Yes... guilty! @Crucificateur started one such in 2012but I have a feeling this will be merged with another, older thread, for the continuity of the conversation.
Thanks Tree!Tree prefers through the arch of the foot, one over the other. It is neat and simple... cheaper too as both feet can be done with one nail. Tree also notes whether nailing through the foot or from the side a good executioner can miss going through bone. By the way, @Wragg recently did a crucifixion of Alice with the spikes driven through the sides of her ankles. It was a well-done nailing of the woman and drew no objections from Tree
Damn it, Wragg, we ARE killing the crucified and don't care how hard they have to work to breath!!!!If nails are fastened directly to the front or side of the cross then the full weight is taken on the nail as the victim pushes up rather than partly on a footrest as in some traditional depctions.
Indeed... all these footrests and sediles - luxury!Damn it, Wragg, we ARE killing the crucified and don't care how hard they have to work to breath!!!!
Good point. The footrest makes it easier for the crucified to rise up and take a breath where feet nailed flat against the stipe makes it more difficult. But the footrest adds complexity to the cross and we are crucifying her to put her to death...I have to imagine that just like giving the crucified water, the footrest is often a disguised cruelty.
But a footrest will ensure that the stipes can be reused many times without gathering additional nail holes and reducing the structural integrity of the cross. You can create a system where only the footrest and patibulum are reused, saving on materials. Labor costs are always low, and a little bit of extra salt for a successful crucifixion is worth it, I think!Good point. The footrest makes it easier for the crucified to rise up and take a breath where feet nailed flat against the stipe makes it more difficult. But the footrest adds complexity to the cross and we are crucifying her to put her to death...
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Tree votes no footrest... Make her suffer and die and you won't have to pay the guards overtime!
But with your feet nailed flat you can dance well the first hour or so.Though that concerning Messa, it could be a longer time to the cross and , so, a longer time to admire her so beautiful body twisting on her cross ... !
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That’s an aesthetic you have mastered yourself!Don't forget a footrest will also
accentuate the shape of the crucifieds legs
Only one hour ?!...But with your feet nailed flat you can dance well the first hour or so...
YES ! ... and for a woman, it's essential to have shapely legs ! Why do you think that we wear high heels looking like "footrest" ?Don't forget a footrest will also
accentuate the shape of the crucifieds legs
When a woman is nailed to a cross and her feet are nailed to the footstool, her feet are most graceful, especially when they are nailed with one nail.Only one hour ?!
YES ! ... and for a woman, it's essential to have shapely legs ! Why do you think that we wear high heels looking like "footrest" ?
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wonderful comment!Only one hour ?!
YES ! ... and for a woman, it's essential to have shapely legs ! Why do you think that we wear high heels looking like "footrest" ?
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As your crucifier I would opt for four 1/4" square iron spikes hand forged. Probably 6" long with a not too sharp a point. Feet would go to the side of the cross arranged artistically at different levels. If I was to be crucified I would insist on the same of course with a couple of pretty wenches to do the deed.As usual ... both have their upsides and downsides...
Pro for Single Nail Theory: ... pushing down firmly with one foot on the other like that, feels kind of nice ... especially in the rising up position, very aesthetic silhouette ... big spike is scary ... visual tradition ...
Pro for separately nailed feet: ... in any given position, usually much more movement possible with two nails ... many more ways of fixing to the cross thinkable ... more options for access ...
If my crucifier prefers single nail I'm not going to complain!
also the nailing sequence is more interesting than just "first nail one foot, then nail the other": Drive the spike through one foot, until it comes out the sole, then place that nailed foot on top of the other, hammer again, ...
Since a crucifixion lasts quite a while it's possible to have the best of both worlds
... or is there a law that prevents extracting foot nails during the crux, and re-crucifying the feet in a different position?
Or of course that ... into the sacred healing pool and soon we'll be ready to go again ...
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Well, I don’t think you’d get a choice on hand-forged. Spun nails wouldn’t be invented for another 1500-1700 years. Otherwise I agree!As your crucifier I would opt for four 1/4" square iron spikes hand forged. Probably 6" long with a not too sharp a point. Feet would go to the side of the cross arranged artistically at different levels. If I was to be crucified I would insist on the same of course with a couple of pretty wenches to do the deed.