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Of course. La schiava di Ostia


The story of a poor young girl sold to a rich merchant, but she falls in love with a handsome lad who is a fisher. They are too poor to run away together, so she robs her rich master, but is betrayed (there is a very touching aria at this point - Oh amore mio, sono tradito; salvami). She is taken to the dungeons where she is mercilessly flogged by three comedic jailors (all tenors) who sing a soaring trio (Con gusto ti puniamo per i tuoi crimini, uno due tre, ehi nonno, no) , with soprano counterpoint (mostly screams, actually). The fishing lad storms the jail to rescue his beloved slave girl, but just as he gets to her cell, he is killed. There is a tragic lamentation aria (Il mio ragazzo pescatore è morto; il mio cuore è spezzato). The governor of the jail arrives and sings a basso condemnatory aria (Alla croce con questa schiava bella e tuttavia malvagia), after which the full opera chorus sings the grand finale (Quando l'amore sarà morto, crocifiggimi, perché non posso vivere fino al mattino) as the slave girl is crucified. As the chorus ends and the sun rises, she expires at the rising sun, and the curtain comes down.

It's an opera - people don't get out of them alive. :rolleyes: :cool:

(And my deepest apologies to real Italian speakers for the liberal use of Google Translate in this post. Mi scuso per l'utilizzo di Google Translate per questo post.)
OMG ... so many good ideas ... music to my brain! :band:
 
It seenm that AI does not allow for the moment complexe torture-situations, only some stripes and nailing. Nothing compared to Quoom or Arcas..
 
It seenm that AI does not allow for the moment complexe torture-situations, only some stripes and nailing. Nothing compared to Quoom or Arcas..
Complex situations are - as the word suggests - complex to create. If you expect AI to generate the entire image in one step, complex torture is not possible. However, you can do this in a multi-step approach using Controlnet, Inpaint, Image Blending and certain LORAs, it is just very labor intensive and takes time. My conversions of ancient paintings already take 4-8 hours of work per image... say if you have 20 hours to invest, you can do Quoom and Arcas ...

I can do a SkatingJesus style. I once created a LORA for it. It is not public since the source images are not public, but in theory - and when the waiting time until his publishing of the next Andaroos chapter gets too long - I can entertain myself with generating similar images in one step. Mostly the Natasha scenes ... but cannot create a consistent story like SkatingJesus does, just single pictures ... Someone could similiary do a Quoom style or Arcas style LORA ...
 
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Let's get back to crucifixion ...

Starting point for this work was the image on page 4 in https://pfarre-sulzberg.at/wp-content/uploads/Hauskirche-Karfreitag-Kreuzweg-2022.pdf depicting the 4th Station of the Cross. Unfortunately I do not have any information about the original author of the painting, only about the authors of the leaflet. The image looks like an ancient painting, and my guess is that it belongs to some cloister of some church somewhere in Europe. Details are unclear.

Now here is my oil painting version of station 4 in HD size:

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To explain the process of AI conversion, here is a sequence of intermediate pictures generated along the way. It starts on the left with the original picture and ends on the right with my final result. Small resolution but very wide. Sorry if such a wide picture does not show well on small smartphone displays, please look at it in a computer with decent wide sceen monitor:

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Each of the pictures shows a stage where substantial manual work needed to be done. From left to right:

  1. leftmost is the original picture that was the starting point
  2. next is the crucial step to decide which person becomes female and which stays male. Very often, the AI converts too many males into females.
  3. the process of undressing the woman starts
  4. at the forth picture, I noticed that the AI has difficulties to recognize the cross due to the low contrast of the whipper's clothes to the cross. So I made his pants green.
  5. the fifth picture is the result before the detail work starts. I use inpaint seldom. While all the previous pictures are worked at 1280x720, I now increase the resolution to 3840x2160, cut out some image details, each no larger than 1200x1200 and let the AI work on them. That's when the work gets very time-intensive. For instance, that's when the whip gets introduced, the final positioning of the chains are fixed and so on.
  6. the 6th to 8th image show the work on the face of the woman, to get specific facial expressions.
There are at the end specific steps to sharpen the image and to balance the final resolution, since when the detail excepts are placed together, they might have different pixel resolutions. But I left them out in this sequence since you would not be able to see those effects due to the shrinked size of the sequence picture.
 
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In general, the software is Stable Diffusion running locally on my computer (big graphic card). I use SDXL models - yes, I know Flux is better, but I have the needed LORAs only in SDXL. I use my own LORA for the female character at weight 1, Wowifier LORA at weight 0.4 for the better partial nudity, crowd_notrigger at weight 0.3 for the background people.

LORA = kind of a model plugin that teaches the base AI model about new concepts, e.g. that a crowd of people is more than just 2 persons.

Stable diffusion needs a prompt, i.e. a description what should be in the picture. For instance: "Amazing artwork, captivating digital art, oil painting, full body view, 1girl ..."
Stable diffusion has different modes, e.g. you can generate an image from the prompt alone (txt2img) or you can generate a similar image based on a previous image (img2img).

I use img2img a lot. This means I start with a picture found on the net (for instance a heroic :smile: renaissance oil painting) and tell the AI what I want to have changed, e.g. that the main subject is female, and generate a new image. The first shot is seldomly satisfying, hence I take the new image as new input and generate a second generation image ... and so on ... until I get what I want. Sometimes I help the AI by just drawing a sketch into the image and then let the AI regenerate my sketch in more artistic style. Sometimes I do batch generation of 100 images just to find the one where, say, the hands or the face look best.

