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Margot
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These days there are some distractions. There was a referendum in Bolivia to decide whether the president can run again in 2019 for a fourth term, which makes a lot of people very upset, and made Jac go into a bunch of activities unrelated to his main tasks. On top of it, a very nice and very young lady arrived to work with him in a documentary. So, he's been very busy and will stay busy until next week when she returns from whence she came. Still, he has been cutting JUSTINE a bit more. Adjusting some shots, cutting a frame or two, here and there. The first cut will take more time than expected. Perhaps two weeks more than expected. Jac should have the first cut done by the middle of March. After that, there's a little more fine cutting, final cut, sound mix, color correction and finally, The Release of JUSTINE to the World.
a fan comments I own several of the Via Crucis series, both Jane and Camille, and though they are similar in many ways, they are all great!
The Via Crucis series are the training ground for both Camille and Jane (aka Amy) They are very intense sessions where the actresses sharpened their skill and tested their capacity to withstand long and agonizing hours of pain and discomfort. Each session last a couple of days, if not more. So... they take their toll. A lot has been said about Jac's "performance" on those sessions. Well, he was never performing. I too, believe that they are great.
a fan asks Reine Margot, a question, if I may: something you wrote recently implied that you yourself had been under the lash. Perhaps everyone know this, but it was new to me. Are there any photos or video to share? Again, perhaps everyone knows this.... And we eagerly await Justine's arrival.
Well, yes, there are some pictures from my sessions with Jac, we shot two videos, maybe three, but they were made just to see how things could work in a film. By that I mean, the acting and the mechanics of a crucifixion, the steps leading to it and so on. For me it was important to find my way into a character that suffers on the cross. These sessions began with long discussions about motivating factors and followed with observations of what was missing and so on and so forth. The videos were never edited and they are not very long. There wasn't the intention of doing anything more than just a record of what we did for us to study later. Jac began to perfect that system with Carmen, working on more elaborate settings and with the intention to actually edit a complete scene or sequence.
a fan asks As for mature women, I guess I am in the minority.... someone told me decades ago that one of the few benefits of aging is that the upper bound of one's idea of a hot woman rises, so the number of women in the world one admires increases with time. I have found that to be true. For GIMP purposes, the mature woman knows what's coming and, unlike younger ones, does not have the resources or affordances of youth to get her off the hook: you may spare the princess but the queen....sorry. And so I wonder what would happen if Reine Margot found herself on the rack?
We all know that the world of film and fantasy suffers from a malady called ageism, perhaps more so in the case of women than in the case of men. As the latest episode of Star Wars can attest, audiences were drawn to the film because of the older Harrison Ford, who, in the view of many women is, still, fuckable. However, that was not the case with the once sex symbol.Carrie Fisher. In the world of GIMP, gimp oriented audiences will always go for the young ladies in distress. Then, the question is when does women reach that Mature status? 30's? 40's? 50's? It is not very strange for a fuckable man in his sixties to attract 20 year olds. I know some that do. Is it the same for women in their 60's? I know of some who do. Am I in my 60's? No. Would I look good on a rack? Hmmm. There's a beautiful woman, who had Jac's heart in her hands when they were teenagers, she would look excellent on the rack ... and she's much older than me.
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a fan comments I own several of the Via Crucis series, both Jane and Camille, and though they are similar in many ways, they are all great!
The Via Crucis series are the training ground for both Camille and Jane (aka Amy) They are very intense sessions where the actresses sharpened their skill and tested their capacity to withstand long and agonizing hours of pain and discomfort. Each session last a couple of days, if not more. So... they take their toll. A lot has been said about Jac's "performance" on those sessions. Well, he was never performing. I too, believe that they are great.
Well, yes, there are some pictures from my sessions with Jac, we shot two videos, maybe three, but they were made just to see how things could work in a film. By that I mean, the acting and the mechanics of a crucifixion, the steps leading to it and so on. For me it was important to find my way into a character that suffers on the cross. These sessions began with long discussions about motivating factors and followed with observations of what was missing and so on and so forth. The videos were never edited and they are not very long. There wasn't the intention of doing anything more than just a record of what we did for us to study later. Jac began to perfect that system with Carmen, working on more elaborate settings and with the intention to actually edit a complete scene or sequence.
We all know that the world of film and fantasy suffers from a malady called ageism, perhaps more so in the case of women than in the case of men. As the latest episode of Star Wars can attest, audiences were drawn to the film because of the older Harrison Ford, who, in the view of many women is, still, fuckable. However, that was not the case with the once sex symbol.Carrie Fisher. In the world of GIMP, gimp oriented audiences will always go for the young ladies in distress. Then, the question is when does women reach that Mature status? 30's? 40's? 50's? It is not very strange for a fuckable man in his sixties to attract 20 year olds. I know some that do. Is it the same for women in their 60's? I know of some who do. Am I in my 60's? No. Would I look good on a rack? Hmmm. There's a beautiful woman, who had Jac's heart in her hands when they were teenagers, she would look excellent on the rack ... and she's much older than me.
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February is over. So very fast. There were a few days at the end of February where Jac was intensely involved in a very important project, a documentary, that he'll go on to complete in June and July. So, for those 12 days he was shooting interviews, following some unraveling events, and so on and so forth. So, during those 12 days he did not do any editing on JUSTINE.
He's going back to editing tonight. The good thing about this unexpected intermission is that he now has a nice distance from the project and he can see very well what needs to be cut, improved and changed. Distance is vital in editing. It does not affect the plans to have a final cut before the end of this month and ultimately, it didn't affect the possible release date.
The results of the month are in. This is like our own little poll of preferences for our movies and they are not just based on the opinions of some fans, but they are the actual data of what our fans prefer to put their hard earned cash into. The data can be broken up in points, which are very, very clear of what people prefer and the distance in points between the choices. These are the TEN most bought/viewed of the 44 films we have so far. Four of them are not in the market yet, JUSTINE, Pygmalion, The Specter of Blood Castle and Nocturnia.
It would be interesting to know our rating at Amazon.com where thousands of films are sold. In any case, Maleficarum is, for now, our Best Seller of all time. The number two spot in our history is held by Red Feline on the Cross. However, there are 20 points difference between the two.
