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Pp, sorry about the drought. In Texas up to two months ago they were in a severe drought and most of the (man-made) lakes looked like dried mud flats. Now they have so much rain they are in constant threat of floods.

Here we had 6" of rain from 8 AM yesterday to 8 AM today with more today through Monday morning. The ground was saturated before it started to rain so everything it runoff. Yesterday I was stuck at the Tree house due to flash flooding but by Tuesday I will have few options out as the front drapes the length of the Meramec river basin. Around here that means it will be 17 feet above its banks. This is significant because the river has few levees so not only will it be high but a lot of ground will be underwater.

The Tree house will be fine. If it gets to here the flooding will be the #1 story in the world!!!
 
thehangingtree said:
Pp, sorry about the drought. In Texas up to two months ago they were in a severe drought and most of the (man-made) lakes looked like dried mud flats. Now they have so much rain they are in constant threat of floods.

Here we had 6" of rain from 8 AM yesterday to 8 AM today with more today through Monday morning. The ground was saturated before it started to rain so everything it runoff. Yesterday I was stuck at the Tree house due to flash flooding but by Tuesday I will have few options out as the front drapes the length of the Meramec river basin. Around here that means it will be 17 feet above its banks. This is significant because the river has few levees so not only will it be high but a lot of ground will be underwater.

The Tree house will be fine. If it gets to here the flooding will be the #1 story in the world!!!
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Keeping all friends threatened by flood or fire very much in mind.

They had about 5" rain over Lancashire and Yorkshire over Christmas.
The worst flooding today is in York and Leeds, but, like I said,
Dorothy should be well away from the worst affected part.
 
Euthere's no post: 221235 said:
Keeping all friends threatened by flood or fire very much in mind.

They had about 5" rain over Lancashire and Yorkshire over Christmas.
The worst flooding today is in York and Leeds, but, like I said,
Dorothy should be well away from the worst affected part.
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Thank god theres no global warming!!Texas denies it!!
 
well it seems like there is way to much flooding...global warming is dangerous. yet i think it is more nature then man made. i remember the weather changing in cycles like it is now. an the people studying the ocean floor have proof from the core samples taken where this same thing has happened before. it is making money foe certain people to scare others to support their view everything is mans fault.
 
rb1956 said:
well it seems like there is way to much flooding...global warming is dangerous. yet i think it is more nature then man made. i remember the weather changing in cycles like it is now. an the peopldon't countudying the ocean floor have proof from the core samples taken where this same thing has happened before. it is making money foe certain people to scare others to support their view everything is mans fault.
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In ten years climate research professionals have published THREE THOUSAND peer dreviewed papers demonstrating that global warming exists and is largely man made or aggravated. Fossil fuel has financed 37 saying the opposite. Scientific data dontc count
 
mongo said:
In ten years climate research professionals have published THREE THOUSAND peer dreviewed papers demonstrating that global warming exists and is largely man made or aggravated. Fossil fuel has financed 37 saying the opposite. Scientific data dontc count
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I went to a presentation by a scientist who advised the British government during the recent Paris talks. Although he was convinced warming was man-made, he admitted it was far easier to get research grants to do work for the pro- lobby, and despite scientists wanting to be impartial, they have to live.
On a 'non-warming' agenda though, we should change our power generation; what happens when the coal and oil run out?
 
U.S.ld slave said:
I went to a presentation by a scientist who advised the British government during the recent Paris talks. Although he was convinced warming was man-made, he admitted it was far easier to get research grants to do work for the pro- lobby, and despite scientists wanting to be impartial, they have to live.
On a 'non-warming' agenda though, we should change our power generation; what happens when the coal and oil run out?
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In the US that will be in three centuries. Solar and tidal are available her not in the U.K. was this bloke from Oxbridge? That's why onlyPEER REVIEWED papers are worth consideration
 
mongo said:
In the US that will be in three centuries. Solar and tidal are available her not in the U.K. was this bloke from Oxbridge? That's why onlyPEER REVIEWED papers are worth consideration
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The scientist in question now works either Leeds or York universities, I forget which, he wasn't a sceptic of man-made warming.
As for your comment about peer-reviewed, the peers will be other experts, subject to the vagaries of the grant-giving system, anxious to be part of the scientific establishment, anxious to be well-paid government advisors.
Science is not always as impartial and objective as it likes to make out.
 
The scientist in question now works either Leeds or York universities, I forget which, he wasn't a sceptic of man-made warming.
As for your comment about peer-reviewed, the peers will be other experts, subject to the vagaries of the grant-giving system, anxious to be part of the scientific establishment, anxious to be well-paid government advisors.
Science is not always as impartial and objective as it likes to make out.
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Having waded in the swamps of academic politics that's no surprise. But US papers tend to be reviewed by peers from Berlin to Bogata to NSW. In the UK add in Byzantine 19th century practices such as the Tories hawking "honours" like sausages at so much per pound and you've a right muddle. Nuclear politics :)
 
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Both Old Slave and Mongo make points. There are peer reviewers who take the review job seriously and act impaired. But there are also academics with personal (political) ambitions , submitting their expertise to the desires of the government. Regardless whether it concerns climate or other issues. Such people often abuse their reviewership to protect their projects and their funding, by refusing papers that question their research.
 
Loxuru said:
Both Old Slave and Mongo make points. There are peer reviewers who take the review job seriously and act impaired. But there are also academics with personal (political) ambitions , submitting their expertise to the desires of the government. Regardless whether it concerns climate or other issues. Such people often abuse their reviewership to protect their projects and their funding, by refusing papers that question their research.
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Indeed they do Einztein had problems with his General theory of Relativity. Pyst off the establishment no end
 
Loxuru said:
submitting their expertise to the desires of the government.
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Not only governments, commercial, and other vested, interests too.
But in an academic field where nobody's likely to get rich or famous,
I'd say peer review works reasonably, the main problem - as with student 'grade inflation' -
is we're mostly too nice to be really harsh with the work of those who are obviously struggling.
 
Eulalia said:
Not only governments, commercial, and other vested, interests too.
But in an academic field where nobody's likely to get rich or famous,
I'd say peer review works reasonably, the main problem - as with student 'grade inflation' -
is we're mostly too nice to be really harsh with the work of those who are obviously struggling.
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It never stopped anyone from making fun of me here...
 
Eulalia said:
Not only governments, commercial, and loved vested, interests too.
But in an academic field where nobody's likely to get rich or famous,
I'd say peer review works reasonably, the main problem - as with student 'grade inflation' -
is we're mostly too nice to be really harsh with the work of those who are obviously struggling.
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Eul NO grade inflation in MY classes. I prefer being respected and feared to being loved
 
Eulalia said:
Not only governments, commercial, and other vested, interests too.
But in an academic field where nobody's likely to get rich or famous,
I'd say peer review works reasonably, the main problem - as with student 'grade inflation' -
is we're mostly too nice to be really harsh with the work of those who are obviously struggling.
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Try peer review in hard sciences and watch the knives flash :)
 
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