Burned at the stake

[Doom701]

Interesting. Who painted these pictures for Quoom.
The human body can also be strong. Probably many witches after being tortured went to the fire alive. But many went and dead. For example, from blood loss. The executioner damaged an artery.
And she will die before they burn her. And is it impossible to die from pain shock. The heart can't take it. And that's all.
Of course they were innocent, because witchcraft does not exist. The just dark ages were .

 

[happyribbed]

Interesting. Who painted these pictures for Quoom.
The human body can also be strong. Probably many witches after being tortured went to the fire alive. But many went and dead. For example, from blood loss. The executioner damaged an artery.
And she will die before they burn her. And is it impossible to die from pain shock. The heart can't take it. And that's all.
Of course they were innocent, because witchcraft does not exist. The just dark ages were .

Yes, I agree with you.
For the sake of this forum and the spectators in the dark ages we only can hope that the executioners were skilful enough to prevent an early death. And an unscathed body was surely more pleasant to watch
And regarding those poor victims who died during torture or committed suicide during trial: another missed opportunity for a carnival like event

 

[happyribbed]

Absolutely agree. This story is one of Quoom’s best, and not just because it is one of the few that he finished.

Yes, really sad That Quoom has so many unfinished stories. Wish he had created more of those endings

 

[Doom701]

Continuation of this series. The process continues.
The fire hasn't done much damage yet. But be sure. The author will show us everything

 

[Zorf24]

Historically, this has been the case. There is no doubt about this. But from such torture, the victim could die before the burning began. If they pulled out whole pieces of meat. And, perhaps, after such torture, they burned the corpse of a woman. I wonder what the local ruler did with the executioners then?

trauma you can die from is very easy, but trauma you can die from immediately is much harder. no doubt the damage done would be enough to kill if left for a significant amount of time, but done before an execution it wouldn't be too likely.

the real risk is that while certain types of pain can be inflicted without risk of the victim passing out too readily, others would cause it almost immediately. you'd want to avoid those.

 

[Doom701]

trauma you can die from is very easy, but trauma you can die from immediately is much harder. no doubt the damage done would be enough to kill if left for a significant amount of time, but done before an execution it wouldn't be too likely.

the real risk is that while certain types of pain can be inflicted without risk of the victim passing out too readily, others would cause it almost immediately. you'd want to avoid those.

Well, they tortured her very terribly.
If you hurt the artery on the thigh for example. Or pierced the uterus. That's all.
An earl or duke and his wife who expected to see a wonderful concert would hear nothing. I think they would be very angry then.

 

[Zorf24]

Well, they tortured her very terribly.
If you hurt the artery on the thigh for example. Or pierced the uterus. That's all.
An earl or duke and his wife who expected to see a wonderful concert would hear nothing. I think they would be very angry then.

if you just left her tied to the ladder, she would probably be dead by the end of the day, but she's not going to die right there. burnings take anywhere from a half hour to an hour or so. this woman seems to have been very slowly lowered, so i'm assuming it's probably closer to the latter. either way, she wasn't in danger of dying in that short amount of time.

 

[Doom701]

if you just left her tied to the ladder, she would probably be dead by the end of the day, but she's not going to die right there. burnings take anywhere from a half hour to an hour or so. this woman seems to have been very slowly lowered, so i'm assuming it's probably closer to the latter. either way, she wasn't in danger of dying in that short amount of time.

I am not a doctor. But if the femoral artery is pierced, then after some time there will be a loss of consciousness. After all, it needs to be fixed, raised, and then lowered again. Perhaps medieval executioners were good anatomists. It's scary to torture the victim for hours, and even so that in the final she was conscious and felt everything.

 

[Eva Inanna]

It brings to mind the way beef is barbequed in South America. In the Argentinean Pampas, carcases are roasted for a few hours on a spit, at an angle, resulting in a delicious “asado.” In future, after seeing these Quoom drawings, I would enjoy the Patagonian asado with the additional joy of daydreaming it is a "sapiens" like I, rather than a "bovine"...

 

[Nobbes25]

Last night in a unknow city

 

[happyribbed]

Nice art.
But sooo many at the same time... if burned one by one entertainment would last longer

 

[happyribbed]

I am not a doctor. But if the femoral artery is pierced, then after some time there will be a loss of consciousness. After all, it needs to be fixed, raised, and then lowered again. Perhaps medieval executioners were good anatomists. It's scary to torture the victim for hours, and even so that in the final she was conscious and felt everything.

