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Cam's Camera: Slave Girls
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CamCrux
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Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
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Migoz2
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Is DA about to do a PornHub? That will kill all manips........Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
Crux-Emperor Baracus X
Rectidolor
@CamCrux You're better off at CruxForums.....at least you can be as explicit as you like,and not be treated like a naughty child.Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
Which person are they talking about? There is more than one there.Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
She doesn't look as though you're thinking of releasing her any time soon...Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
MahaShiva
Magistrate
Looks like they are on to you, Kam. That's how it all started with the demise on my dA account. The kicker is: They ask for model releases, but you will have no way to send them in.Says DA : Your deviation, listed below, has been made temporarily unavailable due to a complaint which raised the question of whether the person depicted in your deviation consented to the public display of their likeness in your gallery and therefore we require a Model Release to be provided.
No model release shall be provided, and therefore the picture will now be hosted by Crux Forums - unless deemed inappropriate of course
When they tagged three of my pieces for model releases, two of them starred Wendy010 on dA and E-DigitalFantasy (with one of his models), who had both happily given me permission to use their images (so I guess it was the ISIS fighters and black bears in the background who filed the complaints). Naturally for those two pieces it wasn't hard to obtain the releases. However, to submit said releases you have to click on the "Edit" button next to the pic in your gallery, and since the pic has been made temporarily available and you cannot access it...yep, they got you for sure.
spanking is available on request
Crux-Emperor Baracus X
Rectidolor
Oh,yes PLEASE....!!spanking is available on request
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E-DigitalFantasy
Tribune
My question also. It’s probably the faceless model with his back to us. I don’t believe DA even reads rebuttals on their take downs. I had 20 pics taken down after I was banned for what they classified as “explicit sexual content.” There was no sexual content at all.Which person are they talking about? There is more than one there.
CamCrux
Magistrate
The story is by my muse Keigera of DA, the picture (a fairly simple manipulation) is mine.
My name is Velia. My friend was Spurie. I must say that our parents were friends and we were good friends all our lives. From childhood. He is a wonderful person. He helped and protected me more than once, and I treated him like a brother. Our parents even thought that we would become husband and wife, and I began to notice that lately he looked at me differently. But my heart remained the same. For me he is like a brother and I cannot love him otherwise. If my parents order, of course I will become his wife, but ... But the war with Rome changed everything.
It is a woman's duty to keep the hearth. It is a man's duty to protect her. The man is the head and he is right in everything. All my life I have been taught to respect and honor the male warrior. Respect for the laws of war. Admiration for the military prowess of a man. I absorbed this philosophy with my mother's milk and it became a part of me.
The scout who found me with my friend, an Etruscan warrior, was not frightened. Nor was my friend a coward, who did not abandon his shield and sword at the sight of the enemy. He rushed into the fight defending me and I would be lying if I said that I did not cry when he fell under the sword of the Roman scout. I sobbed over his body and looked into the eyes of the grinning winner and felt hatred for him and panic. But the gods were on his side and he had won in a fair fight, and I had to respect the law of war, no matter how painful I felt and no matter how offended I was. Mars patronizes men. War is not a woman's business and warriors do not fight women. I had to submit to force and let him tie me up. I also didn’t resist because I understood that it was pointless. Despite my hatred for him, I was his rightful prey.
The man was glad of the trophy and showed kindness, did not offend me and even allowed me to mourn my dead friend. The route was long. We were silent for a long time. I was in a state of shock. Having come to our senses a little and calmed down, we started talking. I told him about myself and my past. He said that he was very lucky to have caught such a beautiful girl as me, that my friend was a real man and as it seemed to him, I should be glad that I was captured by a real warrior, and not a weakling and a coward.
In the camp of the slave traders, I begged him to keep me for himself, but he did not, since he really needed money to give gifts to his wife and daughter. I was scared, but I could not expect anything else. I had to come to terms with my captor's decision. After which I was sent to Rome. And now, being in the slave market, remembering the circumstances of my capture, I look at the girls standing in front of me, immensely amazed at how pitiful they are, in their fear. Despite the bitterness of my position as a slave, I am glad that I am the trophy of a mighty warrior, not a coward. Whatever fate prepares for me, I will accept it with the humility of a loser. That's how I was raised.
My name is Velia. My friend was Spurie. I must say that our parents were friends and we were good friends all our lives. From childhood. He is a wonderful person. He helped and protected me more than once, and I treated him like a brother. Our parents even thought that we would become husband and wife, and I began to notice that lately he looked at me differently. But my heart remained the same. For me he is like a brother and I cannot love him otherwise. If my parents order, of course I will become his wife, but ... But the war with Rome changed everything.
