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As an example of the need to read carefully stories on anything, especially, COVID.
Today, from CNBC, a source that is generally reliable and almost non-partisan and avoids excess.
Coronavirus: Health workers dying at ‘horrific rates’
At least 7,000 health workers around the world have died as a result of contracting the coronavirus, according to analysis published by Amnesty International.
“Many months into the pandemic, health workers are still dying at horrific rates in countries such as Mexico, Brazil and the USA, while the rapid spread of infections in South Africa and India show the need for all states to take action,” Steve Cockburn, head of economic and social justice at Amnesty International, said in a statement. "For over seven thousand people to die while trying to save others is a crisis on a staggering scale."

This caught my eye since my daughter is an ER Nurse in NYC (she is fine)
It goes on to say that so far 1,000 HCW have died in the US. But no context is provided. Here are a few indisputable facts. HCW make up about 5% of the US population (not workers but the entire population). HCW deaths of 1,000 would be just over 0.5% of deaths, a rate 1/10th that of the general population. We accept that HCW take extra risks all the time in terms of infectious diseases, that is part of the job, sad but true. Just as fire-fighters have greater risk from fires. We respect and honor them for it, but the fact is not "horrific."
It is true that in Mexico, for instance, HCW make up a much higher 2% of deaths. However, due to poor reporting of deaths not in hospital, this number may be greater exaggerated. But I have trouble calling it horrific. From the data provided it is clear that Mexico is an outlier that skews the totals. If you remove Mexico from the totals. you have 5,700 HCW deaths out of 825,000 or about 0.65%.

 
Yes, it has been a pandemic of bad statistics, for sure. Early on I signed up for the daily briefings from the Office for National Statistics, which are a helpful guide to what can (and can't) be measured reliably, and they're precise about what they're collecting, how and when. After an early fear that workers in the NHS (from doctors to cleaning staff) were at greatest risk, it turned out that death-rates among them were hardly different from the general population. Workers in care homes (like the residents), and nurses and carers visiting private homes, turned out to be at much greater risk, as did various other categories in high contact with the public - e.g. public transport staff and taxi drivers, security personnel, etc.
 
Yes, it has been a pandemic of bad statistics, for sure. Early on I signed up for the daily briefings from the Office for National Statistics, which are a helpful guide to what can (and can't) be measured reliably, and they're precise about what they're collecting, how and when. After an early fear that workers in the NHS (from doctors to cleaning staff) were at greatest risk, it turned out that death-rates among them were hardly different from the general population. Workers in care homes (like the residents), and nurses and carers visiting private homes, turned out to be at much greater risk, as did various other categories in high contact with the public - e.g. public transport staff and taxi drivers, security personnel, etc.
Yery Good. Early on here, there was a big noise about the heroes, underpaid grocery workers taking terrible risks to allow us to buy foods. Thre was a serious move in Congress to require employers to double their pay for "hazard duty," for the duration of the pandemic.
Later, statistics released by the grocery workers union showed they had a lower infection rate than the general public.
 
Oh squirrel, the quarantine didn't do you any good. If you're not careful, you'll soon be walking around with a simmer.

I lost weight going into quarantine (yay! :tmnt:), put weight back on during quarantine :eek: and have now lost sufficient weight I might actually qualify as a genuine 32" (81cm) waist :campeon: which I last did age 35.

untitled.png I shall now reward myself with cake and undo all the good work :devil2:
 
I lost weight going into quarantine (yay! :tmnt:), put weight back on during quarantine :eek: and have now lost sufficient weight I might actually qualify as a genuine 32" (81cm) waist :campeon: which I last did age 35.

View attachment 898128 I shall now reward myself with cake and undo all the good work :devil2:
Oh yes ,a big cake is a very good idea!:hambre:
 
I lost weight going into quarantine (yay! :tmnt:), put weight back on during quarantine :eek: and have now lost sufficient weight I might actually qualify as a genuine 32" (81cm) waist :campeon: which I last did age 35.

View attachment 898128 I shall now reward myself with cake and undo all the good work :devil2:

To avoid "undo[ing] all the good work," RR, get your cake by special delivery. This delivery service guarantees that their delivery personnel will help you work off the calories!

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I lost weight going into quarantine (yay! :tmnt:), put weight back on during quarantine :eek: and have now lost sufficient weight I might actually qualify as a genuine 32" (81cm) waist :campeon: which I last did age 35.

View attachment 898128 I shall now reward myself with cake and undo all the good work :devil2:
I've lost weight during the lockdown - not sure why really, but I suppose it's not having the 'little extras' that makes the difference. And I too have been given a wickedly large and delicious cake which will undo all that virtue.
 
May I suggest attaching heavy chains to prevent you from accidentally floating off into space? :devil:
I think the friend who sent me the surprise cake decided I needed some ballast :p
 
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