On The Recurrence Of Forced Sex Thematics In Roman Crucifixion Art And Literature

[Apostate]

You dont know the crux'attraction of all the crux'girls here ... We've the same interests than you, Apostate !!!

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Messaline, I don't know whether or not you remember Bridgette and Diane, two ladies who were BDSM lifestyle subs, and were branching out into crux. They and their Sirs one fine California day in the early 2000's put on a full blown Crux Scene, which was recorded by the late, great artist DeMullotto, seen below (l-r, Bridgette, Diane, pretty good likenesses by all accounts).

Bridgette told me both she and Diane were very glad they did it and immensely turned on by the experience. And that neither of them would never, ever do it again. Make of this what you will.

So yes, I do know of the attraction of crux for girls, I've known for 15+ years. And there's still a corner of my mind that's a pious altar boy who has never wholly faded, who can't wrap his 10-year-old Catholic worldview around the concepts involved in enjoying crux.

But he hasn't had a vote since Nixon's abbreviated second term. Make of that what you will.

 

[Apostate]

Aren't we allowed to be both?

Hmmm. Naughty and Nice are normally mutually exclusive concepts.

But I think we've all seen compelling evidence over an extended period of time that, at least among the people who hang out here, Naughy and Nice have become mutually inclusive.

Which is a long winded, roundabout, borderline bullshit way of arriving at the answer to your question, which is "Yes."

 

[Eulalia]

'Naughty but Nice' has been the name of several movies, going back to 1927 -
I guess Collegiate Shag (I'm not kidding ) was a bit before your time?
This clip from 'Naughty but Nice' 1939 is a gem:

 

[Apostate]

'Naughty but Nice' has been the name of several movies, going back to 1927 -
I guess Collegiate Shag (I'm not kidding ) was a bit before your time?
This clip from 'Naughty but Nice' 1939 is a gem:

Some observations.

Those dances were more efficient transmission vectors for STDs than those extant today.

I knew forgotten household name Jerry Colonna chiefly through 1930s and 40s Loonie Tunes parodies syndicated on 1960s Saturday morning kids TV shows. Bug's "Greetings, Jerry!" Is a takeoff on Colonna's signature line "Greetings, Gates!" Was startled to finally hear the real Jerry Colonna . . . do an impression of Bugs Bunny.

More later, am pressed for time.

 

[Gibbs505]

Hmmm. Naughty and Nice are normally mutually exclusive concepts.

But I think we've all seen compelling evidence over an extended period of time that, at least among the people who hang out here, Naughy and Nice have become mutually inclusive.

Which is a long winded, roundabout, borderline bullshit way of arriving at the answer to your question, which is "Yes."

Well, naughty and nice both begin with N...

 

[Apostate]

Well, naughty and nice both begin with N...

And iniquity and innocence both begin with I. Say, that's a game the whole family can play!

So I think I'll do a soft segue back to the topic. Sort of a pre-crux soft core sex scene from Kubrick's Spartacus. Jean Simmons did a nude scene with Kirk Douglas, shot but never screened, the footage now lost, alas and likewise dammit.

If memory serves, nobody was later crucified naked, much less Jean Simmons.

 

[messaline]

If memory serves, nobody was later crucified naked, much less Jean Simmons.

Yes, dommage .......

 

[Naraku]

And iniquity and innocence both begin with I. Say, that's a game the whole family can play!

So I think I'll do with a soft segue back to the topic. Sort of a pre-crux soft core sex scene from Kubrick's Spartacus. Jean Simmons did a nude scene with Kirk Douglas, shot but never screened, the footage now lost, alas and likewise dammit.

If memory serves, nobody was later crucified naked, much less Jean Simmons.

Damn, Jean Simmons was hot.
Those scenes could never have been used in the US release in 1960. Maybe they were intended for foreign markets.

The crucifixion scene was quite unrealistic. The crosses were too tall and the slaves were nailed through the hands, tied at the wrist and upper arms, but their legs hung loose.

Interestingly, the same technique was used in a crucifixion in one of the recent Spartacus TV series. I wonder if was a salute to the classic film.

BTW: one this past December 9, Kirk Douglas celebrated his 101st birthday.

 

[Apostate]

BTW: one this past December 9, Kirk Douglas celebrated his 101st birthday.

The hell you say!

It is passing strange when somebody you thought was long gone isn't.

I saw the 1960 Spartacus crucifixions way the heck before I woke up to crux, so I was spared disappointment.

 

[Apostate]

Two that are tangentially on topic.

The first is an early Damian render with which he tried to assuage the disappointment of millions of Xena fans who never got to see Lucy Lawless crucified naked. Here legionaries plan to have their lewd and lascivious way with the Warrior Princess because "there is no pleasure to be had in the drunken soldiery."

I first read that caption a decade and a half ago, and I never have stopped giggling.

The second is new to me, artist unknown, and is weird. A crux/nun porn/LOTR/lesbian BDSM mashup is my best guess.

The floor is open to suggestions as to what the hell is going on.

 

[messaline]

The second is new to me, artist unknown, and is weird. A crux/nun porn/LOTR/lesbian BDSM mashup is my best guess.

Mmmmmmm ! I dont care if she's a nun , but I always had this fantasy of beeing whipped to a cross : that's not only a fantasy, now, we did ...

 

[Apostate]

View attachment 552510 Mmmmmmm ! I dont care if she's a nun , but I always had this fantasy of beeing whipped to a cross : that's not only a fantasy, now, we did ...

I perceive the experience was not a colossal letdown. And I like to visualize it as something like this classic Arcimboldo manip.

 

[Apostate]

I really prefer Ancient Roman trappings, but contemporary crux themed BDSM does have its unseemly charms.

 

[Apostate]

The only trappings here are wood and nails and nudity a touch of contemporary S&M gear. No matter. Two hot manips, unsigned, but the style puts in mind of Melissa and Julie. Maybe Messaline?

 

[Apostate]

It's the essentially the same scene, a crucified girl enduring one of the sexually degrading phases of her ordeal, presented in different media and moods.

Markus's patented, over-the-top, crux-as-orgasmatron spectacle comes off as rather coarse. By contrast the Ascanius render seems graceful, almost elegant.

Both get the unholy job of turning me on done.

 

[Eulalia]

I confess Ascanio does the job for me, as few others could!

 

[messaline]

The only trappings here are wood and nails and nudity a touch of contemporary S&M gear. No matter. Two hot manips, unsigned, but the style puts in mind of Melissa and Julie. Maybe Messaline?

In the 2th pic ? The nailing to her cross ? If it could be !!! ...

 

[Apostate]

I was going to try to stitch these unrelated Xena-themed manips into narrative, but thought the better of it.

The first one doesn't fit into the Warrior Princess mythos at all; if Caesar really tried to compel a pre-crux suck like this, the girls would have bitten that prick's prick right off. But the second manip is worth posting, being one of the better fan wish-fulfillment images of Xena finally crucified naked.

But a before and after "forced sex thematic?"

Um, no.

 

[Eulalia]

The first one doesn't fit into the Warrior Princess mythos at all; if Caesar really tried to compel a pre-crux suck like this, the girls would have bitten that prick's prick right off.

Yes it looks more like a biology practical than a suck-off session!

 

[Apostate]

Yes it looks more like a biology practical than a suck-off session!

Eulalia, two questions.

1.) If a biology practical, shouldn't the guy be wearing a lab coat instead of a cuirass?

2.) Where do I sign up for the course?