It is a woman's duty to keep the hearth. It is a man's duty to protect her. The man is the head and he is right in everything. All my life I have been taught to respect and honor the male warrior. Respect for the laws of war. Admiration for the military prowess of a man. I absorbed this philosophy with my mother's milk and it became a part of me.
The scout who found me with my friend, an Etruscan warrior, was not frightened. Nor was my friend a coward, who did not abandon his shield and sword at the sight of the enemy. He rushed into the fight defending me and I would be lying if I said that I did not cry when he fell under the sword of the Roman scout. I sobbed over his body and looked into the eyes of the grinning winner and felt hatred for him and panic. But the gods were on his side and he had won in a fair fight, and I had to respect the law of war, no matter how painful I felt and no matter how offended I was. Mars patronizes men. War is not a woman's business and warriors do not fight women. I had to submit to force and let him tie me up. I also didn’t resist because I understood that it was pointless. Despite my hatred for him, I was his rightful prey.
The man was glad of the trophy and showed kindness, did not offend me and even allowed me to mourn my dead friend. The route was long. We were silent for a long time. I was in a state of shock. Having come to our senses a little and calmed down, we started talking. I told him about myself and my past. He said that he was very lucky to have caught such a beautiful girl as me, that my friend was a real man and as it seemed to him, I should be glad that I was captured by a real warrior, and not a weakling and a coward.
In the camp of the slave traders, I begged him to keep me for himself, but he did not, since he really needed money to give gifts to his wife and daughter. I was scared, but I could not expect anything else. I had to come to terms with my captor's decision. After which I was sent to Rome. And now, being in the slave market, remembering the circumstances of my capture, I look at the girls standing in front of me, immensely amazed at how pitiful they are, in their fear. Despite the bitterness of my position as a slave, I am glad that I am the trophy of a mighty warrior, not a coward. Whatever fate prepares for me, I will accept it with the humility of a loser. That's how I was raised.
The story and picture work well together in this latest collaboration between Keigera and yourself, Kam.
HBO screenshots are proving popular as convincing backgrounds for Roman era manips, and you have used them in previous work. I'm not certain if this one is from 'Spartacus' and I cannot identify the nearest blonde girl on the left. I believe she is the one portraying Velia. Her companion looks like Jasmine Andreas - a model who previously appeared in @Wragg 's crux tale from the ancient Roman period, 'The Illustrated Chronicle of the Lady Jasmine' -
The Illustrated Chronicle of the Lady Jasmine
This thread is dedicated to my friend Repertor. Some of you may remember my story 'Jasmine' which, completely out of the blue, Repertor began to illustrate using computer renders. They were superb, but hard work for both Repertor and his computer. He needed a break, but always intended to...
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The scale and perspective of the inserted figures is very convincing, especially considering the challenge presented by the low viewpoint. Nice work, Kam!
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CamCrux
Magistrate
Thanks Bob. The background photo is a scene from Spartacus, while the blonde model on the left is known as Delizi. She also starred in my picture entitled The Tribute. Unfortunately I have lost the name of the one behind her.The story and picture work well together in this latest collaboration between Keigera and yourself, Kam.
HBO screenshots are proving popular as convincing backgrounds for Roman era manips, and you have used them in previous work. I'm not certain if this one is from 'Spartacus' and I cannot identify the nearest blonde girl on the left. I believe she is the one portraying Velia. Her companion looks like Jasmine Andreas - a model who previously appeared in @Wragg 's crux tale from the ancient Roman period, 'The Illustrated Chronicle of the Lady Jasmine' -
The Illustrated Chronicle of the Lady Jasmine
This thread is dedicated to my friend Repertor. Some of you may remember my story 'Jasmine' which, completely out of the blue, Repertor began to illustrate using computer renders. They were superb, but hard work for both Repertor and his computer. He needed a break, but always intended to...www.cruxforums.com
The scale and perspective of the inserted figures is very convincing, especially considering the challenge presented by the low viewpoint. Nice work, Kam!
Thanks for the information, Kam. I can see now that Delizi is the same model who previously appeared in 'The Tribute' -
Cam's Camera: Slave Girls
I'm kamerijk on DeviantArt. Due to recent developmemnts over there I'm going to load my pics here on CF where I have friends, without leaving DA, for the mome,nt at least. This is a first batch of 5 ... Welcome here, kamerijk. We have certainly seen some of your work and are very happy you...
