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Crucifixion And You: How Did The Idea Start?

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Eulalia said:
I wanted to meet my monster
Loxuru said:
That's the 'core' of the desire, to my opinion.
Me and my beast; fail to feed it and it's I who starves, nourish it too much and I'm afraid it swallows me..
Eulalia, your name on the forum is well chosen not only for an ancient companion of your soul, but also as you really do speak beautifully, for yourself but also for many who can't attain that ability.
 
How did you become interested in crucifixion and why did you want to experience one? Where did the idea come from?

In my case, it’s related to some strange desire I was born with. Wishing to be in the place of persons (male and female) being tied up or being in some other perils (and from the early days I realized it was some kind of a taboo I would better keep to myself). It clearly has evolved throughout the years. In my puberty, it became associated with erotic feelings. In those days in the seclusion of my sleeping room, I played ‘stories’ ending up into ‘my’ execution. Curiously, crucifixion was not one of my favorites, because, being an atheist, that way of execution was too much related to religion.
My attitude toward crucifixion changed after reading Hubert Montheilet’s novel Neropolis, describing the practice of Roman crucifixion, and after stumbling on some rare pics of nude female crucifixion (which were difficult to find in the pre-internet era). My preference evolved further towards executions characterized by slow agony. Shooting, hanging, burning, drowning, … became less attractive. Crucifixion on the other hand, came more in the spotlight.
Internet did the rest, making plenty pics and stories available. I started writing stories myself, and did also some drawing. Probably, it all belongs to the wide field of ‘masochism’, although I have little interest in traditional aspects of masochism, such as leather play, submission for the sake of submission, or master-slave relationships. My condemned characters (which I project on myself, e.g. by writing in the first person narrator) are people with some social status, falling down by such things as their power abuse, opportunism, certain crimes, or being a rebel or a renegade. At the end, justice is done (but not necessarily by a fair trial or prosecution). Their execution, and the interaction thereby between the naked, humiliated and struggling condemned and the onlookers and justice officials, and mutually between the condemned (I prefer group executions) is an ultimate time of (in)fame for the condemned. That is an aspect I like to explore.
Still, I find it strange, that deep desire to die in such a horrifying way. Erotic romanticizing I guess. Would I ever participate in a play, in the role of a condemned? Perhaps, but only with people I would trust, and being allowed to participate in setting the rules.
 
As I said before, my interest came from me being a Christian. I love JESUS CHRIST SUPERSTAR. GODSPELL is an influence too. I've seen almost every Jesus film known to man. As a child, I took out children's Bible storybooks and would go straight to the Easter/passion story and look at the pictures.
During the summer holidays and whenever I was alone in the house, I would undress and wear a white turtleneck, undies or a towel around my waist. I would wear Mom's housecoat or a flannel nightie I would find in her closet and walk around the house as Jesus.
I'd do a one-man Passion Play. Quoting lines from JESUS OF NAZARETH as I acted out certain scenes by myself.
I'd go down to the basement, strip off, stand naked in a doorway and imagine I was being whipped. Or, if I wanted to feel the whip, I'd smack my back with a leather belt. Sometime, for the crown of thorns, I would wear a headband or tie the housecoat around my head. Other times, I would find a long twig from a tree and wind it around my head, making sure there were parts of the twig that I could dig into my forehead (a la the thorns). Dressing myself again, I'd go back upstairs and do the sentencing scene.
Then I'd walk around the house carrying a board that would find in the garage and bring inside. Strip off, lie on it, pretend to be nailed down. Then I would "hang" from a window frame or from the fireplace hearth, fully nude and in crucifix pose. This would be for at least 20-30 minutes, quoting the lines from the cross.
This is what I would do as a teen (all through my teen years) and early into my 20's.
Everything took about a couple of hours and I would make sure that everything was back to "normal" by the time my parents would come home from work.
Hey, I wasn't hurting anybody. Plus, I was living in the country. :)

Simpson.
 
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Well, as I said in the welcome thread, I was crucified several times when I was 10yo.

