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I think the first image is vastly superior as attention is focused very much on the girl on the cross. The addition of the crawling girl in the background distracts from this. Nobody was paying her much attention anyway. Also the composition of the first pic does more closely follow the Rules of Thirds which for some reason does tend to make the overall effect more pleasing and draws the eyes to your main subject.
I think I have to disagree. The addition of the girl on the ground creates more drama. She may be pleading for her life or - in line with Phlebas' story - for the life of her handmaiden. The change in lighting makes the two women stand out more. And, who here is not going to notice the girl on the cross?
 
I think I have to disagree. The addition of the girl on the ground creates more drama. She may be pleading for her life or - in line with Phlebas' story - for the life of her handmaiden. The change in lighting makes the two women stand out more. And, who here is not going to notice the girl on the cross?
Agreed, the more the merrier. Also, the woman and her assailant help fill the blurry gap left by omitting the man on his horse from the image. Also, what's better, the possibility of three girls being crucified or four girls nailed onto crosses and crucified?
 
Agreed, the more the merrier. Also, the woman and her assailant help fill the blurry gap left by omitting the man on his horse from the image. Also, what's better, the possibility of three girls being crucified or four girls nailed onto crosses and crucified?

I agree. an image with several girls in it can be very thought provoking. for example if you have a young woman crucified on a cross in the foreground, naked and obviously having been tortured prior to crucifixion, with several naked females in the background being flogged while attached to x-frames, it certainly gets the imagination racing. anyone got any images like that?
 
I agree. an image with several girls in it can be very thought provoking. for example if you have a young woman crucified on a cross in the foreground, naked and obviously having been tortured prior to crucifixion, with several naked females in the background being flogged while attached to x-frames, it certainly gets the imagination racing. anyone got any images like that?
I'll see what I can find in my picture collection.
 
Here is a better version, I got rid of the balding "retainer" and added another soldier. Well, I agree with those that prefer more action, as long as it 'works' as a composition.

Enjoy, and I look forward to the member input.
 

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Here is a better version, I got rid of the balding "retainer" and added another soldier. Well, I agree with those that prefer more action, as long as it 'works' as a composition.

Enjoy, and I look forward to the member input.
Don't worry, all eyes still gravitate to the lovely lady on the cross, so mission accomplished! Your work is inspirational, to say the least.
 
Vercingetorix is complete forgotten.................we, the crux fetish, see only the women who writhe in agony, that was your intention isn't?
 
Thanks for the complements. Vercingetorix is in my fantasy still in the image, far left, being brought in chains to witness the torture and death of his daughter, after which he will be taken to Rome to be displayed, abused and taunted and eventually executed in the arena. I don't know if that's what really happened, but I'm sure Jedakk or one of the other historically accurate writers can illuminate us.
 
meanwhile, here's a poem your great work has led me to:

Vae Victis!

They made us fetch the rods.
Bare-legged we waded
out through the thigh-spattering mud
of Willow-Mere.

Gods! If we'd known –
with those sharp flints,
we should have sliced our wrist-veins.

But we obeyed,
brought our new masters
sallows, slim, springy,
supple to slice
our girlhood's softness.

Now it's my turn.

Sushnik, that tough little herd-kid -
she could snap saplings
with her bare fingers,
strip off the green bark
between her teeth,
to suck the sap -
they've made her screech.

I didn't watch, but had to hear
her angry shouts turn, stroke by stroke,
to squeals, then screams,
then shrieks of wild despair,
skirl of a mountain-pipe's lament
growing faint in the smoky air.

And now I see her,
grasping and biting at the unyielding oak,
winding well-muscled thighs
round its rough hide,
while they unbind
her tight-torqued wrists.

They let her body drop,
tumble, tormented, twitching
on the charred earth.
There she rolls over,
clutches her bleeding breast.

Me and my little sisters,
bare as me, huddling, terrified,
hauled by tough man-hulks,
we're made to march uphill,
to where the cross of cruelty stands,
and two more, smaller ones,
they're lifting up beside.

I'm shoved to step
over the sturdy shanks
of shuddering Sushnik,
hear her soft sob,
my bare feet splash in her blood.