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Interestingly, there is an inadvertent Scottish influence in your picture. Not only does the presence of Scottish actor John Hannah indicate the 'Spartacus' origins which you have noted, but the latest consensus confirms a positive identification for your second girl as the Scottish (Greco-Caledonian) model and Cruxton starlet, Jasmine Andreas.
Cruxton Abbey
Some of the maids (and the guests) would disappear for hours before emerging from secluded parts of the grounds, usually in a rather dishevelled state... ;) (Image hosted on DeviantArt - https://www.deviantart.com/bobnearled/art/The-Wild-Flower-Meadow-at-Cruxton-Abbey-1-827977953 ) Another...
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CamCrux
Magistrate
Thanks again Bob, of course Jasmine AThanks for the information, Kam. I can see now that Delizi is the same model who previously appeared in 'The Tribute' -
Cam's Camera: Slave Girls
I'm kamerijk on DeviantArt. Due to recent developmemnts over there I'm going to load my pics here on CF where I have friends, without leaving DA, for the mome,nt at least. This is a first batch of 5 ... Welcome here, kamerijk. We have certainly seen some of your work and are very happy you...www.cruxforums.com
Interestingly, there is an inadvertent Scottish influence in your picture. Not only does the presence of Scottish actor John Hannah indicate the 'Spartacus' origins which you have noted, but the latest consensus confirms a positive identification for your second girl as the Scottish (Greco-Caledonian) model and Cruxton starlet, Jasmine Andreas.
Cruxton Abbey
Some of the maids (and the guests) would disappear for hours before emerging from secluded parts of the grounds, usually in a rather dishevelled state... ;) (Image hosted on DeviantArt - https://www.deviantart.com/bobnearled/art/The-Wild-Flower-Meadow-at-Cruxton-Abbey-1-827977953 ) Another...www.cruxforums.com
CamCrux
Magistrate
Another of our cooperative endeavours. The story is by Keigera, the picture by me.
The background painting is by Rudolf Ernst : Two Warriors in the Alhambra Palace
I have spent all my life on the island of Gozo. Those were happy times. Once the island was inhabited by the Arabs, until the Christians drove them away. From then on, the islands were often attacked by pirates until the Knights of St. John took them under their protection. With the arrival of the Hospitallers, the attacks subsided. The order amazed me. I became even more imbued with faith and even thought about becoming a nun.
All my plans were destroyed by the return of the Saracens, under the leadership of the real devil-captain Dragut, who attacked Malta in 1551 from the birth of Christ. The news of their attack came to us very quickly. Our Governor Gelatian de Sessa immediately called all the inhabitants of the island under the protection of the Citadel, where we took refuge. We reassured ourselves with the thought that the Ottomans, having suffered defeat, would immediately go home, but no one expected that their anger from failure would fall on the neighboring island. Our island of Gozo.
A long and tedious siege began. The roar of the guns never stopped. Fear pervaded us, hiding behind the flimsy walls of the Citadel. Only occasionally, in a moment of calm, could I get enough sleep, and every morning I got up with the thought that this day would be my last and prayed to the Lord to keep me alive and drive the heathens away. I was frightened by the thought that I might end up like the daughter of Bernardo Dupuo, killed by her own father, who was afraid that she might be caught by the Ottomans. I longed to live.
When silence returned, I, like everyone else, hoped that the Ottomans had left. To our great regret, this lull testified to the surrender of the Citadel. The hope that they would spare us was also dispelled by the news that the entire population of the island would be taken into slavery. They were going to take me into slavery! This unbearable thought pushed me to action. I wanted to escape. Together with several people, under cover of night we tried to escape from the citadel, going down the wall. Many succeeded. Many, but not me. When we were discovered, I realized that it was the end and finally surrendered along with the remaining five thousand inhabitants of the island.
I remember the rest as if in a dream. An agonizing boat trip, then a terrifying journey under the scorching sun at Tarhuna Wa Msalata. Many were lucky and were able to find and redeem them. Others were unlucky and remained slaves. The third in the mines got even worse.
At the slave market in Tripoli I was bought by a prominent and wealthy city nobleman. I know I'll never see home again. I know that all that remains for me is to share a bed with my master or dance, delighting his eyes with my beauty. After a whole year, I have already resigned myself and got used to it. The main thing is I am alive ...
The background painting is by Rudolf Ernst : Two Warriors in the Alhambra Palace
I have spent all my life on the island of Gozo. Those were happy times. Once the island was inhabited by the Arabs, until the Christians drove them away. From then on, the islands were often attacked by pirates until the Knights of St. John took them under their protection. With the arrival of the Hospitallers, the attacks subsided. The order amazed me. I became even more imbued with faith and even thought about becoming a nun.