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3.- Sirwiñakuy! 5.63
4.- Dead But Dreaming 4.73
5.- Martyr 4.25
6.- Barbazul 3.98
7.- JUSTINE 3.86
8.- Olalla 3.67
4.- Dead But Dreaming 4.73
5.- Martyr 4.25
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10.- Romana Crucifixa Est 1.71
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The First Cut of JUSTINE is down to 1 hr 50 min of screen time. The edited part is at 1 hr 20 min. 30 min left to cut down. The idea is to have a 90 min film, but if it comes down to 85, it is, still, acceptable. I'm betting that the First Cut of the entire film will be ready by the 21st of this month. After that, a little break to get some distance and on to the final cut, mix, color correction and voila, JUSTINE will be ready. I can also bet that the possibility of getting the film at a discount price will be over before the 21st. Just sayin' Get JUSTINE in advance of its release for a discount price and get some perks too before the offer ends this week!
The equipment is not what we're excited about. I was simply observing that in the last few years we have experienced a growth that is very, very positive. We can produce with high quality sound and image. That's a plus in a competitive world, regardless of content. Going to festivals is also a plus, we get to be in the news and more public exposure translates in new fans, new fans that buy our films which translates in more income for our cast and crew. The comments about cutting down the GIMP have to do with reaching a larger audience, one that will not sit down to a looooong scene of torture, to then watch another looooong scene of torture.
We live new times now, yes. We're part of that new world. We started Red Feline in 1998 when a lot of the new ways of producing and watching movies were in their earlier stages. In the times of Jess Franco, there were producers, mostly in Germany, who were willing to shell out a few hundred thousand dollars to make films like Justine<, with Klaus Kinsky or Fu Manchu, with Christopher Lee, and sure, Kubrik had a lot more cash to do Clockwork Orange, in both cases, that of Franco and Kubrik, there were well defined styles in filmmaking and both had their fans. We produce with a lot less now, a lot less but in many cases the production values are a lot better than some of Franco's films, the cheaper ones. In other words, we do a lot more with 10,000 than producers of old did with 300,000. And the Straight to VHS market is over. There are many more ways of viewing films now, DVDs, Downloads, Streaming ... options that have created new markets, wide audiences, but also a huge load of choices. It also increased piracy, unfortunately. It's a competitive market, one we have to deal it and take advantage of.
We're not really testing the GIMP audience. We've been making GIMP movies for over 16 years. I think we measured all possible ways of getting our productions out there. Even Maleficarum ended up in Multiplexes, and no one in our group is actually interested in an Oscar. Amy is not listening to people she really respects. She's getting some feedback from some people that she does not really respect but who have some info as to how to navigate the big markets if she or Jac want to have some security in their old age, right now they have none. From the beginning Amy made clear what her preferences were as far as the subjects she wants to write and direct. She directed Sirwiñakuy long before Jac directed her in Maleficarum. In fact, Sirwiñakuy was on its 5th month on the big screen when she started directing Barbazul and by that time Jac already knew what the response to an "artsy" film with GIMP content would be when he released Martyr, a film that didn't win the hearts, minds and groins of the GIMP crowd. We know what a film like Maleficarum can do and how far it can go. We can expect that JUSTINE will have a decent run in the world of GIMP, it might be well received in Amazon and it might even end up in some weird film festivals. There are other issues that both Jac and Amy are confronting at this point. Jac is a true New Yorker, btw, he lived there 40 years and still, he ended up going back to the farm.
Jac's roots go way back before the Red Feline experience, he dedicated years to produce an amazing docudrama that put his name up there in Cannes and international film festivals, it was shown in PBS and international television like Ch 4 in England and NDR in Germany. He did other documentaries and a TV series, where he joined forces with Carmen/Camille. Red Feline was a little experiment that became something larger, a brand name of sorts. It had more to do with Jac's preferences in GIMP. He's very much into this as anyone here, so he knows what he wants from a film like that, the problem is how to get what he wants, what he really wants, and there are so many variables, but the main one is and it always will be, the resources, all the resources. He would prefer to dedicate most of his time and talents to make films like Maleficarum, he has a lot of fun doing that. Jac's niche is even more limited, and he's still dreaming of that huge budget crucifixion movie but fears that he'll never have the big bucks for it.
I sense a tension between aspiring to great film making a la Kubrick and what mostly seems to appeal to GIMPERS, which is a GIMP scene pure and simple. Great movies have great plot, photography and music. GIMP movies can have good photography and don't necessarily need a plot an music. But, on the other hand, a lack of plot or dramatic tension makes for quick boredom. For example, I like whipping scenes as much as anyone here, but after about two minutes of flogging with nothing else it gets boring and tedious no matter how gorgeous the GIMP is. There is always the Salomonic solution, if it is a cinematic production enjoy the film with all its elements. You can always go back to the "good" parts. Best to Amy, Queen Margot, and Jac on their new adventure. I am enclosing a photo manip I just finished with a story line to aid the imagination in completing what is missing.
I don't think that there's tension. I think it's the process taking place now. After 5 years of high production films, 7 in total, that's a lot of big movies in 5 years, the time has come to decide where to go next. Where to put the big efforts and who to work with. An example: If we were to produce Maleficarum II, we can expect that it will be as popular as Maleficarum just because of the title. But it could also be only half as popular, in which case it would not be a good idea to produce it. Why? Because Maleficarum II requires a lot more production values than the first. It would be expected of us to make a film far superior to the first. A second inquisition movie cannot be a repetition of the first. If there's a BATS scene it would have to be seriously better than the first one. The dungeon scenes would have to be a lot better than anything we did so far and not the same as before. More exotic locations, a large cast, new torture instruments, and so on. But most importantly, the leading ladies. The demands on them would be very, very big and extreme and they would demand a big payback for their efforts. Furthermore, we would need more than 2 victims. 3 or 4 might be enough or maybe not. And not to mention a whole bunch of extras. That's the issue now.
And that's what I'm discussing here. A great GIMP movie with everything that it deserves and with all the means possible. Unfortunately, we're simply not getting enough to do justice to a film like that. Jac has reached the point where he will not go into a film without all he needs for it. That's where the documentaries and the TV series come in. He can accept a low budget production for someone else, like Erix, who is going to shoot an adventure film with Amy and Mila in leading roles. Or an intriguing story set in a hotel, more in tone with Sirwiñakuy and directed by Amy... but another Maleficarum film... that will require a lot of cash. So, we'll have to wait until JUSTINE is released and see how it goes to find out what will Jac decide to do next. I'll let you all know in May.
