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Imgur will ban nudes from 15 May

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Thanks Malins. I might add that … within reason, mods are generally able to modify/edit members’ posts on request after the grace period has expired. Just ask.
What would be the issue with allowing everyone to modify their own posts without time restrictions?
 
What would be the issue with allowing everyone to modify their own posts without time restrictions?
For me, the simple answer is that it’s overwhelming enough for staff to watch new posts for underage material and a host of other inappropriate things without having to keep watch over changes in older posts as well. As I said above, if members want to make changes to posts, new or old, simply ask staff for assistance.
 
damn i can give a shit...

where the hell do i upload my pictures?! Russian, Chinese, Japanese, American and I don't know what they all have in common! censorship!

Honestly, I have a picture that has a size of 12mb and 4k quality, shrink it to 1mb....that means only one thing (terrible quality)

so there are 2 options at stake.

1. I will charge for my works, and they will be available exclusively and only on Pixie's fanbox (before they also ban it)
2.I will try to find another website to host my images.

I don't see any other option yet..
 
For me, the simple answer is that it’s overwhelming enough for staff to watch new posts for underage material and an host of other inappropriate things without having to keep watch over changes in older posts as well. As I said above, if members want to make changes to posts, new or old, simply ask staff for assistance.
That's fair enough. The main issue is that fewer and fewer external sites are going to be willing to host the kinds of images that appear here on CF. We can all bemoan that, but it's reality. When their payment processor says, "You can't have nudes," they have little choice.

So at some point, CF is going to have to limit itself to member-created images. The site can't be a compendium of the entire internet, especially now that AI can generate infinite numbers of images. Most image sites already do that-pixiv, PixelsInPeril, ArtUntamed all let you post only work you made.
 
As much as I think hosting on CF instead of a 3rd party image sharing site is the way to go, it's not bulletproof; cruxforums has had its share of outages and image losses. For some of the more noteworthy threads, the mods have reattached images and files, but if you go any further back than 2007, you find a pretty image-barren site.

Reallly the destructive a deleterious actions of payment processors need to be addressed. In every case of "censorship over the past ten years, there has been one culprit and one alone. It hasn't been the government, or the woke, or the Christians. It's been payment processors and slimy ad-driven sites. We seriously need to consider other options for the whole space of this internet going forward. We need to create federated instances. We should not be on forums, slowly shut out of the rest of the internet one door at a time. And we are not going to get any traction on socials. We need to go to web3, whenever they get their heads out of their asses with hype cycles and actually make something deliverable. As soon as I can find a way to make the onboarding for that easy and not some massive pile of nerdjank, I will make sure we have another backup space that CAN'T BE TAKEN DOWN. The current options are all low traffic and not terribly alluring. Plus, you won't be getting much foot traffic in those places. But I have no doubt that *something* will emerge.

Some of us are only on the cutting edge because we have to be.
 
Some thoughts.

What would be the issue with allowing everyone to modify their own posts without time restrictions?
err umm that's near impossible. Not only is it a way to sneak in stuff past the moderators post-facto, as Barb mentioned. It also means people can go back and revise or remove anything for any reason, on a whim.

Now if Xenforo is advanced enough to allow versioning (i.e. you would see the most recent version of a post and there would be a notification "there are x previous versions" and you could see them - that would be acceptable in terms of content management. But I don't think that exists.

In order to preserve conversations, forums usually only offer a short editing time window, that's normal.

Thanks Malins. I might add that … within reason, mods are generally able to modify/edit members’ posts on request after the grace period has expired. Just ask.
The workload you would get would be unmanageable. I mean, I'm not a high frequency postr, but just to salvage my stuff, that would mean going through many of my posts in the witches thread, some posts spread out over other people's threads like @Jollyrei's Death & Maiden, my entire soppy sentimental photostory thread etc. -- even if I prepared this perfectly "go to post www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/8280/#post-547257 and replace i.imgur.com/mHmo9ay.jpg with bottomlessp.it/312312.jpg" for each & every edit, it would probably be hours of work.
Now imagine doing that for all the active members using imgur...
 
Some thoughts.


err umm that's near impossible. Not only is it a way to sneak in stuff past the moderators post-facto, as Barb mentioned. It also means people can go back and revise or remove anything for any reason, on a whim.

Now if Xenforo is advanced enough to allow versioning (i.e. you would see the most recent version of a post and there would be a notification "there are x previous versions" and you could see them - that would be acceptable in terms of content management. But I don't think that exists.

