The Coffee Shop

[Frank Petrexa]

Remember the day started at sunset. But there do indeed seem to be some chronological discrepancies between John and the Synoptics. There may have been some vagueness or confusion - just as there is in our own time about which when exactly Christmas starts, so which night is Twelfth Night.

Yeah, I've heard that argument: John and Mark start the "day" at different times. (I'm surprised they don't claim the international date line used to run through Syria or something, or cite Antioch Daylight time.) But Mark is very clear that the room is "booked" on the "day the Pascal lamb is sacrificed", and after nightfall (new day) Jesus and the disciples eat a Passover meal. In John, the Jewish religious bigwigs will not go into the Praetorium to denounce Jesus because they would be "defiled" and unable to "eat the Passover" (which Mark says is already over). Pilate is still dithering about crucifying Jesus at the sixth hour in John. In Mark, he is crucified at the third hour, and darkness comes at the sixth hour. I guess you could argue that John supposedly wrote in Ephesus and Mark in Rome, and there was a lag. But as the late Raymond Brown (a Catholic priest and biblical scholar who believed the Bible says exactly what God wants it to say, warts and all) says, there is really no way to reconcile the two.

 

[montycrusto]

hoi par'autou, I'd translate as 'those around/ about him'

Eulalia could be dumped naked in the middle of zero-century Judaea and would know how to ask directions to the nearest slave market..

 

[malins]

Eulalia could be dumped naked in the middle of zero-century Judaea and would know how to ask directions to the nearest slave market..

Are self-auctioning slaves a thing?

 

[RacingRodent]

Are self-auctioning slaves a thing?

Yes, historically attested in Roman controlled regions, China and elsewhere in time of hardship.

 

[montycrusto]

Yes, historically attested in Roman controlled regions, China and elsewhere in time of hardship.

But since slaves can’t own money, I’d suggest the cash be handed over to a suitable authority ( me )

 

[RacingRodent]

But since slaves can’t own money, I’d suggest the cash be handed over to a suitable authority ( me )

I think people usually sold themselves to raise money for the rest of their family.

 

[Rias]

in spartacus blood and sand series this blond hair boy who is best friend of spartacus was naughty gambler like squirrel and sold yourself to gladiators school to give hes family money and later sent money to family from winning fights meow

 

[malins]

Yes, historically attested in Roman controlled regions, China and elsewhere in time of hardship.

But since slaves can’t own money, I’d suggest the cash be handed over to a suitable authority ( me )

Now if a person is in debt, it's easy to understand ... the money goes to the creditor as does the value of work.

But imagine the scenario ... a prospective 'slave-girl' just sort of ... shows up ... no family or relations in place

In terms of security it may in fact be easier for her to find an 'owner' rather than try to survive on her own, as she would have no guardians/protectors

Of course one could say she's just up for grabs ... finders, keepers

though probably people would say a girl just showing up like that from nowhere is impossible, she must be a runaway, crucify her...

Eulalia could be dumped naked in the middle of zero-century Judaea...

and that then would be the quick and tragic end of the time travel ... chronoscientists will have to find a way around the restrictions of time travel ... the ugly facts that no possessions can be taken along, so travelers always appear naked, and the strange phenomenon that only young women seem to survive the trip ... for some subtle biological difference, the men's brains get scrambled ...

 

[RacingRodent]

the men's brains get scrambled ...

So no discernable effects then

 

[montycrusto]

men's brains get scrambled ...

Whaaat?? Men have brains???

 

[Hugin&Munin]

Whaaat?? Men have brains???

Yes, they are a bit crazy sometimes, but it's a medical fact: men have brains.

 

[fallenmystic]

Whaaat?? Men have brains???

 

[montycrusto]

I think that’s a bit of a “Straw man” argument

 

[fallenmystic]

I think that’s a bit of a “Straw man” argument

At least, it's better than a witch hunting

P.S.: I intended to post that "Ding-Dong the Witch is Dead" song to complete the joke but realized that it's a bit lame one. So, I'll give you this one instead - a heart-warming reunion of the duo more than 20 years later:

 

[Jollyrei]

Of course one could say she's just up for grabs ... finders, keepers

though probably people would say a girl just showing up like that from nowhere is impossible, she must be a runaway, crucify her...

That certainly sounds like something that someone at CF would do.

 

[Crux-Emperor Baracus X]

Whaaat?? Men have brains???

Between their legs,according to females.(who's brains are elsewhere,apparently....)

 

[malins]

That certainly sounds like something that someone at CF would do.

Yeah we've got that figured out by now!
... not that knowing roughly what to expect really helps in avoiding it ...

.. and who would that "someone" be!?!?

 

[Migoz2]

and who would that "someone" be!?!?

Form an orderly queue

 

[malins]

Form an orderly queue

While all those guys are bickering about who gets to go first nailing me I guess that's the last chance to BOLT!!!!

 

[Rias]

oho and squirrel must drink at morning coffee to start squirrel brain meow