There's a limit to how much we can raise with a campaign as we did with JUSTINE. And there's a limit to how much an individual is could contribute to a GIMP-friendly movie. Individual contributions and two campaigns made three films possible and freed resources to make two more. So, I'm not complaining, in fact I don't think any of our work would exist if it wasn't for all the support we received through the years since the old days of Red Feline on The Cross. As everything in life, things change with time. People change. We changed. We're facing those natural changes that come from time to time, like they did after Martyr was completed. Back then there were not too many people involved in a full time basis. For Martyr and Nocturnia Jac got together a crew and cast, there was some money available and he made those two features. That was the end of that era. Amy joined up, because of Martyr, and a new era began. We're facing a new cycle. But it's not only one or two people, we have a bunch of full time cast and crew with experience, enthusiasm and needs. The price of growth. Needs.
We need to increase our yearly budget to keep this going and one way of doing that is producing more mainstream fare. Something that was difficult to do in the past because we didn't have what we have now, lots of equipment, an experienced crew and a very talented and enthusiastic cast. Even if we stick to produce horror movies, with some erotica, they have to be the kind that will end up in big stores, if we make a TV series, it has to be one that will go into cable TV, or streaming channels like Netflix. That's the dilemma. There's one way of keeping the work we do the way we do it, and that's reaching out to a lot more people to get our movies. We always find our films pirated, so we know that a lot more people see our films that way and we should be able to find more people willing to pay for them. Unfortunately there are too many sites, that charge, where people can download our films and we don't get anything. Piracy does affect us. We fight pirates, but there are too many, they are a plague. That's why it would be nice if we get a pay check for a TV series and let them worry about pirates.
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Margot
Governor
With embedded pictures!
The First Cut of JUSTINE is two sequences away from being completed. I expect that to happen by this weekend. Yes! The first cut of JUSTINE will be done by Sunday. The Final Cut, Sound Mix and Color Correction will be happening next week. It is very possible that the film will be ready at the end of the month! Can we expect a release date now?! I think we'll have a release date before the end of the month! JUSTINE is coming!
frog Reine Margot, My comments were not directed at your projects but, rather, at the audience of the forum. It was reading their opinions that I sensed the tension I mentioned in my post. In any case, even if you discount the production costs that are needed to put on film one of the major works of the Divine Marquis, just concentrating on the GIMP scenes, as some diehard Gimpers would like, would not work. Anyone who has come in contact with Sade’s ouvre knows that the erotic parts cannot be divorced from his philosophical ramblings which, in fact, can occupy more space that the GIMP scenes. This would be another problem in conveying the Marquis’s meaning, i. e., how to incorporate the long philosophical disquisitions into a medium such as film which is mostly visual. Many have stumbled over this problem before and failed dismally.
Justine The Novel has that basic De Sade story telling. Endless conversations and monologues that basically repeat themselves over and over to make a point. Within those dialogues and monologues there are some story lines and with them descriptions of events. The dialogues have descriptions, on a first person style, mostly Justine, narrating her story, and most of the descriptions, that tell of her woes can be made into individual movies and/or episodes of a series. It would be very, very long and probably boring series. If those dialogues were kept verbatim, it would be nearly impossible for an actor to memorize them all. Really. So, what most scriptwriters and directors did was to take some bits of the book, and dedicate a movie to the portion they decided to select plus the story they decided to add to it. Jac did away with most of the dialogues, condensed the parts that tell the story of Justine and decided to tell the story with images. The philosophy of the Marquis is there, as well as his humor, he was humorous, and his irreverence. But most importantly, the film captures the essence of the main character, Justine, who is willing to suffer to maintain a sense of virtue, to be virginal even after having been raped repeatedly, and to claim of her innocence when she's actually not really innocent.
The campaign for JUSTINE has come to an end. We are truly grateful to everyone who made this film possible with the large, medium, and small contribution, including those who got a download or DVD at a discount. I will be announcing when the film will be available. In the meantime and for the rest of this week, we still have a 20% discount on all our films if you buy two or more. This offer will be taken out on Monday. We will not have another sale for some time.
That's it for now!
Margot
Governor
The final cut of JUSTINE is practically DONE! The film is in the sound design stage, which mean all those little details are added now, dialogues are cleared, sound dirt is removed, shots are cut to go with the music and so on. By the end of next week the film will be at the Color Correction and Final Mix stage. That will be the time when a date release will be agreed upon and announced. JUSTINE is coming soon to that large screen near you! (We no longer need to go to a theater to watch a movie in a large screen. We can do it at home, with a beer, nachos, and soft pillows). To celebrate this, the powers above me have decided to have a SPRING SALE! Up to 25% OFF!
To give you an idea of how our films make it as a whole, I have these results. I have the release dates of each film in the top ten list of all times because that shows how long it took for each film to reach the points shown. Clearly, the newer films are going higher on the list in a shorter time. JUSTINE is not on the list because it hasn't been released yet. The rest of the films don't make the list although they were around longer than any of the new, big production movies. Films like Fantom, or Aristocrux or even the Via Crucis series, don't make it to the TOP TEN list even tough they've been around for over 5 years, some of them even longer. I have a top number of course, that's 100, and I'm waiting to see which movie will reach that high plateau.
1.- Maleficarum (2011) 88 points.
2.- Red Feline on the Cross (1998) 70 points.
3.- Further Ordeals of Red Feline (1999) 42 points
4.- Red Feline Faces the Inquisition (1999) 39 points
5.- Tribulations of Red Feline and Melissa (2000) & Dead But Dreaming (2013) 29 points
6.- The Execution of the Condemned (2001) 26 points
7.- Agent X (2009) 24 points
8.- Le Marquis De La Croix (2012) 20 points
9 Olalla (2015) 19 points
10.- Martyr (2011), Sirwiñakuy (2010), Barbazul (2012) 16 points
2.- Red Feline on the Cross (1998) 70 points.
3.- Further Ordeals of Red Feline (1999) 42 points
4.- Red Feline Faces the Inquisition (1999) 39 points
5.- Tribulations of Red Feline and Melissa (2000) & Dead But Dreaming (2013) 29 points
6.- The Execution of the Condemned (2001) 26 points
7.- Agent X (2009) 24 points
8.- Le Marquis De La Croix (2012) 20 points
9 Olalla (2015) 19 points
10.- Martyr (2011), Sirwiñakuy (2010), Barbazul (2012) 16 points
It is not so much as going mainstream, it is more like attempting to reach a wider audience. Maleficarum and all of the films that came after are not family oriented movies that will play for granpas, moms, pops and the children. Multiplexes tend to make the more money when they sell tickets to groups of 4 or more and that means families, thus, the preferred movies in those settings are all super-heros-3D-cute-animated-cartoon movies. For our movies, the distribution method of preference, and the most effective, is the sale of downloads and DVDs. However, we have the luxury of opening our films theatrically, which is not what most independent filmmakers can ever hope to do.
