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[jacksjg89]

Personally, I like the faceless man religion in Game of Thrones. The idea that all religions are basically praying to the same god and that it's death. I do like to think that humans are more than just meat sacks. Makes the act of crucifixion and the humiliation of a dead body more significant if it represents a soul rather than dead tissue. Still, I'm possible to know. Not worried about it being any of the beliefs with threats of Hell for not believing in it though.

 

[jacksjg89]

As an aside, anyone here read Michel Foucault? He might be a little lefty for some (He gets called a Marxist even though he specifically rejected it) but he writes on the history of Sexuality and the history of torture and incarceration as punishment. His work is about identifying the mechanisms of power.

 

[zerns]

Yeap! If you're not already worshiping @zerns, you're probably just doing it wrong.

How can I not like that reply!

 

[zerns]

Yes, atheists beware - God is alive and well and is a member of Cruxforums!

A wry response and unarguably unarguable.

 

[Loxuru]

If you post 10,000 times on the Forums, you can be God Emperor.
Apart from the usual suspects in the staff team, we have currently a Trinity of God-Emperors, Wulf, Gibbs and Loxuru,
as well as Goddess-Empress Messaline.

And the late Praefectus Praetorio had also achieved the God-Emperor status!

and Loxuru

Since about a month Double-God-Emperor!

 

[Jollyrei]

As an aside, anyone here read Michel Foucault? He might be a little lefty for some (He gets called a Marxist even though he specifically rejected it) but he writes on the history of Sexuality and the history of torture and incarceration as punishment. His work is about identifying the mechanisms of power.

I have read a fair bit of Foucault. I think the issue is that you don't have to be leftie to get labelled a leftie, if you are genuinely studying something. It always means changing a perspective, which is why learning and knowledge tends to naturally lean left.

 

[Eulalia]

And a fast approaching fourth … Wulf

Wulf's already the Third Person of the Trinity, it's H&M whose heading for the Pantheon.

And the late Praefectus Praetorio had also achieved the God-Emperor status!

Since about a month Double-God-Emperor!

Congratulations, Lox. Among the departed, as well as PrPr, Monty Crusto was also deified

the history of Sexuality and the history of torture and incarceration as punishment. His work is about identifying the mechanisms of power.

But you can read about all those things on CruxForums, and enjoy pictures of them too!

 

[thehangingtree]

If you are genuinely studying something. It always means changing a perspective, which is why learning and knowledge tends to naturally lean left.

Also 'lefties' are better at getting grants they don't have to repay...

 

[PeterVl]

As an aside, anyone here read Michel Foucault? He might be a little lefty for some (He gets called a Marxist even though he specifically rejected it) but he writes on the history of Sexuality and the history of torture and incarceration as punishment. His work is about identifying the mechanisms of power.

I've not discerned him to be a leftist (nor a rightist either), but he was certainly a pessimist.

 

[Barbaria1]

Wulf's already the Third Person of the Trinity, it's H&M whose heading for the Pantheon.

Ooops … yes, I misread that. Apologies to @wulf . Someone crucify me

 

[Jollyrei]

Personally, I like the faceless man religion in Game of Thrones. The idea that all religions are basically praying to the same god and that it's death.

I AM OKAY WITH THIS. DROP IN AND SAY HELLO (OR GOODBYE, AS INDEED THE CASE MAY BE).


(BUT I DON'T ANSWER WISHES OR GIVE MONEY.)

 

[jacksjg89]

I AM OKAY WITH THIS. DROP IN AND SAY HELLO (OR GOODBYE, AS INDEED THE CASE MAY BE).

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(BUT I DON'T ANSWER WISHES OR GIVE MONEY.)

Thanks for the gift!

Also 'lefties' are better at getting grants they don't have to repay...

Indebtedness is more valuable

I have read a fair bit of Foucault. I think the issue is that you don't have to be leftie to get labelled a leftie, if you are genuinely studying something. It always means changing a perspective, which is why learning and knowledge tends to naturally lean left.

I probably shouldn't have tried to get out in front of it. Reading Discipline and Punish and it begins with a graphic description of a guys flesh being ripped off followed by drawing and quartering. And then he fast fowards a hundreds years to a prison time table to show how prisoners lives and time are managed. The judgement moving on from control of the body to control of the soul. I began wondering about it in relation to what's happening here. Does the brutal punishment system of the past make it easier for us to be ourselves rather than a new disciplinary system that acts benevolent and seeks to change our behavior and soul.

 

[Frank Petrexa]

Becoming a God-Emperor may have advantages. I may have mentioned my business idea before: www.666.com. The idea is that you sign up for 10 US cents a day, or $36.50 a year. A random number generated by the laser in Switzerland will each day choose a religion for you. If you happen to die on that day, and that religion is the RIGHT ONE, then you are set for the afterlife. Religions could join and get a cut of the proceeds, so they all would, including the God-Emperors. The Customers get the peace of mind knowing that they didn't have agonize about who is right and who is wrong--the laser random number generator gives them a fighting chance to die in the right religion. Everybody likes convenience.

