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Looking forward to the rebirth, I suspect that the hose from the cap is for air and the babymaker is a pump....if so you have a great twisted mind :D
 
I have heard that the ovaries are as sensitive as male testicles. Would be fun to see them tortured either by internal insertions,injections, expansions or even even surgical cuts and pull them out of the abdomen and keep them out with pliers so full access to torture. Pretty sure ut would make them puke from pain.
 
I think it would be nice if at some points your girls took the initiative. Of course I understand that this is not exactly what you expect from women in this situation, but what do you think? Could they be a little more twisted than they look?
 
Dsx_Zg said:
I think it would be nice if at some points your girls took the initiative. Of course I understand that this is not exactly what you expect from women in this situation, but what do you think? Could they be a little more twisted than they look?
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It would be nice-but only at the beginning of a story perhaps. My girls- unless someone is commissioning otherwise- are in the stories to be profoundly tortured. Nobody's inner slut could get off on the torture I mete out. Never convinced an actual person would enjoy being skinned or crucified, or limbed or gang branded etc and so to represent a character digging those things kind of robs the reality ( fantasy though it is) for me. The purpose is to shock and horrify the innocent-to take them to places they didn't know and wouldn't want to know existed in terms of pain and death. Perhaps a victim abducted who is a BDSM type girl and thinks she is in for some "rough" action at an S/M club and it turns out to be a torture/snuff show she didn't expect- might work. My girls are more like the girl next door-not naive-just not into major kink. thanks for the suggestion though. Doragan writes great stories, like The Ordeals of Alisa Foxen, that unleash the inner slut in a women who turns out to be not only a slut, but a pain slut and one who apparently has lost the will to live. Highly arousing writing.
 
Yes of course it would be strange in this form. I'll try to expand on it. These women may well realize that they are finished and try (speed up) the process. finally they may go crazy and start enjoying themselves. But above all, they may take the initiative to reduce the pain. Like in 4X, when they had screws put in their chests, they could, for example, put them in themselves in a less painful way.

Also, not all of your torture is so absolute. Some may be on the verge of hardcore BDSM or the initiative may be part of the torture.
 
Dsx_Zg said:
Yes of course it would be strange in this form. I'll try to expand on it. These women may well realize that they are finished and try (speed up) the process. finally they may go crazy and start enjoying themselves. But above all, they may take the initiative to reduce the pain. Like in 4X, when they had screws put in their chests, they could, for example, put them in themselves in a less painful way.

Also, not all of your torture is so absolute. Some may be on the verge of hardcore BDSM or the initiative may be part of the torture.
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Yes if they try to kill themselves because they believe they are going to die more horrendous deaths that would be logical. The torture masters should know about when that time is coming and not give them any objects or opportunities to suicide themselves easily. In 4X the false hope is presented that one will be allowed to live. Hence the will to survive pushes them forward until it is obvious it was all a lie. Eileen and Candy are not at that point yet-thinking perhaps the other will be the one snuffed. Yes the hardcore BDSM moments are designed to torture and wear them down and to give the audience time to enjoy general torture and rape. A kind of intermission. After all can't just go right to the snuff-were's the party in that.
 
Yes, but not all are the same. For some women, the humiliation and torment they endure may be more significant. It can move them to an earlier suicide attempt. And they might just despair before it's time for the snuff.
And of course the torture in the beginning may be milder and even more pleasant. Moreover, the girls themselves can be attracted to the game. Well, they don't know anything yet.

Torture and abuse can break their will much sooner. They would simply turn into robots who would follow orders.
They might get a shock when they don't know what's going on.
Finally, they may become angry.
Like, "You want your dog to fuck me, I'll fuck him myself! Or during the torture, ask to add tension or temperature ask to brandish a nicer brand.
At least so there would be interaction between the girls and the torturers.
 
Most girls become meat puppets when your running a cauterizing knife around the perimeter of their sphincter or drilling into bone marrow. That's the goal, jabbering ,slobbering,pleading,mindless, pink jiggling toys experiencing pain to a degree that the only physical response is to scream and thrash. Now to keep them brightly aware during intense mutilation chemicals must be given. Some are used to heighten pain or lessen pain. If a women goes into the "fuck you, I'll hurt myself" mode you escalate the torture to regain control. Maybe eyeball removal or forcing body part eating. Whatever focuses them. But ultimately chemicals are necessary because under deep torture the victim would realistically go into shock likely leading to heart failure. Real torture practice is more about having them feel and see the destruction of their body's. I believe the Saudi's used this technique on the journalist they tortured to death a while back. Peeled the skin and nails from his fingers then cut each one off- all while keeping him alert and watching and screaming. Frankly real torture to real victims is abhorrent . Anyone who is writing fantasy S/M can have their victims react in anyway that gets them off, whether it's probable in reality or not. They can be nailed to a cross while having a post rammed through their cunts and out a lung and say "God that makes me hot". Robs the whole dire nature of the thing for me. I like them begging for mercy, screaming in pain and pleading to die. They get no say in the process of their own snuffing. Sounds harsh but the whole thing is fantasy anyway.
 
There's nothing to argue with.