Maleficarum came at a time when Amy and Jac were very involved with GIMP movies like Agent X. But having made Sirwiñakuy, with very little money and managed to open in theaters, create controversy and be on the big screen for 5 months, they felt it was time for something a bit more complex and they decided to do Barbazul. While we were working on the pre-production of that movie, Ralphus, of GIMP site fame, had secret talks with Amy and very much like the serpent in the garden, offered Eve (Amy) the apple from the tree of Gimpage and, voila, an idea that was in Jac's mind for at least three years became a reality. The films that followed were successful, if you measure success passing the line of breaking even. None lost money and all of them were far more successful than all of our Torture All The Time movies like Agent X. The new big production films made Amy and Jac well known in wider circles, with articles in big magazines like Fangoria and so on and so forth. JUSTINE is putting Jac a la par with Jess Franco, really, and he might move in that direction, producing crazy movies of all kinds until he drops dead.
The two new films coming up, PYGMALION and JUSTINE will certainly mark the end of a cycle and the beginning of another one, like Martyr Or The Death of St Eulalia did ten years ago. One thing is certain, the road ahead is like a blank sheet and we're all ready to start walking ahead. We're older, wiser and more experienced. We're better known for our daring and outrageousness, we're better equipped and many people are eagerly hoping to work with us, not just here, but in the US and Europe too. So, time will tell where we go from here. I know that Amy is preparing the Behind The Scenes clip of JUSTINE and Jac will begin working on the trailers as soon as he's done with the editing of this highly anticipated movie. We're heading to the days of the release of these two films and it's happening very soon.
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Margot
Governor
Phlebas Looks interesting
jimsac That whipping scene looks very hot!
jimsac That whipping scene looks very hot!
Indeed it does! The film is interesting.... sure, but a lot more than that. It's absolutely HOT!
Tension mounts, the expectations are high, some are very, very anxious to hear the good news... the date of release! However it is not forthcoming, not yet. At this moment all creative juices are engaged in getting the sound right while, at the same time, a bit of trimming of the scenes... and in some cases, the elimination of entire shots because they might not be working where they are. The film has come down from over 145 min of screen time, to about 144. At the end of this work JUSTINE will certainly be way over 100 min. That's where the film is now. Jac expects to put the project in Amy's hands for color correction by Monday night. He'll be traveling next week and when he returns he'll go into the final mix of the sound. We expect that by the middle of May the film will be ready to be formatted for DVD and Downloads, which doesn't mean that they will be available. It will take a few more days for them to be uploaded, checked, approved and so on. In any case, the process of this film is in its final stages and it's looking very, very good.
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Another month just flew by, making us all a bit older, a bit wiser, all too fast. With the end of the month the new results of our sales are coming in and it is looking like this:
1 Maleficarum 22.5
2 Le Marquis de la Croix 11.5
3 Barbazul 8.6
4 Sirwiñakuy8.1
5 Dead But Dreaming 7.4
6 Olalla 6.6
7 Martyr 6.2
8 Agent X4.9
9 Romana Crucifixa Est 3.1
10 Red Room 2.3
2 Le Marquis de la Croix 11.5
3 Barbazul 8.6
4 Sirwiñakuy8.1
5 Dead But Dreaming 7.4
6 Olalla 6.6
7 Martyr 6.2
8 Agent X4.9
9 Romana Crucifixa Est 3.1
10 Red Room 2.3
Gabrieleknight at the GIMP Forum: The picture is a homage to Amy Hesketh's beauty. It is not the only one. Amy Hesketh has inspired many of my pictures. Domitia is based on an anticipation about the new movie "Justine" Amy is an inspiration to many around here!
The shot used in Domitilia is from one of the JUSTINE screen shots I posted before. It's always nice to see that our films, and particularly our heroines, inspire many works of art. One such artist who was frequently inspired by Camille is our friend Quoom. Amy also inspired others, who used her image to do some interesting work. One such work was inspired by the stills Jac shot before shooting Romana Crucifixa Est.
The Wheel is multi use, or at least it has two different uses, one as it is used in JUSTINE and another setting it up straight and it becomes a rack. It was built with the intention of using it in a couple of movies in different ways. One great possibility is to use it in Maleficarum II - Monxa Mala, if that movie comes to be made at some point in the very near future. With some simple adaptations, the famous Wheel can be made into some impressive medieval torture instrument. I know that Jac is hoping to get his cast for that film and he wishes he could get the funds he needs for that potential masterpiece of cruelty.
That's it for now! I will return with more news and hopefully with the date of release of JUSTINE!
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Always nice, where this girl likes to be -
getting up close and personal with the Whipping Post!
Always nice, where this girl likes to be -
getting up close and personal with the Whipping Post!
That's the pic that I spent some time looking at too
Margot
Governor
If I'm not mistaken, this coming Monday, JUSTINE will go into Color Correction. The sound track work and fine cutting is officially completed but it's never over until the director says it's over. The screen time came down to 143 minutes. Amy is going to see it and she might call for more cutting and if Jac agrees, it will happen. Amy is very good at making those kind of suggestions. Jac does not always agree. So the film is nearly done. Nearly. No one has seen it yet, except the director, of course, so everyone is just waiting to see the final result of that incredibly tough job. Yes, there were fun times too.
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Get your download or DVD NOW! . Yes, I'm pushing our products because that's what I do. They are more than just products, they are beautiful movies and lots of people talk about them a lot. One recent comment on FB was Jac Avila's MALEFICARUM starring Amy Hesketh makes all other films about the "Holy" Inquisition that I have ever seen pale by comparison. Even Ken Russel's THE DEVILS does not come close. This film is well worth watching, if you are strong enough to face the pain of historical truth made too real to ignore.