In order to preserve conversations, forums usually only offer a short editing time window, that's normal.


The workload you would get would be unmanageable. I mean, I'm not a high frequency postr, but just to salvage my stuff, that would mean going through many of my posts in the witches thread, some posts spread out over other people's threads like @Jollyrei's Death & Maiden, my entire soppy sentimental photostory thread etc. -- even if I prepared this perfectly "go to post www.cruxforums.com/xf/threads/8280/#post-547257 and replace i.imgur.com/mHmo9ay.jpg with bottomlessp.it/312312.jpg" for each & every edit, it would probably be hours of work.
Now imagine doing that for all the active members using imgur...
No, I wasn’t suggesting anything unmanageable like that! But we can make selected changes or edits for members for good reason.
 
So at some point, CF is going to have to limit itself to member-created images. The site can't be a compendium of the entire internet, especially now that AI can generate infinite numbers of images. Most image sites already do that-pixiv, PixelsInPeril, ArtUntamed all let you post only work you made.
Aren't those specifically art exhibition sites rather than forums, though?
 
Aren't those specifically art exhibition sites rather than forums, though?
Sure. But what does "forum" mean? It means a place that is open for discussions that aren't necessarily based around a particular picture or story. But does that require endless threads of pictures taken from all over the internet? For example, not to pick on anyone, it's fine to raise a topic like, "Older heavier women can be attractive, too" and to choose a FEW pictures to illustrate that. But when you have thousands of pictures over dozens of pages, is that necessary in order to call it a forum?
 
This is really shitty news.

Remember when Tumblr wiped over a BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS off the worth of their company by driving away the adult content creators.?

Those who fail to learn the lessons of history and all that.
 
This is really shitty news.

Remember when Tumblr wiped over a BILLION FUCKING DOLLARS off the worth of their company by driving away the adult content creators.?

Those who fail to learn the lessons of history and all that.
Yes surely the adult content defines the internet. I was once in the early time comparing the download speed of recorded lectures in mathematics, compared to the speed you could download pornos. The results will not surprise anyone.
 
I stumbled onto this while dealing with my "daily read list", and thought it would be of interest here, because I see that many members use Imgur.

As of May 15th, Imgur will not allow any images that contain nudity, except for artistic, educational and/or informative purposes. They don't explain if it will affect already uploaded pictures, but I'd assume they will start deleting them, as Tumblr did in its moment. I guess many images uploaded by CruxForums users will fall into that category. Good luck arguing to Imgur that pictures of naked women having an orgasm while nailed to the cross are informative or artistic... :-(

The new ToS can be found here: https://imgurinc.com/tos

It seems that Imgur has sent this email to its users:
I'm sorry of bringing bad news. But, at least, this should let you download the content from that platform before it gets deleted.
try upload to VK : free and uncensored !
 
So Imgur have chosen suicide, just as Tumblr did...

These woke companies will never learn will they?
It's the payment processors and the advertisers who deserve your ire. Rise above the culture war. Aim higher, focus on the real threats.
 
I started using imgur to host photos after learning about it from reddit. I remember after Photobucket pulled their shit and ruined hundreds of forums with decades of shared knowledge. Looks like I was wrong on my bet yet again. Fucking hell. It's a lie when they say that on the internet things are forever. And this latest push to sanitize and make every single space maximally family friendly has cut a deep gash through the internet. Fucking puritanical insanity. You'll need to reupload files that were imgur hosted if they are flagged as containing nudity. This will affect @Hornet1ba in particular.
I just downloaded all my hosted images on Imgur in a backup folder so that when and if they are deleted by ImgUr bot,i will re upload them on the CF server as i used to do.

All of them are below the 2 meg file size limit anyway.
It wont affect the image quality.
 
I stumbled onto this while dealing with my "daily read list", and thought it would be of interest here, because I see that many members use Imgur.

As of May 15th, Imgur will not allow any images that contain nudity, except for artistic, educational and/or informative purposes. They don't explain if it will affect already uploaded pictures, but I'd assume they will start deleting them, as Tumblr did in its moment. I guess many images uploaded by CruxForums users will fall into that category. Good luck arguing to Imgur that pictures of naked women having an orgasm while nailed to the cross are informative or artistic... :-(

The new ToS can be found here: https://imgurinc.com/tos

It seems that Imgur has sent this email to its users:
I'm sorry of bringing bad news. But, at least, this should let you download the content from that platform before it gets deleted.
WOKE sons of bitches!
 
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