You wrote that at the moment of "fuck you, I'll hurt myself" you should intensify the torture. But the woman may (given the peculiarities of your torture) ask for more to finally pass out or die. However, I meant the moment before the beginning of serious torture.
Initiative doesn't have to be about getting pleasure or about wanting to kill yourself in pain.
And initiative can also be part of the torture. For example, choosing a branding or a dildo.
In your old comics, girls would sometimes show that. Trying to fight back or at least looking rather angrily at the torturer. I like one of your old pictures where a girl with long hair sits in an incredibly complex torture machine and looks at the viewer in surprise.
 
zerns said:
Most girls become meat puppets when your running a cauterizing knife around the perimeter of their sphincter or drilling into bone marrow. That's the goal, jabbering ,slobbering,pleading,mindless, pink jiggling toys experiencing pain to a degree that the only physical response is to scream and thrash. Now to keep them brightly aware during intense mutilation chemicals must be given. Some are used to heighten pain or lessen pain. If a women goes into the "fuck you, I'll hurt myself" mode you escalate the torture to regain control. Maybe eyeball removal or forcing body part eating. Whatever focuses them. But ultimately chemicals are necessary because under deep torture the victim would realistically go into shock likely leading to heart failure. Real torture practice is more about having them feel and see the destruction of their body's. I believe the Saudi's used this technique on the journalist they tortured to death a while back. Peeled the skin and nails from his fingers then cut each one off- all while keeping him alert and watching and screaming. Frankly real torture to real victims is abhorrent . Anyone who is writing fantasy S/M can have their victims react in anyway that gets them off, whether it's probable in reality or not. They can be nailed to a cross while having a post rammed through their cunts and out a lung and say "God that makes me hot". Robs the whole dire nature of the thing for me. I like them begging for mercy, screaming in pain and pleading to die. They get no say in the process of their own snuffing. Sounds harsh but the whole thing is fantasy anyway.
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Agree completely. We know it's fantasy so let's enjoy it to the full.
 
Appreciate the thread but we may be on the same page but looking at different of plot and character needs. The variations of fictional story telling allow many actions and directions. I chose the action and directions that arouse me and seem logical to my view of what is a realistic. I have in fact done the torture choice, allowing the victim to select one type of torture over another. For example in the 4X story Bunny has a choice to tear off her own clit or be burned if she cannot. I control this plot line and had her clit stubbornly refuse to tear despite her efforts. My intent was to draw a clit bitten off in a plot line showing her struggle and being tortured because she couldn't. Ultimately my stories are about complete control of the victim. An inevitable path. Controlling the abduction,the mind game,the torture devices and the reactions satisfy my goals. Having a moment before real torture begins in which the victim pushes back can layer some reality into a story if the victim is portrayed as brave, or a fighter or who thinks it will help. I usually forgo the "you can't do this to me" or "I have money and can pay" or "when I get out of here your dead" moments. I let them know in a panel or two of broken will that nothing will change the outcome and quickly moving to the screaming desperation and creative torture scenarios. As one of my fans noted I have a tendency to "Rube Goldberg" my torture devices. That is what I like best-female flesh under fantastical torture. Because drawing is labor intensive ( like writing) skipping over the parts not directly related to torture is a time saver. Like my old motto for drawing and reviewing exploitive media- "just the good parts"please. In the end angry faces don't do it for me. BTW in some examples of my old art my commissioners have asked for angry push back from victims but that wouldn't be my way. Surprise can be good though! If you don't mind, while I appreciate your dissection of my work, I would like to move beyond this thread and hope you continue to enjoy what you can in my stories.
 
zerns said:
Aprecio el hilo, pero podemos estar en la misma página pero mirando diferentes necesidades de trama y personajes. Las variaciones de la narración ficticia permiten muchas acciones y direcciones. Elegí la acción y las direcciones que me despiertan y me parecen lógicas a mi visión de lo que es un realismo. De hecho, he hecho la elección de la tortura, permitiendo que la víctima seleccione un tipo de tortura sobre otro. Por ejemplo, en la historia 4X, Bunny tiene la opción de arrancarse el clítoris o quemarse si no puede. Controlo esta trama y su clítoris se negó obstinadamente a rasgarse a pesar de sus esfuerzos. Mi intención era dibujar un clítoris arrancado de un mordisco en una trama que mostrara su lucha y su tortura porque no podía. En última instancia, mis historias tratan sobre el control total de la víctima. Un camino inevitable. Controlando el secuestro, el juego mental, los dispositivos de tortura y las reacciones satisfacen mis objetivos. Tener un momento antes de que comience la tortura real en el que la víctima retrocede puede aportar algo de realidad a una historia si la víctima es retratada como valiente, luchadora o que piensa que ayudará. Por lo general, olvido los momentos de "no puedes hacerme esto" o "tengo dinero y puedo pagar" o "cuando salga de aquí estás muerto". Les hice saber en un panel o dos de voluntad rota que nada cambiará el resultado y me muevo rápidamente a los escenarios de desesperación y tortura creativa. Como señaló uno de mis fanáticos, tengo una tendencia a "Rube Goldberg" mis dispositivos de tortura. Eso es lo que más me gusta: carne femenina bajo torturas fantásticas. Debido a que dibujar requiere mucho trabajo (como escribir), saltarse las partes que no están directamente relacionadas con la tortura es un ahorro de tiempo. Como mi viejo lema para dibujar y revisar medios explotadores: "solo las partes buenas", por favor. Al final, las caras de enfado no me sirven. Por cierto, en algunos ejemplos de mi antiguo arte, mis comisionados han pedido un rechazo enojado de las víctimas, pero ese no sería mi camino. ¡Sin embargo, la sorpresa puede ser buena! Si no le importa, aunque agradezco su disección de mi trabajo, me gustaría ir más allá de este hilo y espero que continúe disfrutando lo que pueda en mis historias.
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very interesting every word of what you write, and to know more about your way of thinking and your methods to get to what you capture, it would be very interesting if you wrote a book as a way of breaking down your work and how you reach the conclusion that drawing and write in each frame of the comics
 
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