Yes, Maleficarum reigns supreme, still. Is JUSTINE going to get up close? Time will tell. We're very excited about the release of this new movie and we wonder where it is going to take us. But, even as the release gets closer, other things are happening and happening fast. In a couple of weeks Jac will be heading to the Amazon rainforest to shoot a documentary. He envisions it almost as the journey of Aguirre, in The Wrath of God, where Klaus Kinsky takes a boat up a river, with a beautiful woman by his side, in search of who knows what. Well, Jac will be doing the same, he'll take a boat up the same river, he'll be with a young beautiful woman, searching for poachers who are killing jaguars. In his first aid kit he has antidote for snake bite poison. It's that kind of journey. It brings back memories of my time in the Jungle.
That journey came about sometime after we released El Hombre de la Luna, the miniseries that brought Jac and Carmen together. I'm sharing a trailer here. In the picture above you can see Carmen, Beto, Jac and Me standing in front of the small plane that took us to Magdalena, a town near the river that would take us in search of pink dolphins. Beto is known for his role as Francisco Verdugo, the Inquisitor in Maleficarum , and The Butler in Barbazul . That picture brings back lots of memories, so does the trailer below. It is very nice to watch it, indeed.
El Hombre del la Luna
When we were shooting the series, Jac had some torture scenes. There was one actress, MaRe who trained for her role, that of a young prostitute that is tortured to death. She spent a few months with Jac working on her scene to get it right. So, Carmen, MaRe and Me were very busy back then, suffering for our art at the hands of our director.
There was no nudity inThe Man of the Moon, but there was enough torture for the time and the place. It was, after all, shown on prime time television. I'm going back in time and to this precise time, because of what is to come. Is like that theory that says that the past and the present meet at one point like the edges of a Taco or something like that. We're experiencing something like a Time Loop in more ways than one. Back then, early 90's, we worked on a TV series and we went to the Amazon to shoot a doc. Decades later, Jac is going back to the Amazon to shoot a doc and at his return he's preparing a TV series. There will be films in between, of course. But it's intriguing that the first time he went there, in 1996, he did it with Carmen and I, the second time, exactly ten years later, in 2006, he went there with Me and Amy and now another ten years later, 2016, he's going with someone totally new, Liz, a 26 year old who resembles, in a very eery way, Jac's first wife and co-producer with whom he went to Haiti and Cuba to make his first film. Life is totally crazy, isn't it?. And each time Jac ventured in that particular part of the world it was the beginning of something completely new.
In May, 1988, 28 years ago Jac was on his way to the Cannes Film Festival to premiere his first film, Krik? Krak! Tales of a Nightmare , where he combined documentary footage he shot in Haiti with dramatizations shot in Cuba (playing the part of colonial Haiti) and it was hard to tell the difference, he did this before Oliver Stone used that style in JFK, by the way, and in two reviews separated by a couple of years, the reviewers said exactly the same thing about two different films. "it combines documentary footage with dramatizations in such a way that it is hard to tell which is which". That year he showed up at my door, we met two years before, 1986 (ten years before we embarked in that jungle trip) but I didn't hear from him again until that moment in the summer of '88, not even a letter, when he came to invite me to join him in a wild, life changing adventure. In Krik Krak he managed to insert some awesome whipping and crucifixion scenes.
It is 2016, 30 years after I met him! and we're busier than ever, with two feature films to be released, two features in pre-production, a TV series in development, a documentary about to enter production and a Grand Plan Divine that includes a revamping of our site, redfeline.com, to include some really cool stories. I'll talk about that later.
Margot
Governor
Time flies. So much is going on that it is difficult to keep track of it all. In 10 days Jac will be in the rainforest, shooting a documentary. JUSTINE will be totally in Amy's hands and she will set the release date. June is going to be a month of total disconnect for Jac. July will be hectic for all of us and in August things will be returning back to "normal". Between now and the 25th of this month some decisions will be made, important decisions, concerning the release of this highly anticipated film. Amy and I will be keeping you all posted.
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I think it is important to understand the ROOTS issue. In some universe we're known for those amazing "fetish", for lack of a better word, films like Red Feline on the Cross, Agent X and so on. In another universe we're better known for works committed to causes like the ecology, human rights like Krik Krak, Outbreak, and so on. And yet, in another universe we're becoming very well known for feature films that fall into genres such as Horror, Terror and so on. While in one Universe Jac is often compared to Maya Deren and Garcia Marquez, in another universe he is very unique and in that third universe he is compared to Jesus Franco and yes, Buñul. But the actual roots are perhaps in that initial film that started it all. Krik Krak. We're not distancing ourselves from the Red Feline stage in our general production output. We're simply growing and taking that period with us to higher levels, with higher production values and great stories like ... yes... Maleficarum.
During the Red Feline years we had weekly releases. Our output was not a lot more than now, perhaps even less. If I were to quantify the productions from the time Jac began his career, I can count almost 50 films of all kinds in a 35 year span, beginning with his student film until now. The Red Feline Years, as active as they were, did not produce more than 25 movies from 1997 to 2001. The second part of the Red Feline Years, with Amy, produced 12 films prior to our mainstream period in which we produced 10 big production budget films including JUSTINE.
Another issue is who to work with. The actresses in our team, like Bea or Mila have their own outlook on life and what they want to be doing with their time. If we were to ask them to do a custom video, they would first have to agree to do it and then they would have to be paid enough for their efforts. Their rates are high now. For feature films they get good rates, which I will not disclose here at this time, but they are high. To give you an idea, Carmen lived three years and attended university in Paris with her earnings from Red Feline on the Cross and other movies made during that period. Mila supports her family with her earnings from the films she made since 2010. They don't look at a small payment as ideal. Profit sharing in our movies is more advantageous to them and right now they would be happy to make more movies like Dead But Dreaming or Pygmalion.
One issue that is critical is that of time and space. Locations are not easy to find and they cost money, and time is money, as they saying goes. There's very little time to do all we have to do as it is. We do, however, raise funds to make those big movies like Olalla and Justine, with perks that may include a custom type of scene, like the whipping scene in Dead But Dreaming or the whipping scene in JUSTINE or the roasting scene in Maleficarum. The contributions to those scenes were a big step to get the rest of the money together to get those films done.
The intention with revamping the redfeline.com site is to offer more to our supporters. However, that too takes time, effort and money. Those are the reasons why we did not continue. No one had the time to work on the site on a continuous basis, updating it with enough frequency and so on. That is what we're studying now. We have a lot of material to share, tons of stories, pictures, oh so many, many pictures, plans, and so on. For instance, let's say we want to Maleficarum II, we could share highlights of the story as it is written, show pictures and videos of the casting, rehearsals, shooting of the movie and so on. And that would be just one part of the site. There's going to a thought process first. We shall see what comes of it.