All my plans were destroyed by the return of the Saracens, under the leadership of the real devil-captain Dragut, who attacked Malta in 1551 from the birth of Christ. The news of their attack came to us very quickly. Our Governor Gelatian de Sessa immediately called all the inhabitants of the island under the protection of the Citadel, where we took refuge. We reassured ourselves with the thought that the Ottomans, having suffered defeat, would immediately go home, but no one expected that their anger from failure would fall on the neighboring island. Our island of Gozo.
A long and tedious siege began. The roar of the guns never stopped. Fear pervaded us, hiding behind the flimsy walls of the Citadel. Only occasionally, in a moment of calm, could I get enough sleep, and every morning I got up with the thought that this day would be my last and prayed to the Lord to keep me alive and drive the heathens away. I was frightened by the thought that I might end up like the daughter of Bernardo Dupuo, killed by her own father, who was afraid that she might be caught by the Ottomans. I longed to live.
When silence returned, I, like everyone else, hoped that the Ottomans had left. To our great regret, this lull testified to the surrender of the Citadel. The hope that they would spare us was also dispelled by the news that the entire population of the island would be taken into slavery. They were going to take me into slavery! This unbearable thought pushed me to action. I wanted to escape. Together with several people, under cover of night we tried to escape from the citadel, going down the wall. Many succeeded. Many, but not me. When we were discovered, I realized that it was the end and finally surrendered along with the remaining five thousand inhabitants of the island.
I remember the rest as if in a dream. An agonizing boat trip, then a terrifying journey under the scorching sun at Tarhuna Wa Msalata. Many were lucky and were able to find and redeem them. Others were unlucky and remained slaves. The third in the mines got even worse.
At the slave market in Tripoli I was bought by a prominent and wealthy city nobleman. I know I'll never see home again. I know that all that remains for me is to share a bed with my master or dance, delighting his eyes with my beauty. After a whole year, I have already resigned myself and got used to it. The main thing is I am alive ...
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Rudolf Ernst (1854-1932) was an Austro-French painter, printmaker and ceramics designer, who specialised in Orientalist themes, depicting mosques, harems and everyday life in North Africa. He travelled through Spain, Morocco, Egypt and Istanbul to observe his subjects at first hand. The same characters and figure poses appear in numerous different paintings, suggesting that whilst the environments are developed from studies made on location, they are populated by models posed in his Paris studio.Another of our cooperative endeavours. The story is by Keigera, the picture by me.
The background painting is by Rudolf Ernst : Two Warriors in the Alhambra Palace
Kam's background source is entitled, 'Two Warriors in the Alhambra Palace, the Court of Lions in the background', which carried an estimate of around half a million pounds sterling when offered in Christie's sale in April 2019 (I do not know the final figure realised at auction). The painting is in oil on a wooden panel, measuring 23 ¼ x 28 ¾ in. This is relatively small considering the level of detail, and in fact Kam's picture expands to larger than actual size with no compromise in clarity. This is a highly detailed painting, full of rich fabrics and furnishings, rendered in brilliant colours and realistic textures.
The seated male evidently stood on the sofa to hang his sabre and dagger from the hook, high up on the wall. He can reach the weapons if needed in a hurry, but now he is preoccupied with a 'relaxing' smoke on his elaborate pipe. His friend is obviously much shorter, and would never have reached the hook, so he is content to wear his sword, stuck through his belt, which is becoming slightly frayed from precisely this habit. Eschewing the pleasures of the pipe, he drinks a cup of tea instead, and now gazes appreciatively at Kam's new model.
The original foreground contains a large area of empty, pink-coloured carpet, which seems to be calling out for a third figure in the composition. Kam has obliged the viewer by providing Keigera's character, dancing elegantly, and captured here in a charming cruciform pose. She is the only inserted component, together with her separately applied, decorative ankle bracelet and the appropriate shadows at her feet, painted subtly to blend with the carpet. Kam has declined to add his motif on this occasion, deferring to the signature of the original artist at lower right.
This is a very neat example of blending, using a figure which has been extracted with commendable precision, and inserted in a manner which is sympathetic to the original work. The lighting and scale of the figure appear consistent with the interior scene, and she is being directly observed by the standing male on the left. Kam will probably insist, with typical modesty, that this is a very quick and simple illustration to Keigera's dramatic story, notwithstanding the degree of care taken over the matching of a compatible figure and background. Yet again, I am unable to identify the model (is this Delizi again?) Nevertheless, this is another excellent collaboration between artist and writer, and a very fine manipulation. Well done, Kam!