A friend of mine, 15 or 16yo, put me into the "game", I used to go to his house in the afternoons to play really old videogames in his Nintendo, some day he told me about the game of Jesus, in this play he will be Pilate, then the whiper, then the soldier, and me be just Jesus, he teach me everything about the crucifixion and we made a real size cross (my size) and he tied me to it and let me hung for about an hour sometimes, and believe me, I really liked the game, I loved how he gently whipped me in my back, then how he take for my arm and put me in the cross to tie my arms and feet, then with a hammer he just hammer the wood near my hands and feet and I scream of the "pain", then lift the cross with me in it and secure to the floor.

It was very exiting to me, I think this is something I born with, and my friend just awake this in me. When I reach his house sometimes I ask him about "today we will do the Jesus stuff?", and if he said yes I undress everything but my undies, I was barechest and barefoot, but never without my undies, and sometimes som ketchup, sometimes a real crown of thorns, we did this so many times that we start to seek the perfection in owr play, doing this more and more real, I did'nt have any trouble if I suffer some pain in the whipping scene or in the cross, I really liked.

Time has passed and my friend becomes my boyfriend but after some time we never played this anymore, but I keep the desire to be crucified, and see people crucified too, acting of course.

It's incredible the sensation in the cross, I just cannot describe it, now I am a grown up but sometimes when I have the chance I tie myself to a wall and hung naked for 1 hour o more, and I have fantasies as I am an executioner and crucify both men and women in very imaginative shapes.

I think this is a lifestyle, our lifestyle, and for long time I thought I was alone with my fetish, but internet proof me the oposite, am glad to be in this forum and read your wonderful cross-related stories :)
 
My interest started. When I played Jesus in a school play and it happened in the school. Hall where after the. Trial and flogging then hung on the climbing frame during rehearsals the four guards who were my mates said we want to flog you then crucify you. Naked but in the play I wore a loincloth I would like to do it again sometime
 
These stories are amazing! Thanks for sharing. Fascinating stuff all round

And the unforgettable moments of near-embarassement. It happened twice in my early twenties. Home alone, time for some naked self-bondage. Once tied myself to a roof support in the attic. Another time I was lying face down, my wrists an ankles tied to a broomstick. 'Ready to get my whipping'. Suddenly and unexpectedly, a relative comes home. Scrambling for getting untied and dressed.:):mad:
 
It was when they stripped me before tying me onto my bed for the crucifixion. I was totally naked they stretched me out and then tied me down I was like that. For 25 mins then said the last seven sentences that Jesus said by the time we finished my mouth was dry and I was covered ina film of sweat
 
Well, as I said in the welcome thread, I was crucified several times when I was 10yo.

A friend of mine, 15 or 16yo, put me into the "game", I used to go to his house in the afternoons to play really old videogames in his Nintendo, some day he told me about the game of Jesus, in this play he will be Pilate, then the whiper, then the soldier, and me be just Jesus, he teach me everything about the crucifixion and we made a real size cross (my size) and he tied me to it and let me hung for about an hour sometimes, and believe me, I really liked the game, I loved how he gently whipped me in my back, then how he take for my arm and put me in the cross to tie my arms and feet, then with a hammer he just hammer the wood near my hands and feet and I scream of the "pain", then lift the cross with me in it and secure to the floor.

It was very exiting to me, I think this is something I born with, and my friend just awake this in me. When I reach his house sometimes I ask him about "today we will do the Jesus stuff?", and if he said yes I undress everything but my undies, I was barechest and barefoot, but never without my undies, and sometimes som ketchup, sometimes a real crown of thorns, we did this so many times that we start to seek the perfection in owr play, doing this more and more real, I did'nt have any trouble if I suffer some pain in the whipping scene or in the cross, I really liked.

Time has passed and my friend becomes my boyfriend but after some time we never played this anymore, but I keep the desire to be crucified, and see people crucified too, acting of course.

It's incredible the sensation in the cross, I just cannot describe it, now I am a grown up but sometimes when I have the chance I tie myself to a wall and hung naked for 1 hour o more, and I have fantasies as I am an executioner and crucify both men and women in very imaginative shapes.