Usually executioners were good anatomists. It sounds unbelievable but in the 17th and early 18th century they received even visits from sick people (who couldn’t afford visiting doctors and pharmacists).

The executioner’s duty was not only to torture during which he had to ensure fatal injuries were avoided. His duty was also to treat the delinquents after torture. That purpose was to make them fit again for the next torture or the trial. He was capable to treat wounds, injuries, burns, bruises, dislocated joins and broken bones. (Source: https://www.doctors.today/a/medizingeschichte-sprechstunde-beim-henker-1868464)

Bad luck little skinny woman: the torture before execution won’t spare you the pain of being burned alive.

 

[youna18]

hmmm... burning on the stack excites me.... I would like to ask a question in the forum... but I do not know if this question was already a topic....it is often to read how the flames dance around the girl... how her skin melts and that only bones remain... but does anyone know exactly how the combustion process works? what burns when? what burns last? what is left? is it really just bones? or ash?

 

[Doom701]

hmmm... burning on the stack excites me.... I would like to ask a question in the forum... but I do not know if this question was already a topic....it is often to read how the flames dance around the girl... how her skin melts and that only bones remain... but does anyone know exactly how the combustion process works? what burns when? what burns last? what is left? is it really just bones? or ash?

In this Quoom series, the author perfectly showed the process. In detail. The following pictures will clearly show how everything happens.
I don't think they had enough heat to burn her to ashes. Most likely, a blackened corpse remained. And bones were visible in places. But it is not exactly.

 

[Doom701]

Continuation of the series. The author begins to show how fire affects the female body. The executioners will gradually lower the ladder down so that the fire burns the woman more. Slow roasting to death is not planned. She will be burnt alive. Precisely burned

 

[Zorf24]

hmmm... burning on the stack excites me.... I would like to ask a question in the forum... but I do not know if this question was already a topic....it is often to read how the flames dance around the girl... how her skin melts and that only bones remain... but does anyone know exactly how the combustion process works? what burns when? what burns last? what is left? is it really just bones? or ash?

well, "burn" isn't as accurate really as much as "disintegrate." fat does burn, as does hair, but it's not enough for a person to actually burst into flames.

what will happen first is that the skin will begin to char and burn away. before it can be destroyed completely, the fat from inside will rise to the surface and begin bursting our of the skin. at this point, toe and fingernails will completely melt. eventually, the heat will become so great that bones will begin to explode.

eventually, the flames will reach the torso and organs will begin to shift and expand and eventually will burst through the belly/groin. areas like the rear end and breasts will pop, and the fat will leak. hair will ignite and eyes will melt. the victim will finally die as they begin to inhale toxic gases that will seer the lungs, and the victim will effectively drown.

a bonfire burning could be done in a few minutes, but they would usually be kept far smaller and last far longer. gifted executioners could keep the victim burning for an hour or more. through the entire process, the body will enter a sort of thermal shock and the victim will be unable to pass out, as the body is interested only in getting out of the flames, rather than regulating the pain. this will cause extreme panic and heightened awareness, meaning that the victim will experience an absolutely overwhelming amount of pain before death finally comes.

 

[happyribbed]

hmmm... burning on the stack excites me.... I would like to ask a question in the forum... but I do not know if this question was already a topic....it is often to read how the flames dance around the girl... how her skin melts and that only bones remain... but does anyone know exactly how the combustion process works? what burns when? what burns last? what is left? is it really just bones? or ash?

Of what I understand the human body is not easily to combust. Remember that the body contains roughly 60% water.
Watching a human body until it’s completely burned to ashes does not only need a lot of patience and wood. Imagining Zorf’s description above there might be many air-sickness-bags required. Also do not forget the exorbitantly bad smell: during burning times there were citizens complaining about the horrible stench coming from the stakes. Some cities moved the burnings out of town towards a place next to the gallows due to the bad smell lingering there for days.
There’s a lot information around about cause of death of people being burned alive, less so what burns first or last as you have asked.
As plentiful as the different ways in which the execution method “to be burned alive” had been carried out, as plentiful were the causes of death.

Privileged were those who passed out and died within minutes from smoke inhalation. This happened when the victim was placed within a large pile of straw and brushwood.

Less fortune were those who felt the heat of the rising hot air and flames until the superheated air destroyed their lungs - likely as Zorf mentions drowned due to burned lung cells. This happened when placed directly above a large fire. This death struggle could take a while… and I assume our little woman of Quoom’s artwork posted above would have died this way. Beware: in some areas it was custom to lower and raise those ill-fated convicts in and out of the flames multiple times. Much to the delight of the audience as this prolonged the agony and struggle of the sinner significantly.