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CamCrux
Magistrate
Thanks once again Bob for granting my manipulation so much of your time, attention and indulgence.Rudolf Ernst (1854-1932) was an Austro-French painter, printmaker and ceramics designer, who specialised in Orientalist themes, depicting mosques, harems and everyday life in North Africa. He travelled through Spain, Morocco, Egypt and Istanbul to observe his subjects at first hand. The same characters and figure poses appear in numerous different paintings, suggesting that whilst the environments are developed from studies made on location, they are populated by models posed in his Paris studio.
Kam's background source is entitled, 'Two Warriors in the Alhambra Palace, the Court of Lions in the background', which carried an estimate of around half a million pounds sterling when offered in Christie's sale in April 2019 (I do not know the final figure realised at auction). The painting is in oil on a wooden panel, measuring 23 ¼ x 28 ¾ in. This is relatively small considering the level of detail, and in fact Kam's picture expands to larger than actual size with no compromise in clarity. This is a highly detailed painting, full of rich fabrics and furnishings, rendered in brilliant colours and realistic textures.
The seated male evidently stood on the sofa to hang his sabre and dagger from the hook, high up on the wall. He can reach the weapons if needed in a hurry, but now he is preoccupied with a 'relaxing' smoke on his elaborate pipe. His friend is obviously much shorter, and would never have reached the hook, so he is content to wear his sword, stuck through his belt, which is becoming slightly frayed from precisely this habit. Eschewing the pleasures of the pipe, he drinks a cup of tea instead, and now gazes appreciatively at Kam's new model.
The original foreground contains a large area of empty, pink-coloured carpet, which seems to be calling out for a third figure in the composition. Kam has obliged the viewer by providing Keigera's character, dancing elegantly, and captured here in a charming cruciform pose. She is the only inserted component, together with her separately applied, decorative ankle bracelet and the appropriate shadows at her feet, painted subtly to blend with the carpet. Kam has declined to add his motif on this occasion, deferring to the signature of the original artist at lower right.
This is a very neat example of blending, using a figure which has been extracted with commendable precision, and inserted in a manner which is sympathetic to the original work. The lighting and scale of the figure appear consistent with the interior scene, and she is being directly observed by the standing male on the left. Kam will probably insist, with typical modesty, that this is a very quick and simple illustration to Keigera's dramatic story, notwithstanding the degree of care taken over the matching of a compatible figure and background. Yet again, I am unable to identify the model (is this Delizi again?) Nevertheless, this is another excellent collaboration between artist and writer, and a very fine manipulation. Well done, Kam!
As you remarked it was a fairly simple job of "sticking" the model in the right place and adding some shadowing and the gold ankle bracelet, an ornament and symbol of the girl's submissive position. I wasn't - and still am not - quite sure about the light and what direction the shadow on the ground should go. Light obviously comes in from the Lions' courtyard behind the girl but her body is lit from her left side. I suppose one can imagine another source of light on the right, off the frame.
Keigera's story is entitrely her own inspiration, with some very minor suggestions on my part. She always blends historical facts (in this case the siege of Gozo by the Ottomans in 1551) and her own fantasies of enslavement, with a clear preference for a life of captivity in Africa and/or the desert. I find she does this very convincingly - and she is eager to do more
Unfortunately I can't help with the model's name. She was part of a set of cut-out models that Ossifumetto of DA obligingly gave me some time ago in exchange for some of mine, and the figures are not named. She does look like Delizi to a certain extent. I will ask Ossi if he can help.
CamCrux
Magistrate
The model for the dancing slavegirl is Kinga. Thanks Ossifumetto !Thanks once again Bob for granting my manipulation so much of your time, attention and indulgence.
As you remarked it was a fairly simple job of "sticking" the model in the right place and adding some shadowing and the gold ankle bracelet, an ornament and symbol of the girl's submissive position. I wasn't - and still am not - quite sure about the light and what direction the shadow on the ground should go. Light obviously comes in from the Lions' courtyard behind the girl but her body is lit from her left side. I suppose one can imagine another source of light on the right, off the frame.
Keigera's story is entitrely her own inspiration, with some very minor suggestions on my part. She always blends historical facts (in this case the siege of Gozo by the Ottomans in 1551) and her own fantasies of enslavement, with a clear preference for a life of captivity in Africa and/or the desert. I find she does this very convincingly - and she is eager to do more
Unfortunately I can't help with the model's name. She was part of a set of cut-out models that Ossifumetto of DA obligingly gave me some time ago in exchange for some of mine, and the figures are not named. She does look like Delizi to a certain extent. I will ask Ossi if he can help.