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Yeah, converting the time on the cross into minutes really drives home how long it took. One day is 1,440 minutes right? So three days on the cross becomes 4320 minutes on the cross. Imagine being told that you would suffer at least four thousand minutes once the nails went in. One week is just under ten thousand minutes; imagine spending just half of that time on the cross. Or perhaps like Andyman they went for the higher bound, the longest possible time on the cross, in order to scare the victim.
I do disagree with Crumera, I think that the victim would remain mostly lucid throughout the process. Although sleep deprivation might intensify the more neurotic responses to crucifixion.
 
Exactly, the muscles cramping and weakening would cause the death far quicker than in 7 days, especially if counted together with sleep depriving. In fact it WAS sometimes possible to live more than three days without sedile/cornu and no horizontal support for feet - but only if victim was being cared for (especially being given drinks) and if the patibulum was tied to the stipes instead of nailed and was removed after the last spectators went home in the evening so the victim could have a rest for the cramping muscles and was able even sleep a little (some sources confirmed this technique), however it must be relatively rarely used; maybe when some public enemy number one was executed. And of course in this case the victim would really HANG for some 12-15 hours only per day, which means that during this week he/she was hanging for some 5000 minutes and not 10000. Ten tousand minutes or more was possible only in the "second type of crucifixion", which leaded to starvation, with the support for feet or cornu/sedile or other special solutions (for example tying the knees to the stipes in order to keep legs straight and totally immobilize victim in relatively comfortable/safe position) causing the agony to be much longer but causing much less intense pain in wounds. Of course no one could hang on wrists and feet only ("first type of crucifixion") for a week and 24/7.
 
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Shut up please and don't interrupt me contemplating your muscles actions. As you know I am very interested in drawing and I must collect much experience. And you make a perfect model for me. Your legs and hands muscles work wonderfully when you lifted your ass up. And your belly muscles are strong and beautiful and your lower belly is worth looking at carefully, together with your lips which you are so funny closing when hanging on hands and open when you are lifting up and pushing forward your cunt! But please stop bothering me as I am not at all impressed with your sobs and tears. You was the worst maid I ever had! I am really happy that my father got rid of such inattentive, untidy and forgetful servant! I think you fully deserved these nails! I was far more sad when my doggie died a month ago than now when I know that you will rot here. So, now shut up and continue to dance and I will watch you and perhaps make some sketches.
 

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Shut up please and don't interrupt me contemplating your muscles actions. As you know I am very interested in drawing and I must collect much experience. And you make a perfect model for me. Your legs and hands muscles work wonderfully when you lifted your ass up. And your belly muscles are strong and beautiful and your lower belly is worth looking at carefully, together with your lips which you are so funny closing when hanging on hands and open when you are lifting up and pushing forward your cunt! But please stop bothering me as I am not at all impressed with your sobs and tears. You was the worst maid I ever had! I am really happy that my father got rid of such inattentive, untidy and forgetful servant! I think you fully deserved these nails! I was far more sad when my doggie died a month ago than now when I know that you will rot here. So, now shut up and continue to dance and I will watch you and perhaps make some sketches.
A long time ago ancestor of Andyman!?:D
 
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What did you intend this to mean?
This is the problem with translating the text into English. Of course I tried to think in English but I am not as fluent as needed to do it correctly every time. I meant she was still sure she was sentenced to be flogged and not killed. So when she realised that they were going to scourge the front of her body, she was upset because she was afraid of the scars from whipping on her face, breasts and so on.
 
I was often interested in medieval and renaissance techniques for imaging the crucified Christ or the tortured saints. The painters sometimes tried to make the spectators sure that the portrayed personage was stripped naked but in the same time they wanted to avoid showing his or her nakedness, because their paintings were often intended to be exhibited in churches. So they used a semi-transparent loincloth, an untied loincloth (fluttering in the wind) or even the loincloth partially covering the body and partially revealing the intime areas. As a child I couldn't understand how it was possible to crucify someone naked, as well as how it was possible to crucify a female at all, and crucifying a female in the nude was out of my darkest imaginations. That is why I couldn't understand how these untied loincloths were fixed to the bodies, till few years later I realized that these representations were only symbolic and the victims were in fact being crucified in the nude.
 