Back in the day, when we had the Red Feline site for members only, one of the sections was The Diary of Camille. By the time Jac and Carmen made Red Feline on the Cross and it was released to the world, the character of Camille took shape. All the work that Carmen and Jac did before the first Red Feline movie came out, became a true performance type of work. So, along with the Training of Camille stories and pictures, there are also videos, and the Via Crucis of Camille stories, pictures and videos, we published the recollections of Camille, her meeting with JJ and Margot, her process of becoming Red Feline, and so on. All of it illustrated with pictures from all those sessions, journeys, moments that Jac and Carmen captured visually as Camille became flesh. I can say that the final work of that period was Martyr Or The Death of St Eulalia, where Camille becomes the movie character. The Diary of Camille is like a documentary of the process Carmen went through as she created Camille.
In film, the creation of the project does not end with the shooting of the movie. The editing is the creation of the project, it is the putting together of the shots in a narrative that gives it meaning and yes, it takes longer, always, than the actual shooting. I think writing a script can be a lengthy process as well. Some people take a very long time to do it. Shooting the movie has its constrains. So, it cannot take longer than what the budget and the schedule provide. Sometimes a film can go a little over budget and it can go a few days beyond its schedule. The post production has only one factor to be aware of, the deadline. In our case there's no set deadline, only the need to release it in a timely manner. But there's no urgency as such, so the editing takes its normal time, and by that I mean the time it actually needs. This week is critical. Jac has to decided if he's happy with what he did, and Amy has to decide if she is happy with what he did. Once that process takes place, the rest is purely technical. Color correction, final sound mix, title, credits, processing of the movie itself, subtitles to at least four languages and building of the DVD. All technical work that takes a couple of weeks to complete. There's a bit of creative work deciding the tone of the colors and the sound mix and the position of the title and credits. Nothing creative about the rest. We're getting closer and closer to the release, that's a fact.
The public whipping in Dead But Dreaming is based on a real event that happened during the revolutionary period in La Paz, where the story takes place. And it is the story of a woman who aided the rebels against the Spanish Crown. When she was discovered, she was beaten, raped, taken to the public square, she was then stripped naked, whipped and paraded in the town naked on top of a donkey, while being beaten too, and then she was hanged. That's in history books in Bolivia. So, it was not tacked on in Dead But Dreaming. In fact, many of the events in the story, except, of course, the vampires, were taken from real historic events, and the characters, like Moira, were also based on real history characters. The general who orders the torture and death of Moira, is, in fact, Don Jose Manuel, who led the Spanish forces against the rebels. Eventually the rebels won, 20 years later. But during the period when the film takes place, most rebel leaders were killed and in nasty ways.
The main reason why people would be stripped naked before execution is to humiliate them. That is the case of Moira in Dead But Dreaming and that is the case of Justine in JUSTINE. Poor Justine suffers the cruel punishment for her many crimes, each deserving of their own punishment and each deserving the death penalty but, alas, she only has but one life
It doesn't necessarily mean that nudity is a must in the case of a public whipping. In some cases it is even sexier if there isn't total nudity. I think in the case of that famous whipping scene in Angelique and the Sultan, Angelique is not totally naked, but the scene is great, but short. For us, both cases work very well, even if we tend to throw in full nudity from time to time. Yes?
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Margot
Governor
One week, that's all Jac has to deliver the goods. Amy waits patiently. Little issues like the title, credits, and so on. Ah and some more work on the sound. Amy had a lot to say in how the credits should look and sent some more ideas for the sound tracks to Jac for his consideration and he liked them... so more work. But JUSTINE is nearly, nearly done in Jac's side. After the 24th it will be up to Amy. Once Jac sends the project Amy's way, it will be completely done, other than the color correction. That's how the project is looking now. After the 24th we'll all be going into heavy work, there will be little time for much. Really. Amy will take over two films, I will be engaged in some of Jac's work, which deal with the day to day issues like going after people, attorneys, meetings and so on. We're, after all, engaged in developing future projects and we have to get things done. Someone has to look after the store in their absence.
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Scott I just want to add something to the discussion about why an actress has to be stripped completely nude for an execution or whipping scene. Amy said that the public whipping and execution in Dead But Dreaming was based on historical records.One huge aspect of public executions was to humiliate the victim as much as possible, as it was another way to make the person suffer.
Yes, as I mentioned before, the Whipping in Dead But Dreaming is based in historical records. There's an statue in La Paz of the heroine, whose name escapes me, who was executed by the Spaniards. Four sides of the base of the statue show a sort of Stations of the Cross style graphic description of what the famous lady went through. One of the images is of the beautiful lady, naked, riding a donkey while a soldier is whipping her. Not too long ago a newspaper published in its Sunday edition and in the section dedicated to school children and in comic form, the story of this lady, one of the pictures is of her, naked, covered with bloody whip marks, being led to her execution, which was by hanging. Jac was actually considering having Amy ride a donkey before her strangulation scene. However Amy didn't think it would be healthy for her to sit on a donkey, all naked. In addition, it was kind of hard to get a donkey brought to the middle of the city for that purpose, although we did have a goat in Maleficarum.
Scott The Romans crucified their victims completely nude, not only to humiliate them, but add more suffering, such as sun burn.
The sunburn issue. Yes, it came up during the shooting of JUSTINE. They day selected for the crucifixion scene happened to be a very sunny day and in the altitude a sunny day means that the heat of the sun is really, really high and it certainly burns. So, there they were, Rodin's victims, all bloodied, most of their skin exposed to the merciless rays of the midday sun and they were up there, on their crosses, for a very long time. The parts of their bodies not protected by blood were turning almost purple. It took weeks, maybe months for those sunburn marks, uneven, of course, to go away. Bea still reminds Jac that she had to be wearing tops to cover her arms for months because they looked very, very weird, like she had some stripes, uneven stripes. She could not wear sexy tops for a very, very long time.
Scott It certainly is more realistic to see an actress nude for an execution or whipping scene mainstream TV or film scenes were the actress is whipped, but her back isn't even bared. Plus after the whipping or other torture, her makeup is still perfect and not a hair on her head is out of place. Also, Amy includes full nudity in her films, because Jac and Amy are also trying to sell as many copies of their films as possible and most normal guys, like to see woman nude and as long as Amy and the other actresses in her movies are willing to do full nudity, and it helps sell films, go and add it.
