the phrase "Chucky's coming to play," and the song "Hi, I'm Chucky (Wanna Play?)" by 150 Volts, featuring samples from the movie Child's Play—played at maximum volume through Capper's headphones.

Capper was injected with amphetamines, beaten, burned with cigarettes, had her teeth pulled out, and put in a disinfectant bath and scrubbed so hard her skin was torn off. All 6 perpetrators were deemed sane, and the last was released from prison a year ago.
 
The suggestion Heaven by I Monster is great! A bit naughty, a bit playful, a bit uncanny. It would create the perfect atmosphere for the beginning of a really sick torture session!

For a more classical mood some organ music by Bach would be nice. Would make me feel like a nineteenth century supervillain while tying a woman to the rack...!

And it might be a bit silly, but as a little reminiscence to my sound Roman Catholic upbringing I would even enjoy listening to the Pet Shop Boys, It's a sin:
At school they taught me how to be
So pure in thought and word and deed
They didn't quite succeed
:D
 
For a dark and tense atmosphere, I can recommend "Alien Passageways" from the "Subnautica" soundtrack. Played on loop, since it is rather short.

 
Easy listening : Ray Connif, Mantovani, James Last, Bert Kaempfert, Helmut Zacharias, Raymond Lefèvre, Percy Faith, Caravelli, Michel Legrand, Burt Bacharach,.... :cool:
After all, the staff has a stressful job, so they should not be subjected to all kinds of humpapa during their work! :band:
 
Didymos said:
Such a dark theme might go well with Time by Hans Zimmer, from the Inception soundtrack... :)
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Yes, it does. But I would not play "Time" in my torture chamber.

Don't get me wrong - I love this score! In fact, it is my third-favorite score by Hans Zimmer (right after "No Time for Caution" and "Lost but Won").

But although it has some very dark notes, the general tone of "Time" is quite uplifting. It is more about defeating despair rather than suffering it. Not exactly the mood the victim should be in. ;)

Mikerytel said:
for extra humiliation :)
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Not too far from reality. Didn't the Americans play the "Sesame Street" song to the Guantanamo prisoners?
 
dommmu said:
Yes, it does. But I would not play "Time" in my torture chamber.

Don't get me wrong - I love this score! In fact, it is my third-favorite score by Hans Zimmer (right after "No Time for Caution" and "Lost but Won").

But although it has some very dark notes, the general tone of "Time" is quite uplifting. It is more about defeating despair rather than suffering it. Not exactly the mood the victim should be in. ;)



Not too far from reality. Didn't the Americans play the "Sesame Street" song to the Guantanamo prisoners?
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I'm not sure about the sesame street thing. I'd have to check
 
Online_Ratt said:
I looked for an existing thread about this, and while I did find threads on general music, I didn't find any specifically about this.

In the movie "Death and the Maiden", an important plot point is that a torturer plays a piece of music by Schubert each time he tortures and rapes the victim. It made me wonder: what’s your position on music in the torture chamber?

[Note - I'm using the "she" pronoun for the victim as that's my preference and what was used in the movie, but read whatever pronoun you prefer.]
  • I prefer nothing so I can better hear my victim's delightful sounds
    • ie "I'll be too occupied by what I'm doing to even notice music, and my victim will be so occupied that she won't care about it either!"
  • A little something in the background while she waits for me to begin shows this is a fun pastime for me and heighten her fear and dismay, but I'll turn it off when the action begins
    • ie. "I want to be in the right headspace before I begin, and I want her to be disoriented and stressed. Some introductory music will help achieve that."
  • It adds atmosphere so I'm happy to keep the beats going all the way through
    • ie. "I like the juxtaposition of something beautiful in what, for the victim, is a horrific context, and the lifelong association she'll have of that music with her pain."
  • It depends on the situation adn who's there
    • ie. "If there's a group of torturers taking part, music enhances the party atmosphere and gets the blood pumping faster."
  • Something else?
If you do want music in the torture chamber, what would you play?

Some classical possibilities to start us off...
  • Mozart’s Requiem in D Minor
  • Summer, autumn, winter of The Four Seasons by Vivaldi
  • Gregorian chants
  • Pier Gynt Suite 1 by Grieg
  • Lux Aeterna from the Requiem for a Dream soundtrack by Clint Mansell
  • Elysium from the Gladiator soundtrack by Hans Zimmer
And some modern ones...
  • Heaven by I Monster
  • Lost Girl Theme Song
  • Roman Agency Rock by Spencer Creaghan
  • I Know What Boys Like by The Waitresses
  • Don’t Fear the Reaper by Blue Oyster Cult
  • Alice: Madness Returns by Marshall Crutcher
  • Non, Je Ne Regrette Rien by Edith Piaf

I'm sure some of these will make you laugh... what do you think would set the right mood?
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I agree Dies Irae - the words themselves are terrifying! Mozart's setting is superbly dramatic, but the plainsong original is pretty scary too:

Similarly William Byrd's 'Ne irascaris Domine' ('Don't be angry, Lord'), especially the last part, a despairing cry from utter desolation:
Thomas Tallis's Lamentations of Jeremiah, and the Allegri Miserere are in the same league.

Schubert's Death & the Maiden, of course, ever since Ariel Dorfmann used that for his play (later film) - also Schubert's C Major string quintet, that Eichmann puts on to play on the gramophone at the end of the Wansee Conference when the 'Final Solution' was agreed, in the film 'Conspiracy':
And the whole of Winterreise.

'Non, je ne regrette rien' I've requested for my funeral, whenever that might be! :)
 
dommmu said:
Yes, it does. But I would not play "Time" in my torture chamber.

Don't get me wrong - I love this score! In fact, it is my third-favorite score by Hans Zimmer (right after "No Time for Caution" and "Lost but Won").

But although it has some very dark notes, the general tone of "Time" is quite uplifting. It is more about defeating despair rather than suffering it. Not exactly the mood the victim should be in. ;)



Not too far from reality. Didn't the Americans play the "Sesame Street" song to the Guantanamo prisoners?
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I believe that was Barney’s “I Love You; You Love Me” and not the Sesame Street theme, wasn’t it?
 
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