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I was often interested in medieval and renaissance techniques for imaging the crucified Christ or the tortured saints. The painters sometimes tried to make the spectators sure that the portrayed personage was stripped naked but in the same time they wanted to avoid showing his or her nakedness, because their paintings were often intended to be exhibited in churches. So they used a semi-transparent loincloth, an untied loincloth (fluttering in the wind) or even the loincloth partially covering the body and partially revealing the intime areas. As a child I couldn't understand how it was possible to crucify someone naked, as well as how it was possible to crucify a female at all, and crucifying a female in the nude was out of my darkest imaginations. That is why I couldn't understand how these untied loincloths were fixed to the bodies, till few years later I realized that these representations were only symbolic and the victims were in fact being crucified in the nude.
Few more possibilities are the small additions in the foreground, like flying birds, flocks of butterflies, bunch of flowers or leaves, incident light beams across the image, someone's waving hands, flags or polearms, and so on.
 

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Yesterday three men were sentenced to hang on their crosses. The wife of the emperor wanted to visit our town and the praetor decided to make an ornament at the city gate for this holiday of the naked bodies of condemned criminals. I found this idea very wise and funny. But something went wrong and the main person to be crucified - the robbers' chief Athanius - unexpectedly died before the ceremony begun. There were no other men in prison this day but only two females: me and my pal. We were arrested two days ago because we were thought to be responsible for the issuing of false rumors about the empress visit. Of course we were not, as the interrogation confirmed, and the praetor decided to free us today. The soldiers came for us at the sunrise to lead us out of the prison gate. But instead of setting us free from the shackles they begun watching us carefully and finally the commanding officer said, pointing at me with his finger, "This boobs are pretty big, she will do better." I didn't undertand him and I thought it was rather rude but soon I realised that they wanted me to do something for them at the city gate - maybe sing or dance at the empress arrival, I thought. They knew I could dance and sing very well! So they set us free and they led me to the gate where all the patricians waited for the empress. I noticed many of my friends too, standing at the opposite side, and my brother and sister with her husband. The men condemned to death were just nailed to the crosses, they were nude with their weenies exposed, so I started to laugh at them because they were so funny and looked dumb with their weenies hanging. I noticed of course that the cross in the middle was empty. I was curious and I asked the officer what they were going to do with the lacking criminal, but he told me to prepare myself to the belly dance so I took off my dress and now I was wearing only a pearl and silver brocaded loincloth so for the moment I covered nipples of my naked breasts with palms, and in the same moment I was punched in face twice and the soldiers grabbed my hands from behind and the officer untied my loincloth leaving me naked, and then they forced me to lie on the ground and I lied down crying with pain and shame, but before I could realize what they were going to do, sharp spikes pierced my wrists. I was totally shocked with an unexpected, horrid pain, and I started to scream loudly and to uncontrollably pissing myself but they didn't even wait till I finished and I felt I was lifted to the top of the stipes still peeing and just after I finished they hammered my feet together. "I am innocent, why do you want to kill me!?", I yelled, and the officer answered me "Yes, you are. So, you will die innocent!", and laughed and then I noticed that everyone were extremely curious and begun to talk about me and to show me to one another with their fingers and commenting my feminine rounds. Hearing their rude words and laughter - although I was dying with pain - I realized once again that I was naked and I begun to weep and sob, and I was weeping for a long time so I didn't notice that the empress' procession arrived and that she halted the procession and now she was standing with her maids and attendants looking at us and especially at me and I felt I was dying with the utmost shame, and she asked the officer about something but I overheard the question and his answer, but then she turned her head and shouted loudly to her cortage: "See and remember how the Rome punishes the criminals!" and then I tried to tell her, still sobing, "I am not a criminal, your highness, please, have mercy on me!", and she heard me and ordered the officer to punish my impudence and he got closer to me and smited my face with his sword's head, nearly breaking my jaw. Stunned with this new pain I didn't notice that it was only a prelude to the really monstrous punishment because they begun to put some heavy packages under my feet and just after half a minute more when I saw the flames shooting around me and I felt my legs and buttocks and vulva and belly were burning I realized they wanted to burn me alive! I was writhing and crying and shouting and I heard them laughing at me and it was torment unbearable and it lasted for a long, long time of the most painful torture I ever experienced and finally I felt that my legs gave way and they could hold me no longer and I slipped down to the roaring flames and I felt that my ass and my genitals are being roasted and my breasts and face scorched and I am no longer a woman but an enormous burning pile of pain, and when all my body turned into the boiling, bubbling and smoking unrecognizable mass of roasted, blackened, stinking meat in a shape of a woman, according to the empress' wish, I lost conciousness for the last time in my life.
Waow, nice story....Crux pyre is the worse way to die. Be cruxed, tortured ... and after die in the flames in absolute pain.
 