Full nudity and torture in one movie can be a double edge sword. Sure, it may sell more copies in the less public arena, like this wonderful site, but it may be limited to how far it can go in more "mainstream" places like movie houses, film festivals, television and so on, where the big, really big bucks are. We were fortunate that films like Maleficarum, Dead But Dreaming, Barbazul, Olalla were out there, playing to big crowds in Multiplexes. It was surprising, of course. It was even more surprising that some of them ended up in Festivals, like Olalla in the Feratum Film Festival in Mexico, Or Maleficarum in the Film Festival in Sucre, or Barbazul in Las Vegas. Then again, even Krik Krak had full nudity and torture, and it was a documentary! It went to big festivals, like Cannes and Telluride. I guess it works for us. BTW, a couple of days ago we were contacted from people at another festival, they want Sirwiñakuy.
Scott Plus, it probably helps the budget for the movies, you don't need as many costumes for the movie and that saves money. I'm sure many of us that have bought Amy's movies in the past have bought them because there is nudity.
Well, before the clothes go off, they have to look nice. Maleficarum is an example of the power of period costumes. They look nice, realistic to the period they portray and it's actually very cool to see those fancy clothes taken off. But only two characters loose their clothing in that incredibly sexy movie, the rest are full dressed and they have to look good. Yes? No savings there. In fact, there's more expense. All that body make up, both before and after a good whipping, all the work it takes to carry out a torture scene, all the props to hold the ladies in place. All of that costs a lot of money. And then, there are the actresses themselves. They must be well taken care of. Torture has a big cost.
If we were to compare the past productions, most of the Red Feline productions, where only two people worked doing everything in front and behind the camera, either Jac and Carmen or Jac and Amy or Jac and Vero, and in some cases Jac and Carmen and Vero, where expenses were kept to a bare minimum, and the time it took to make those films ranged from one day to a couple of weeks, to our new productions were the costs can go as high as 20,000 in cash or more, and where we have big crews, large cast, costumes, locations, props and then we see how far they go, both in reaching an audience and making money, the new movies fare a lot better. There's only one film from the old times that had an incredible outreach; the first one: Red Feline on the Cross. But those days were different. A VHS of that film was priced at 70 dollars and it sold well for a very long time.
Those were the days before digital production made it easier for films to be produced, reproduced, delivered, pirated ... and it was also before 9/11 when a lot of things changed forever. The world never really recover from that terrifying event. Another film that fares well in today's market is Agent X. Of all the films of the digital period of Red Feline, Agent X is the one that sells the best; however, it does not get anywhere near where Maleficarum or Le Marquis de la Croix are getting even as I type this. Our big production films cost a lot to make and they take a lot of effort but they definitely go a lot farther and keep on going.
Some good fans comment or suggest that we should return back to those less demanding days, but they were not really less demanding as far as the work is concerned. The work took its toll on the ONLY two people working on those movies; and as elaborate and as good as those projects were, the results were never up to the level of an amazing production like Maleficarum. There was a time when some of the production values began to get higher. Costumes, locations and props were getting more complex and pretty. It was during the shooting of AristoCrux that Jac began to think that he should increase the production values to his films but it did not happen until there were some extra funds to do Maleficarum.
If Jac were to consider smaller productions, where there are only two actors, he would go the way of Le Marquis de la Croix and not Agent X. Le Marquis had a crew, Agent X didn't. The good part of Agent X, or Fantom is that those movies are very personal and intimate productions, which means that Jac and Amy did whatever they felt like doing and didn't have to worry about a crew freaking out or anything if suddenly they were overwhelmed by what they were doing and decided to just... well... you know... Well.
In the other hand, Jac is considering having a studio set for quick movies like Agent X, with all kinds of props. All he would need are willing participants to go at it over and over again. He has some props like the wheel and the roasting apparatus, and a pillory, and crosses, and racks.and so on tons of chains, many whips, and so on. He has a lot of what he needs. There's the space too, the dungeon, that he could keep for a couple of hundred a month. He has all the means to produce whatever comes to his mind. However, not too many ladies are volunteering to be tortured as many times as he might want to have the pleasure to do. Someone said that we could turn out one production per week, or something like that, which is not exactly as easy as it seems. Not where we are, at least. Maybe in Estonia.
And then, a four part review/analysis of Dead But Dreamingappears and Jac realizes that he has to go on doing what he's doing because it is working out. This four part review appeared very recently and it is very impressive because the writer gives a lot of clues and background information for what's in the film. If you didn't see Dead But Dreaming you should not read it, it contains a lot of SPOILERS. But for those who did see it, it's very good reading. I quote: I happened across producer/director/actress Amy Hesketh's work and decided to give one of her recent films, Dead But Dreaming, a go. Amy is a ground breaker, portraying the archetypal innocent victim with an honest, understated talent for eroticizing her peril. I don’t use a rating system for the films I review, but if I did this movie would be a five-star winner. It’s that good. SPOILER ALERT: If you rather not know what happens in this film, stop now and go play on twitter!
Read the first part here:
https://3hattergrindhouse.com/2016/05/11/dead-but-dreaming-part-1-blood-and-desire/
In another part the writer notes: Speaking of crucifixion, there are three, one for each female vampire. Finally, the central male vampire, Asa (played by Avila) encompasses three distinct roles. He is the tribal leader in prehistoric times and the visitor who will suck the blood of the slave Aphrodisia while she is on the cross.
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Margot
Governor
She's the famous one because she was indigenous and thus, a heroine to her people. There was another one, howerver, who was part of the Spanish ruling class at the time. She collaborated with the rebels. I don't remember her name, but I will. Bartolina was part of an Indian rebellion, together with Tupac Katari who led a blockade of the city. He too was executed, his limbs torn by horses.
Good find, in any case.
Good find, in any case.
Margot
Governor
The crowds grow impatient. They want to see Justine brought to justice, they want to see her and her companions suffer the wrath of their lord and master,Monsieur Rodin. They want to witness the event and not loose one detail. Are feet nailed? svippo asks at the Crux Foundation So when is it actually available??? the one who identifies himself as 624132 demands from the same pages, while Phlebas proclaims I like it
to the world of Crux. As I write this, [color="#FF66FF"]JUSTINE[/color] is in the expert hands of Amy, who is looking it over, sending her comments to the director, Jac, for possible little changes to a shot here, a shot there. Jac has until Monday to make the changes and send the end result back to Amy. After that, he'll be engaged going up a river, on a raft, a young woman by his side, in an adventure he's already calling it Avila, The Wrath of God.
