Some of my drawings

[Serva]

That appeals to me too, as a slavegirl. And the 'basic work' is something i take a pride in - cooking, cleaning, gardening - and even jobs like carrying water, it can and should be done with careful attention, moving, standing, walking, so as to present my body to best advantage, always behaving as i would in His presence whether or not He's there. Along with all the rituals of serving, kneeling etc. Yes, the Whip is important, it's my teacher, my guide, but it's part of a whole lifestyle that a true, natural slavegirl can constantly work to perfect.

You struck the nail on the head (hah!).

Slavery is a whole experience, and punishment is really only a small part of that; I love being the most submissive and resigned of slaves, in which case the whip tends to become a looming threat always around the corner. I love the entire experience of being a slave with all it entails, and of course, out of the 24 hours in a day... most of them will be spent working! It is after all the entire purpose of slavery, to use and exploit other human beings.

And other than the domestic tasks, intimate gestures of servitude such as massaging my Dominus from shoulders to feet with scented oil, or to stand at his side fanning him while he works on the villa's accounts.

 

[Leatherchain]

That appeals to me too, as a slavegirl. And the 'basic work' is something i take a pride in - cooking, cleaning, gardening - and even jobs like carrying water, it can and should be done with careful attention, moving, standing, walking, so as to present my body to best advantage, always behaving as i would in His presence whether or not He's there. Along with all the rituals of serving, kneeling etc. Yes, the Whip is important, it's my teacher, my guide, but it's part of a whole lifestyle that a true, natural slavegirl can constantly work to perfect.

THIS is the essence of D/s! S/M is about pain. B/D is about restraints, constriction, posture. Most people think that's what BDSM is. B/D and S/M. But that middle part...the D/s...that's where the real joy and fantasy lies. Domination is about control, not about delivering pain or contorting bodies. Submission is about service and trust and commitment. Pain, fear, sex, orgasms (or lack thereof), reward and punishment...these are tools, not goals.
The true reward is the service, the acts of submission and pleasing. The true punishment is not just the pain, but what it means...failure to please. Yes, sometimes the pain is a necessary reminder, and can even be enjoyed by it's own merits. But the true joy is the submission itself.
I feel like I should be teaching a class, right now. Or starting a cult. Or maybe a slave training facility. "Okay. girls. Time to re-train your brains. Let's begin."

 

[Serva]

THIS is the essence of D/s! S/M is about pain. B/D is about restraints, constriction, posture. Most people think that's what BDSM is. B/D and S/M. But that middle part...the D/s...that's where the real joy and fantasy lies. Domination is about control, not about delivering pain or contorting bodies. Submission is about service and trust and commitment. Pain, fear, sex, orgasms (or lack thereof), reward and punishment...these are tools, not goals.
The true reward is the service, the acts of submission and pleasing. The true punishment is not just the pain, but what it means...failure to please. Yes, sometimes the pain is a necessary reminder, and can even be enjoyed by it's own merits. But the true joy is the submission itself.
I feel like I should be teaching a class, right now. Or starting a cult. Or maybe a slave training facility. "Okay. girls. Time to re-train your brains. Let's begin."

Word for word! This is exactly my thought as well!

 

[Leatherchain]

It's been a busy day talking. Now to actually show some work. I've been working on this on and off for a week or more. It's still a work in progress. Need to finish the background, and give the girls some ornamentation, but I think it's a good enough place to put out there for comments.

 

[Serva]

It's been a busy day talking. Now to actually show some work. I've been working on this on and off for a week or more. It's still a work in progress. Need to finish the background, and give the girls some ornamentation, but I think it's a good enough place to put out there for comments.

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Ok, this is really fantastic. I love the movements of both girls!

 

[KageKamen]

A few know me from other forums. By way of intro to others, please allow me to show you a few of my works. I'm an amateur, so no formal training. Just a love of the subject. Mostly I do slavegirl images, but a few cross over into several forms of death fetish/fantasy. I'll post a few, mainly hanging, but maybe a few others for variety. I have about 150 that I've done so far. I make them as I find time and inspiration.

Simple but evocative. I did already know you from DA, but it's good to see you here too.

I just want to say that I really like the style and themes of these drawings. Personally, I love it when the slaves look more like ordinary girls than super models. I can appreciate how these drawings show diversity, so they depict some girls having nice bodies while some others looking plain or plump, and such differences will decide their market value and for what purpose they will be used.

Thank you! I personally prefer more 'realistic' women. Variety is the spice of life. When everyone looks like a 'supermodel', it not only seems unrealistic to me, but also seems very monochromatic and, honestly, boring. And besides, I LOVE women, in all shapes, colors, and forms. Beauty comes in a variety of packaging.

I'll concur on this (although for me focusing on women alone is still a bit narrow). And I figured you'd like them, mystic.

 

[Serva]

I'll concur on this (although for me focusing on women alone is still a bit narrow).