Waow, nice story....Crux pyre is the worse way to die. Be cruxed, tortured ... and after die in the flames in absolute pain.
I must agree with you. However we can add some more actions which are really terrible, the most painful, and we know that they sometimes were used. In my opinion the most horrid death combination will be flaying (skinning) + crucifixion (including vertical impalement, i.e. impalement through genitals or anus) + burning alive. We have at least one historical account of a combination of flaying and impalement of a female, however it was not a Roman invention but a splendid idea of an infamous Wallachian ruler, Vlad Dracula aka The Impaler. In my opinion it was one of the most brutal executions and of an innocent wife of a villager, who had sewn him too short shirt due to the linen fabric shortage. Vlad ordered her to be flayed and impaled in the very middle of a village with her skin exposed under the stake. The only weak point from my point of view is the fact that a skinned victim looks very strange and not exciting at all, and she is no longer naked in the sense of the nakedness we are familiar to (with bare skin exposed) but only in the same sense as the skeleton is naked. Of course she must be stripped full naked before the flaying and the pain caused later by the flames licking the ripped apart tissues instead of bare skin must be really unimaginable, but anyway the flaying itself spoils the further show.
 
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That’s part of the appeal of the cross to me; it’s an execution that shows a tremendous amount of skin by default, even in the most prudish depictions. Unlike beheading or hanging where the victim was very often still fully dressed, crucifixion was an execution that occurred in the nude. That’s why I’m not a huge fan of flaying, burning, or extreme scourging, it removes too much of the skin, and the victim becomes a bloody pulp instead of a beautiful women. It’s disfiguring. Four tiny nail holes are subtle by comparison. I’m quite sure there weren’t any sexy crucifixions, but the crucifixion off women lends itself to sexual fantasy much more readily than other executions. Go ahead and imagine a woman being raped while burning alive or flayed. Now imagine a women nailed to the cross being raped. It lends itself much easier to those dark BDSM fantasies.
 
...In fact it WAS sometimes possible to live more than three days without sedile/cornu and no horizontal support for feet - but only if victim was being cared for (especially being given drinks) and if the patibulum was tied to the stipes instead of nailed and was removed after the last spectators went home in the evening so the victim could have a rest for the cramping muscles and was able even sleep a little (some sources confirmed this technique)...
"Good night, my beloved! Try to catch some sleep if you can before they will hung us again at the very break of day..."
 

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Once again I tried to make a linocut. This time Timothy and Maura. Or other generic husband and wife, as I didn't show them haloed. The white skinned man and the black skinned woman. Equal in their fate, however the woman, especially of barbaric origin, as usual was not considered by the ancient Romans as socially equal, and that's why I decided to follow my previous considerations and to represent her without a loincloth, while her husband had been given one. The original size: a square, approximately 2,5"/2,5" (6x6 cm). Here you are the scan of the original print (hand made with a violet carbon paper) and a contrasted (photoshopped) image of the same.
 

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