The GIMP forum explodes with a discussion of Nudity, centering in none other than Bea. Hope Bea is totally nude, it goes against everything Vermeer represents!!! Damn it!!!!!!!!!! Waylon cries out from this pages. Bea looks down from her cross, the bleeding whip marks still fresh, the sun penetrating her soft skin, she does not say anything, the look in her eyes say it all.
A Canadian quotes Reine Margot: Full nudity and torture in one movie can be a double edge sword. Sure, it may sell more copies in the less public arena, like this wonderful site, but it may be limited to how far it can go in more "mainstream" places like movie houses, film festivals, television and so on…. to wonder: Television? Seriously? I may have to bite the bullet and start subscribing to cable. I'd take the torture of partially nude Bea over endless reruns of The Big Bang Theory. And he might get his wish... for cable to offer torture and nudity, total or partial, in a production that will bring it to people in the comfort of their homes. Although Television is but only one option from the many now available to watch our movies. You can download them, buy a DVD and you can even stream them from Vimeo. If you go to our site now to either download, buy more than one DVD you get a 30% discount! Imagine that. It's so easy now.
Waylon begs of Bea, Please be TOTALLLY nude!!!!! And Ralphus responds in that witty style of his You can hope all you want, but I think you have 2 chances of seeing Bea's pussy...slim and none. Every single still that Margot has released shows her lower portion wrapped up in a loincloth (or as Petelobo calls it, a diaper). I think it's pretty obvious she won't do full nudity, plus Margot dodged the question when I asked her directly, so there's your answer right there. To which I say...no big deal. Would I prefer full nudity? Of course, and so would everyone else. But does it matter to the torture aspect of the story? That remains to be seen. If she can act and scream and suffer convincingly on film, I'll likely be a happy camper. God knows she has the good looks, so we're more than halfway there already.
Directing one amazing actress like Amy or Carmen on a film where she must be put through torture, lots of torture, is not an easy task. Directing TWO actresses on the same movie to be tortured over and over is twice as difficult. Directing THREE actresses to go through hell as the same time is three times as hard. So many possibilities. So many chances of fucking it up. So many opportunities for glorious shots.... and so little money and so little time. Those are the realities Jac had to face when making JUSTINE. There's the vision, sure, a grandiose vision, and there's the actual work and the reality of the set, the equipment, the team and most importantly, the actresses who must perform those nasty actions over and over in front of the crew. But on top of it all, there is the creative aspect of it. The reasons why a scene is the way it is. What each character has to contribute to the story and what is her/his role in it. The sum of all these factors equals the end result in the scene. And that's all that matters at the end. There will be a million different reactions to the film from a million different viewers... ok, maybe a few thousand. Will the film fulfill the fantasies or wishes of those few thousand viewers? Of course not. That never happens, ever... ever... never... not at all. Will the film have an impact on its intended audience? Yes, definitely.
Waylon insisted on his plight: Thank you Ralphus for the feedback!!! Guess I'm kind of glad, I haven't ordered Justine. I need to search the forum for Margot. Why would she play head games? Knowing what what most men want to see. After examining the Vermeer website, naught of total nudity just doesn't corroborate with past releases.. Lurker10 responded to his plight thus: Margot is Vermeer Works publicity flack. As such it is her job to justify to you fanboys whatever the bosses have decided is necessary to maximize their income and other goals in the short and long term. Which are not your goals. If you're into psychological torture, see how she writhes on the hot griddle of your frustrated perverted imaginations. Or maybe she's laughing at you, because she's inside and you are not. You could offer to be her replacement, but I doubt any of you have a thick enough hide for it, and would be too easily distracted.
I'm an insider, sure, but I'm not inside Amy's head, or Mila's, or Bea's or Jac's. I know what's going on but not what goes on beyond what they let us see. A lot goes on there, really a lot. There are some small and big dramas being played in their real world. I'm the bearer of the news, the announcements, the promotions and I can respond to queries. Do I play with people's heads. Not very likely. I'm definitely not laughing at anyone and I'm glad what I say has some weight. I haven't seen the film. I haven't seen the shooting of most of the scenes. I get the images that either Jac, Miguel or Amy had the time to process. Most of the images of the Making Of were taken with Jac's iPad and the "photographer" was either the gaffer during his time off when most in the crew sit there bored while the scene is recorded, or one of the assistants. Jac transfers those pictures to his computer and sends some of them to me. Amy, who did lost of selfies and gave Jac her iPhone to take some pictures, also sends a few to me, or she publish them in FB and I download those. So, to be honest, I have very little control on what to publish here or elsewhere. If anyone would be so extremely lucky as to do my job, they would be very frustrated not knowing a lot more of what goes on than I do.
Waylon lurker10, Thank you for feedback, as FREE SPEECH is Awesome! Not ill-intent toward Margot, just a query regarding an attractive young lady (actually two (2))upon feedback received from fellow forum commentators. Pervert? I guess so, aren't we living a progressive era? Peace!!!
Queries are what this is all about and no, I don't ever see ill-intent towards me. I see myself a little like CJ in The West Wing. Answering questions, delivering the news and struggling to get those who control the information, the producers/directors, to release enough for me to do my job and do it right. Sometimes I get ahead of myself and I might release something that was not meant to be known... yet. Sometimes I might express the general feeling or frustration I sense in the work. Sometimes I might express my own opinion, out of frustration for what I see as unfair and sometimes I might get over excited, in either case I find myself being chastised for what I said or did that was not proper.
A Canadian lurker10 wrote: You could offer to be her replacement, but I doubt any of you have a thick enough hide for it, and would be too easily distracted. I'm not sure about the "thick enough hide" part (that kind of hurts my feelings smile ), but as far as "too easily distracted" goes, I'm sure that's true.
I often wonder how the male members of our crew feel when we're shooting the movies we make. Here they are, in front of beautiful women who are naked, or almost naked, suffering untold miseries at the hands of Jac... or Eric, and they can't do anything about it except watch silently. Tough job. They can get easily distracted, for sure.
NEWS UPDATE. I have word that Amy and Jac had a long conversation after she saw the film. She loved it, however she came up with some smart suggestions and told Jac where she thinks the film needs some extra work. So... there will be more cutting in the next few days before Jac goes on his trip up the river in the Amazonian rainforest. I have word that there will be some extra work on the sound as well. More news about this later!
That's it for now! I will return with more news about the release of JUSTINE!
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