I second this. I still prefer women many times over men... but some visuals of male slaves are wonderful for immersion.

 

[KageKamen]

Why would any respectable slave owner would go for a backside whipping when he can blast her breasts instead?

Taste is subjective. And perhpas he knows she hates that more?

New one I just finished. I always liked the idea of slaves doing actual, basic work in my fantasy world. It can't be sex, beatings and executions every minute of every day. And not every girl would be at a galley oar or deep in a mine. Someone has to cook, clean, haul water, do the gardening, etc. This would be basic slave life.

Heartily concur - work is the point of slaves, which I feel some artists and such forget sometimes.

It's a matter of personal preferences, so I understand that there are many who are mainly focused on physical pain or discomfort itself and there's nothing wrong about it. However, BDSM for me has always been about being dominated and feeling humiliated and helpless in the process.

I love this, this is incredible in its simplicity. This is the kind of slavery scene I LIVE for! No chains, no bondage, no restraints. No pain, no torture except for what may be going on in the minds of the slaves. It's so suggestive because my mind immediately starts filling in the blanks trying to figure out the context. Who the slaves are, who their master is, and how they relate to each other.

Some interesting insights into your tastes and preferences.

It's funny to see the people who are comfortable in it vs those who use it as a substitute for supposed lost power in the real world. I've had several subs through my life, and I like to think that they get as much out of it as I do. It always bothers me when I see a Dom hurling abuse at his sub/slave. Unless that is the sub's specific fantasy, then I always saw it as a sign of weakness, not strength. I would often say "Please" and "Thank you" to my girls if they did a task for me. It costs me nothing. But it shows appreciation for a job well done.

While abuse is pointless, many would feel thanking a slave was just as pointless, or even demeaning - they exist to serve, so why acknowledge it?

Don't get me wrong, I am also 100% in agreement with everything you say here.

But I have a different approach to protocol and how things are framed. "Go get me a drink, bitch, right fucking now!" is the sign of a poor slaveowner. I find no enjoyment in that, have no interest for it. But in my case it's... "Slave, pour me wine." In the same tone as if he were saying please... without saying please. He might even call me by my name, sure, but still no "please". Because the whole purpose of my existence is to serve and obey him, his saying please and thank you, to me, undermine the ritual a little. I love feeling like I am being used, even if used with care.

For this reason I have fetishes for the very words "Dominus" and "slave". Using one and being recipient of the other. I love protocols that signal my slavery and my submission. Slavery is both about obedience as about service. The purpose of a slave is service, that is why her obedience is important, so she be of the best service she can be. This is just the way it works in my brain at least, if it makes sense.

Yes, like this.

 

[KageKamen]

THIS is the essence of D/s! S/M is about pain. B/D is about restraints, constriction, posture. Most people think that's what BDSM is. B/D and S/M. But that middle part...the D/s...that's where the real joy and fantasy lies. Domination is about control, not about delivering pain or contorting bodies. Submission is about service and trust and commitment. Pain, fear, sex, orgasms (or lack thereof), reward and punishment...these are tools, not goals.
The true reward is the service, the acts of submission and pleasing. The true punishment is not just the pain, but what it means...failure to please. Yes, sometimes the pain is a necessary reminder, and can even be enjoyed by it's own merits. But the true joy is the submission itself.
I feel like I should be teaching a class, right now. Or starting a cult. Or maybe a slave training facility. "Okay. girls. Time to re-train your brains. Let's begin."

I feel I kind of sit in the middle between you and the people you contrast youself with. On the one hand, I'm very concerned with the psychology and the power dynamics - but on the other hand, I love the props and setpieces too. So I suppose you could call me into "holistic BDSM" - although I generally avoid the phrase, which carrys too many connotations of leather and ballgags.

 

[Leatherchain]

Gaaah! You guys are messing with my fantasy world (that I've constructed out of whole cloth and that exists only in my head)! In my world, (which is not actually Rome, but shares many similarities), female slavery is the norm. A woman OUT of slavery would be abnormal, as would a man in slavery. A fallen army is generally either given courtesies, or death. Honor is a huge deal on this world, and to accept slavery to avoid death would be considered dishonourable. And what man would want a man as a slave? They would be troublesome, at the least. And a gay man would not want male slave. He'd want a brave and honorable partner. On this world, it would just be...weird. Especially when female slaves are so reliable and easy to obtain and keep.

[As an aside, I do have an idea of a woman who does not WANT to be a slave {weird}, and earns her freedom in the arena, which is VERY abnormal. She will take to dressing as and being called a man, work for the man who freed her/him, and have slaves of her own. Since I teach medieval combat, I know good and well that women can fight. One of the few people who have ever been able to stand toe-to-toe with me with spears is a woman. I watched her kick a dozen guys asses in the longsword tourney. A lot of inspiration, there.]

I'll think about it. Maybe I can work in something with a criminal to be punished, or something.