 

[Mikerytel]

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[Mortarion86]

Personally, I like the faceless man religion in Game of Thrones. The idea that all religions are basically praying to the same god and that it's death. I do like to think that humans are more than just meat sacks. Makes the act of crucifixion and the humiliation of a dead body more significant if it represents a soul rather than dead tissue. Still, I'm possible to know. Not worried about it being any of the beliefs with threats of Hell for not believing in it though.

There are many long, complex and intelligent arguments made here regarding religion and atheism. But in the end it all comes down to the fact that we only know for sure about the existence of death. Everything after it is just speculation of varying degrees of imagination. And the fear of death is almost insurmountable, otherwise so many religions, cults and sects would not exist.

 

[Eulalia]

Of course I don't know what will happen to whatever I'm referring to when I use the pronoun 'I' when I die, but recognising that 'I' only experiences being 'me' when the organism I call 'me' is (more or less) conscious, I can't see how 'I' can continue to exist, as an autonomous, self-conscious subject after 'me' has died.

Yet I do have some 'religious', or at any rate metaphysical belief - in the logical necessity of an ultimate reality/ truth of which the universe (including me) is an expression, though That is beyond the limits of human thought or language - Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen - all I can know is the universe and myself. Beyond that, I am content, with Keats, 'to accept uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason'.

But I also believe that 'worship' - in the sense of expressing wonder, awe, joy, gratitude for the experience of being human, acknowledging our own shortcomings and deficiencies, and entering into some state of mind away from the surface noise - is a natural, healthy activity that most humans have engaged in, one way or another, throughout the history of our species. And I respect those who follow a 'religious' way of life in a serious way as offering valuable alternatives to what are generally taken for granted as the purposes of life in our self-centred consumer society.

So, while my beliefs and ways of acting on them are hardly consistent with the teachings of any particular religion or sect, I certainly don't reject or scorn the central role that 'religion' has played in human history, nor do I imagine the world would be better off without it.

 

[captivecuties]

Of course I don't know what will happen to whatever I'm referring to when I use the pronoun 'I' when I die, but recognising that 'I' only experiences being 'me' when the organism I call 'me' is (more or less) conscious, I can't see how 'I' can continue to exist, as an autonomous, self-conscious subject after 'me' has died.

Yet I do have some 'religious', or at any rate metaphysical belief - in the logical necessity of an ultimate reality/ truth of which the universe (including me) is an expression, though That is beyond the limits of human thought or language - Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muß man schweigen - all I can know is the universe and myself. Beyond that, I am content, with Keats, 'to accept uncertainties, mysteries, doubts, without any irritable reaching after fact and reason'.

But I also believe that 'worship' - in the sense of expressing wonder, awe, joy, gratitude for the experience of being human, acknowledging our own shortcomings and deficiencies, and entering into some state of mind away from the surface noise - is a natural, healthy activity that most humans have engaged in, one way or another, throughout the history of our species. And I respect those who follow a 'religious' way of life in a serious way as offering valuable alternatives to what are generally taken for granted as the purposes of life in our self-centred consumer society.

So, while my beliefs and ways of acting on them are hardly consistent with the teachings of any particular religion or sect, I certainly don't reject or scorn the central role that 'religion' has played in human history, nor do I imagine the world would be better off without it.

I often wondered, being brought up in a Christian background but discovering the wonders of the outer realms of the universe and science with it…what will come of it all after our sun expands and renders the earth into a cinder and then just fuel?
All the graves, monuments,geology and haunted houses?
The history, poetry, hero’s and villain…all gone.
Do we continue in any way or are we truly just matter changing form?

 

[Hugin&Munin]

I often wondered, being brought up in a Christian background but discovering the wonders of the outer realms of the universe and science with it…what will come of it all after our sun expands and renders the earth into a cinder and then just fuel?
All the graves, monuments,geology and haunted houses?
The history, poetry, hero’s and villain…all gone.
Do we continue in any way or are we truly just matter changing form?

That would be the state that Buddhists would consider to be the ultimate salvation. Absolute "nothingness". Good and bad karma creates the consequence of rebirth, samsara. The ultimate goal of Buddhism is to escape this cycle by no longer creating karma - actions then leave no trace in the world. In Buddhism, this is referred to as the entrance to nirvana. In addition, in Buddhism there is no "only and true God" and no paradise or hell.

 

[captivecuties]

That would be the state that Buddhists would consider to be the ultimate salvation. Absolute "nothingness". Good and bad karma creates the consequence of rebirth, samsara. The ultimate goal of Buddhism is to escape this cycle by no longer creating karma - actions then leave no trace in the world. In Buddhism, this is referred to as the entrance to nirvana. In addition, in Buddhism there is no "only and true God" and no paradise or hell.

I’m a Buddhist and didn’t know it!

 

[Hugin&Munin]

I’m a Buddhist and didn’t know it!

I studied religions many years ago, as you can see from my avatar, but I can't say that any of them has a monopoly on the absolute truth.