Worst off were those who were burned over a small fire. That could last really a long time until the merciful death relieved them from their suffering. Google names like “Alice Arden”, “Grete Minde” and you will find out hat they had suffered for hours. Another (German) report about the execution of “Prista Frühbottin” and her accomplices (Wittenberg, 1540) mentions: “were to be smoked and dried for two days… enough time for them to pray… and enough time for the fire to develop it’s cleansing power”. Having been chained to oak stakes they had been placed onto small seats so they wouldn’t die quickly. The spectator and eyewitness comments further: “… they were seated on their seats, a small fire burning underneath their feet and their legs were covered with red and bursting blisters already. All four were moaning and crying pitiful which seemed to please the crowd. The louder their moaning the happier the spectators…”

 

[Doom701]

Terrible death. Probably, with the proper experience of the executioners, the most cruel execution

 

[Doom701]

Continuation of the series. Area affected by fire increased. There is nothing left of the skin in front

 

[youna18]

well, "burn" isn't as accurate really as much as "disintegrate." fat does burn, as does hair, but it's not enough for a person to actually burst into flames.

what will happen first is that the skin will begin to char and burn away. before it can be destroyed completely, the fat from inside will rise to the surface and begin bursting our of the skin. at this point, toe and fingernails will completely melt. eventually, the heat will become so great that bones will begin to explode.

eventually, the flames will reach the torso and organs will begin to shift and expand and eventually will burst through the belly/groin. areas like the rear end and breasts will pop, and the fat will leak. hair will ignite and eyes will melt. the victim will finally die as they begin to inhale toxic gases that will seer the lungs, and the victim will effectively drown.

a bonfire burning could be done in a few minutes, but they would usually be kept far smaller and last far longer. gifted executioners could keep the victim burning for an hour or more. through the entire process, the body will enter a sort of thermal shock and the victim will be unable to pass out, as the body is interested only in getting out of the flames, rather than regulating the pain. this will cause extreme panic and heightened awareness, meaning that the victim will experience an absolutely overwhelming amount of pain before death finally comes.

Of what I understand the human body is not easily to combust. Remember that the body contains roughly 60% water.
Watching a human body until it’s completely burned to ashes does not only need a lot of patience and wood. Imagining Zorf’s description above there might be many air-sickness-bags required. Also do not forget the exorbitantly bad smell: during burning times there were citizens complaining about the horrible stench coming from the stakes. Some cities moved the burnings out of town towards a place next to the gallows due to the bad smell lingering there for days.
There’s a lot information around about cause of death of people being burned alive, less so what burns first or last as you have asked.
As plentiful as the different ways in which the execution method “to be burned alive” had been carried out, as plentiful were the causes of death.

Privileged were those who passed out and died within minutes from smoke inhalation. This happened when the victim was placed within a large pile of straw and brushwood.

Less fortune were those who felt the heat of the rising hot air and flames until the superheated air destroyed their lungs - likely as Zorf mentions drowned due to burned lung cells. This happened when placed directly above a large fire. This death struggle could take a while… and I assume our little woman of Quoom’s artwork posted above would have died this way. Beware: in some areas it was custom to lower and raise those ill-fated convicts in and out of the flames multiple times. Much to the delight of the audience as this prolonged the agony and struggle of the sinner significantly.

Worst off were those who were burned over a small fire. That could last really a long time until the merciful death relieved them from their suffering. Google names like “Alice Arden”, “Grete Minde” and you will find out hat they had suffered for hours. Another (German) report about the execution of “Prista Frühbottin” and her accomplices (Wittenberg, 1540) mentions: “were to be smoked and dried for two days… enough time for them to pray… and enough time for the fire to develop it’s cleansing power”. Having been chained to oak stakes they had been placed onto small seats so they wouldn’t die quickly. The spectator and eyewitness comments further: “… they were seated on their seats, a small fire burning underneath their feet and their legs were covered with red and bursting blisters already. All four were moaning and crying pitiful which seemed to please the crowd. The louder their moaning the happier the spectators…”

wow thank you Zorf24 and happyribbed for your detailed reply... the descriptions scare.... but they also excite....hmmm....
I will try to read a lot more about it...
I have often played with the flame of a candle... the pain is "shrill", "sharp", "destructive" it is difficult to find the right words...
the panic that a girl has knowing that she will be burned the next day must be gigantic.... thanks again for your descriptions