 

[fallenmystic]

Taste is subjective. And perhpas he knows she hates that more?

Of course. And that's why I have put emoticon on that sentence

 

[KageKamen]

Gaaah! You guys are messing with my fantasy world (that I've constructed out of whole cloth and that exists only in my head)! In my world, (which is not actually Rome, but shares many similarities), female slavery is the norm. A woman OUT of slavery would be abnormal, as would a man in slavery. A fallen army is generally either given courtesies, or death. Honor is a huge deal on this world, and to accept slavery to avoid death would be considered dishonourable. And what man would want a man as a slave? They would be troublesome, at the least. And a gay man would not want male slave. He'd want a brave and honorable partner. On this world, it would just be...weird. Especially when female slaves are so reliable and easy to obtain and keep.

[As an aside, I do have an idea of a woman who does not WANT to be a slave {weird}, and earns her freedom in the arena, which is VERY abnormal. She will take to dressing as and being called a man, work for the man who freed her/him, and have slaves of her own. Since I teach medieval combat, I know good and well that women can fight. One of the few people who have ever been able to stand toe-to-toe with me with spears is a woman. I watched her kick a dozen guys asses in the longsword tourney. A lot of inspiration, there.]

I'll think about it. Maybe I can work in something with a criminal to be punished, or something.

Well, if your fantasies are like that then that's your business - it's just a way in which they deviate from ours.

Although I will point out that in this case, unless there are well-known outsider cultures with different rules, "slave" is not likely to be a concept at all. Just a synonym for "woman."

(The brutality also seems a bit odd if this system is widely accepted and unquestionable, but there's more wiggle room there.)

 

[Leatherchain]

I feel I kind of sit in the middle between you and the people you contrast youself with. On the one hand, I'm very concerned with the psychology and the power dynamics - but on the other hand, I love the props and setpieces too. So I suppose you could call me into "holistic BDSM" - although I generally avoid the phrase, which carrys too many connotations of leather and ballgags.

Oh, I'm there with you. I LOVE the physical aspects of it, and can play without the D/s elements. Done it many times. I have a lot of things in my bag of tricks, both physical and mental. I truly enjoy the B/D and S/M aspects of it. But for me, the real joy is the dominance play. That's my kink, more than any other. Not talking bad about any of it. It's just that I know the things that truly do it for me. Those things are usually missed in most erotica. That's why I do what I do. No one else was portraying it.

 

[KageKamen]

Oh, I'm there with you. I LOVE the physical aspects of it, and can play without the D/s elements. Done it many times. I have a lot of things in my bag of tricks, both physical and mental. I truly enjoy the B/D and S/M aspects of it. But for me, the real joy is the dominance play. That's my kink, more than any other. Not talking bad about any of it. It's just that I know the things that truly do it for me. Those things are usually missed in most erotica. That's why I do what I do. No one else was portraying it.

I think you'll find some, here on CF even - and perhpas even I'll take a stab at it one day, though not in art form.

But yes - for me, slavery (and other things I like like judicial) are very much about both power/domination and the physical manifestations of such.

 

[Leatherchain]

Well, if your fantasies are like that then that's your business - it's just a way in which they deviate from ours.

Although I will point out that in this case, unless there are well-known outsider cultures with different rules, "slave" is not likely to be a concept at all. Just a synonym for "woman."

(The brutality also seems a bit odd if this system is widely accepted and unquestionable, but there's more wiggle room there.)

In my world, it mostly is. But there is history there, even if it is forgotten, which gives us the term. It's a complicated place. My brain has too many hidden nooks and crannies.

 

[KageKamen]

In my world, it mostly is. But there is history there, even if it is forgotten, which gives us the term. It's a complicated place. My brain has too many hidden nooks and crannies.

Well, you don't have to just post pics - expositing on your setting is also OK. Even if it's not so to my taste, I'm sure there will be others who'll enjoy such things.

 

[Leatherchain]

I've written a handful of things, most set in this fantasy world, a couple set in others. Writing is, in some ways, harder than drawing. I need to check and see if I've posted any of that ere. I get confused, trying to remember where I've posted things.

 

[Leatherchain]

By the by, on the subject of Rome...I'm an ancient Celtic re-enactor, soooooo....fucking hate the Romans. The stories I could tell. I'll have a beer with my Roman friends, but I'll make sure to give them hell the entire time.

 

[KageKamen]

By the by, on the subject of Rome...I'm an ancient Celtic re-enactor, soooooo....fucking hate the Romans. The stories I could tell. I'll have a beer with my Roman friends, but I'll make sure to give them hell the entire time.

Perhaps one reason you are committed to losing men dying honourably rather than being marched off in chains?

 

[Apostate]

And other than the domestic tasks, intimate gestures of servitude such as massaging my Dominus from shoulders to feet with scented oil, or to stand at his side fanning him while he works on the villa's accounts.

And to be at his feet when he needs to take a break from business.