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And why pencils, not pens? According to the UK Electoral Commission, there's a greater risk of accidentally spoiling your ballot paper - especially when you fold it, the ink could blot onto another part of the list of candidates, and look as if you've voted for more than one. But it is not illegal to use a pen, the pencils a supplied for convenience, you don't have to use them.
 
Eulalia said:
And why pencils, not pens? According to the UK Electoral Commission, there's a greater risk of accidentally spoiling your ballot paper - especially when you fold it, the ink could blot onto another part of the list of candidates, and look as if you've voted for more than one. But it is not illegal to use a pen, the pencils a supplied for convenience, you don't have to use them.
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That may be different according to the country.
Years ago, I regularly had the 'honour' (drafted for peanuts; Sunday fucked up in the name of democracy) to preside a counting team during elections. A vote casted by a means that was not the regular object (a red pencil) would have been declared non valid, even if it would fit all other criteria of a regular vote. Because it could identify a voter (by his/her claim afterwards), which is against the law.
On one occasion, I have interrupted the counting, because, suddenly a number of votes with a blue pencil showed up. After a brief consultation with the party representatives and the officials, it was decided to count them as regular votes, but the irregularity had to be mentioned in the report.
 
Eulalia said:
And why pencils, not pens? According to the UK Electoral Commission, there's a greater risk of accidentally spoiling your ballot paper - especially when you fold it, the ink could blot onto another part of the list of candidates, and look as if you've voted for more than one. But it is not illegal to use a pen, the pencils a supplied for convenience, you don't have to use them.
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call me old-fashioned but I'm an advocate of good old paper ballots whether using pencil or pen. Most of what has been introduced as electronic systems is miserable in terms of having an audit trail, while you can always do a full independent recount with paper ballots.
 
Loxuru said:
That may be different according to the country.
Years ago, I regularly had the 'honour' (drafted for peanuts; Sunday fucked up in the name of democracy) to preside a counting team during elections. A vote casted by a means that was not the regular object (a red pencil) would have been declared non valid, even if it would fit all other criteria of a regular vote. Because it could identify a voter (by his/her claim afterwards), which is against the law.
On one occasion, I have interrupted the counting, because, suddenly a number of votes with a blue pencil showed up. After a brief consultation with the party representatives and the officials, it was decided to count them as regular votes, but the irregularity had to be mentioned in the report.
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In UK, you can use any writing implement you like - even a glitter pen. And you don't have to put a cross, you can draw a smiley if you want. So long as it's absolutely clear who you're voting for, so long as there's just a clear mark alongside one name or party, the vote will be counted.
 
And at home, the votes are then publicly counted in the presence of interested viewers and then passed on. Always works and then the ballot papers are put in a container that is sealed and counted for a second time.
 
montycrusto said:
In ancient Gaul, when they elected a new chieftain, they placed the ballots inside earthenware pots, then whoever could throw their pot the furthest became the chieftain. I researched this by reading Asterix comics. :p
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Yes, Asterix is historically correct.
 
Heineudo said:
Yes, Asterix is historically correct.
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In addition, I have now ordered a kettle full of magic potion from an online pharmacy. I already have the figure, I just have to fall into the cauldron
 
In ancient Gaul, when they elected a new chieftain, they placed the ballots inside earthenware pots, then whoever could throw their pot the furthest became the chieftain. I researched this by reading Asterix comics. :p

Scots still do it that way - Scottish pol-ing station:

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(cross in the background for the losing candidate)
 
As for a device to mark a ballot, we use a special stamp which somewhat looks like an inverted Half Life video game logo (
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(Image source)
 
Concerning elections and strange - hm - maybe "rather alien" behaviour in an "USA - election video" from a German point of view:
Could you please enlighten me in my confusion and bewilderment about this video?

1. a) What exactly is this lady "Paula White-Cain" doing here in this video concerning the election in the USA?
1. b) Did she really hold a speech when Donald Trump was inaugurated in 2017?


2. Who is that guy running around aimlessly behind her?
3. Why does he have a towel on his arms?
4. Is there any connection with the 42-towels in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
5. Is this a prayer or witchcraft and in which languages?
6. If it is witchcraft, maybe the lady is only successful when a virgin is sacrificed to her "God / Lord of the Flies"?

(There is an explanation of this video in the German TV station "n-tv" ...

www.n-tv.de

Predigerin betet ekstatisch für Trump-Sieg

US-Präsident Trump hat unter den evangelikalen Christen viele Anhänger. Die erzkonservative Predigerin Paula White-Cain betet auf ihre ganz eigene Art dafür, dass er die Wahl gewinnt. Ein Video davon wird in sozialen Netzwerken millionenfach geklickt - und das bei weitem nicht nur von Trump-Fans.
www.n-tv.de www.n-tv.de

... and this TV-station's news are usually only about stock exchanges and shares but I still do not understand this "alien" behaviour of some so-called "human beings" ... )
 
Silent_Water said:
Concerning elections and strange - hm - maybe "rather alien" behaviour in an "USA - election video" from a German point of view:
Could you please enlighten me in my confusion and bewilderment about this video?

1. a) What exactly is this lady "Paula White-Cain" doing here in this video concerning the election in the USA?
1. b) Did she really hold a speech when Donald Trump was inaugurated in 2017?


2. Who is that guy running around aimlessly behind her?
3. Why does he have a towel on his arms?
4. Is there any connection with the 42-towels in "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy"?
5. Is this a prayer or witchcraft and in which languages?
6. If it is witchcraft, maybe the lady is only successful when a virgin is sacrificed to her "God / Lord of the Flies"?

(There is an explanation of this video in the German TV station "n-tv" ...

www.n-tv.de

Predigerin betet ekstatisch für Trump-Sieg

US-Präsident Trump hat unter den evangelikalen Christen viele Anhänger. Die erzkonservative Predigerin Paula White-Cain betet auf ihre ganz eigene Art dafür, dass er die Wahl gewinnt. Ein Video davon wird in sozialen Netzwerken millionenfach geklickt - und das bei weitem nicht nur von Trump-Fans.
www.n-tv.de www.n-tv.de

... and this TV-station's news are usually only about stock exchanges and shares but I still do not understand this "alien" behaviour of some so-called "human beings" ... )
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She says angelic forces are coming to the USA from Africa and South America. Too bad they'll get locked up in cages at the transit camps before they ever get anywhere near being able to help anything. :thinking: :D
 
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