We're tied, wrists and ankles,
knotted till we squeal,
tight to our crosses -
not like she was, breasts to the wood,
but facing out
to where my parents kneel half-naked,
shackled, before a high-seat,
where sits a togaed Roman,

Eyeing us
with the look my father used to give
the small black heifers
when the hill-men came,
to trade them for our grain.

A soldier speaks to him,
I hear my name,
Rukhsna. He nods,
speaks a few words,
the legionary gives command,

"It is the Tribune's will
that these brats never shall
birth, breed or feed,
whelps of the wolf's brood.

So flagellators, do your work fully -
beat them so your canes break,
flay them down to raw flesh,
flog them till their bitch-paps
and festering birth-parts
bolter and burst with blood!"
Note for non-Latininists: vae victis = "woe to the conquered!"
It's a phrase that sums up the Roman attitude, on the battlefield, in the arena,
or in a newly conquered village.
It's from Livy, though he put it in the mouth of a Gaul, Brennus, when they had the upper hand in the early days of Rome.
 
meanwhile, here's a poem your great work has led me to:

Vae Victis!

They made us fetch the rods.
Bare-legged we waded
out through the thigh-spattering mud
of Willow-Mere.

Gods! If we'd known –
with those sharp flints,
we should have sliced our wrist-veins.

But we obeyed,
brought our new masters
sallows, slim, springy,
supple to slice
our girlhood's softness.

Now it's my turn.

Sushnik, that tough little herd-kid -
she could snap saplings
with her bare fingers,
strip off the green bark
between her teeth,
to suck the sap -
they've made her screech.

I didn't watch, but had to hear
her angry shouts turn, stroke by stroke,
to squeals, then screams,
then shrieks of wild despair,
skirl of a mountain-pipe's lament
growing faint in the smoky air.

And now I see her,
grasping and biting at the unyielding oak,
winding well-muscled thighs
round its rough hide,
while they unbind
her tight-torqued wrists.

They let her body drop,
tumble, tormented, twitching
on the charred earth.
There she rolls over,
clutches her bleeding breast.

Me and my little sisters,
bare as me, huddling, terrified,
hauled by tough man-hulks,
we're made to march uphill,
to where the cross of cruelty stands,
and two more, smaller ones,
they're lifting up beside.

I'm shoved to step
over the sturdy shanks
of shuddering Sushnik,
hear her soft sob,
my bare feet splash in her blood.

We're tied, wrists and ankles,
knotted till we squeal,
tight to our crosses -
not like she was, breasts to the wood,
but facing out
to where my parents kneel half-naked,
shackled, before a high-seat,
where sits a togaed Roman,

Eyeing us
with the look my father used to give
the small black heifers
when the hill-men came,
to trade them for our grain.

A soldier speaks to him,
I hear my name,
Rukhsna. He nods,
speaks a few words,
the legionary gives command,

"It is the Tribune's will
that these brats never shall
birth, breed or feed,
whelps of the wolf's brood.

So flagellators, do your work fully -
beat them so your canes break,
flay them down to raw flesh,
flog them till their bitch-paps
and festering birth-parts
bolter and burst with blood!"
Note for non-Latininists: vae victis = "woe to the conquered!"
It's a phrase that sums up the Roman attitude, on the battlefield, in the arena,
or in a newly conquered village.
It's from Livy, though he put it in the mouth of a Gaul, Brennus, when they had the upper hand in the early days of Rome.
That is beautiful!
 
Here is a better version, I got rid of the balding "retainer" and added another soldier. Well, I agree with those that prefer more action, as long as it 'works' as a composition.

Enjoy, and I look forward to the member input.
I love the two girls in the bottom right - what are they thinking? Are they afraid or excited? Are they thinking "we will be hanging there soon...."? I think that they are feeling a wonderful mixture of emotions..... Sweet things.... ready for nails and whips....
 
that's the greatness of Damian's images,
they always make me wonder about what's come before,
and - especially - what's coming next for the girls he portrays,
he sets my mind off imagining exciting, dreadful things for them!​
 
Here are some I offer for the New Year!

May it be a lot better year that 2013 and happiness and freedom will prevail.
 

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