At the end, I have plenty of generated images of the same scene. I merge them together via a Photo Editor, say, from one picture, I take the face, from another picture the left hand, right hand, feet and so on. The blended image goes through the AI one final time with low denoise ratio (< 0.3) to give it the final touch. At the end there are steps to sharpen the image and to enlarge it to the desired size.
Can I ask you what tool did you use to create and train your LoRa?
 
You do great work. I need to get hip on how to create a LORA. I'd like to create/find one on bodypiles and galley slaves. I can't find either on civitai
I would not know how to do a LORA on galley slaves, simply because there are not enough high quality pictures out there on galley slaves. Since I did one galley slave scene, I really did search a lot and could not find any of satisfying quality. Picture selection is the most important step when creating a LORA. I used ca 300 high quality consistent pictures for my other LORAs.

If you use those old strange photoshopped galley slave picture creations from the cruxform galley thread as input of your LORA, your output will look strangely photoshopped. If you use the 3D generated stuff, your result looks 3D. Quality in means quality out! So you really should start with the highest quality consistent image set that you can get your hands on. The very best to get a consistent quality photorealistic LORA is if you are a professional photographer yourself, take your 100-300 pictures, postprocess them in LightRoom and then create a LORA out of it. Or if you want a painting style LORA, it really does help if you can paint yourself, then paint paint paint ... and then make a LORA.

From my search: I liked the galley slaves created by chainman (https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12175770 and https://subscribestar.adult/chain-man) with his easy recognizable drawing style, but it is only 4-5 pictures, not the >100 that I would need for a LORA.

But don't get discouraged ... it is a learning process ... my very first LORA was based on 5 pictures of myself ... with horrendous resullts :buenrollo:
 
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I would not know how to do a LORA on galley slaves, simply because there are not enough high quality pictures out there on galley slaves. Since I did one galley slave scene, I really did search a lot and could not find any of satisfying quality. Picture selection is the most important step when creating a LORA. I used ca 300 high quality consistent pictures for my other LORAs.

If you use those old strange photoshopped galley slave picture creations from the cruxform galley thread as input of your LORA, your output will look strangely photoshopped. If you use the 3D generated stuff, your result looks 3D. Quality in means quality out! So you really should start with the highest quality consistent image set that you can get your hands on. The very best to get a consistent quality photorealistic LORA is if you are a professional photographer yourself, take your 100-300 pictures, postprocess them in LightRoom and then create a LORA out of it. Or if you want a painting style LORA, it really does help if you can paint yourself, then paint paint paint ... and then make a LORA.

From my search: I liked the galley slaves created by chainman (https://rule34.xxx/index.php?page=post&s=view&id=12175770 and https://subscribestar.adult/chain-man) with his easy recognizable drawing style, but it is only 4-5 pictures, not the >100 that I would need for a LORA.

But don't get discouraged ... it is a learning process ... my very first LORA was based on 5 pictures of myself ... with horrendous resullts :buenrollo:
Thanks! Is there a tool or set of instructions you recommend for creating a LORA? I'm sure I can find one on youtube I suspect!
 
Today something silly: this beautiful Disney princess got lost in the jungle and was captured by a jungle tribe who stripped her naked and tied her to a cross. She is a bit angry about that, after all she is a princess, she should have servants that worship her ... but the tribe has other plans with her.

Technical: When we start with AI, this is what we can get entirely out of LORAs in one step text2img, except for the hands. SDXL is still bad with hands, and I heard Flux is better but I did not try out Flux. I converted her hands into fists through additional steps. No complex person settings, no blood, no nails ... since all those would require special attention and are not so easy for the AI.

If you want more of her, just tell, I have some more complex scenes in development!

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Today something silly: this beautiful Disney princess got lost in the jungle and was captured by a jungle tribe who stripped her naked and tied her to a cross. She is a bit angry about that, after all she is a princess, she should have servants that worship her ... but the tribe has other plans with her.



If you want more of her, just tell, I have some more complex scenes in development!

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She look angry. One wonders how she'll feel after a few hours up there!!!
 
"Nobody told you to stop walking!"

The whip cracked into the bare flesh. The soldiers pulled her up by her hair until she began to move again, step by step, under the incredible weight of the cross ...

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Technical: These are AI-generated oil paintings where the starting point was the second picture of @Tmaster 's post https://www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/carrying-the-cross.6713/page-65#post-931967 . This already had the association "Nobody told you to stop walking". Overall, a powerful scene! I converted the all-male scene into a variant with a female protagonist. An even older variant of the all-male scene is Gebhard Fugel's painting that was originally in St. Joseph church in Munich, painted in 1907: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/...oseph_München_3_Fall_Jesu_unter_dem_Kreuz.jpg

Note that the general composition as well as the position of the soldier with the whip and the person lifting the cross remain the same in Flugel's painting, @Tmaster's post and my own variants. I had the feeling the head of the victim gets too big due to the male-to-female conversion, so I tried a second variant where the soldier pulls her head up.

No, those gentlemen are not singing an opera! :razz: They are supposed to shout angrily ... whatever the AI thinks how angry soldiers would look like ... But if this inspires someone to write another opera plot again, that’s okay. :smile: Or tell me a better intro text (scene description text), since I am really bad at that.
 
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