I think this is a lifestyle, our lifestyle, and for long time I thought I was alone with my fetish, but internet proof me the oposite, am glad to be in this forum and read your wonderful cross-related stories :)


WOW!! I wish I had a friend who did that with me when I was that age. The story sounds amazing!

You say the cross was your size. How high was it? Were your feet on the floor? Did you have to carry it? How often did this happen?

Simpson.
 
You say the cross was your size. How high was it? Were your feet on the floor? Did you have to carry it? How often did this happen?

The first times I just stand on a wall with my arms wide open and one feet over the other, this started because we saw a movie of Jesus in the TV and he just ask me if sometime I ever thought about being crucified, obviously I said no, he asked me how I would feel if I were crucified for real, I just said "i would cry I think", then I dont know why we started to play that movie by ourselves, as I said the fist times only on a wall, naked only with my underwear, but my arms got tired very soon so another day he just tied me to a fence and just ask me how I felt, I said "tired, unconfortable", it seems he like see me suffer at some point.

Being shirtless and barefoot was natural in my because I live near to the beach, and in an eternall summer, so being half naked didnt upset me in any way. Anyway, for a kid like me, and all others I think, play some game about being "killed" as in a war by example, or to be tortured or tied is very normal and likeable, at least for me, I always liked this kind of game as a kid, where I was condenmed to die or alike.

Later I had the big idea to build a real cross for me with wood from his backyard, and we did, very simply, let's say my height was 4 feet, then the cross could be about 7 or 8 feet, my first time in that cross was a disaster because he tied mi hands and feet to it and just lift me up to a hole in the ground who serves to drain water in his backyard, but as my cross havent any foot rest I almost die in that attempt :) it was horrible and I almost dislocated both shoulders, very awful, then we put a foot rest and it was another story, very good sensation, tied to it meanwhile he just look at me, of course as we acting the Jesus movie I acted as well in the cross by having an acted "very painful experience", all acting of course, the thruth is I was very confortable there, later we did it with some ketchup, a real crown of thorns and fake nails made of cardboard, I loved that game, I learned the 7 words perfectly, he gave lemonade with a sponge when I was "thirsty" and even some cookies, I was in the cross for about a half an hour but I think I could being crucified for hours, or days, or months maybe, but sometimes I had to go to pee :) I never pee on the cross, actualy I was never totally naked in the cross.

Later we saw more Jesus movies and tryed to acting similar, with variants on the cross, more "blood", more "pain", it was really funny for me, and I think, sexually speaking, this was the moment I started to like BDSM :)

We did this game very often, when we were bored of playing something else and specially when there was nobody else in his home.

I think the last time we played the cross stuff was when I had 12yo, he never seems to be atracted to me when I was younger, but I loved him already, so when I grew up more we become very good friends :) then we never played the cross anymore, then I moved to another city and no one crucified me never, but I like to see pictures of crucified people and passion plays, it really turns me on.
 
As far as I know, it was never made into a movie and hardly likely to be. It's a book published in 1957 that focused on the crucifixion of Christ, and in the process elaborated on the details of crucifixion. At twelve years old, it was both shocking and titillating; I had never imagined how agonizing and slow death by crucifixion was, and had trouble grasping it even then. And then the idea that they actually crucified people naked? It boggled the mind.

It was a book by Jim Bishop, who wrote a number of books about the deaths of famous people like Lincoln, Kennedy, and others.

When I Googled it I found a u tube video of 4 parts. Part 4 is the passion sequence. Not bad The Day Christ Died video.
 
The Robe?

Wow! Overacting and so not real !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
When I Googled it I found a u tube video of 4 parts. Part 4 is the passion sequence. Not bad The Day Christ Died video.

Yeah, it has the same title, but that is nothing like the book I read. Jim Bishop's book was fairly well researched and had a lot of background on Roman crucifixion practice. I say it was "fairly well" researched because there were a number of things he wrote as fact that are unsubstantiated as it turns out. I only mentioned the book originally because it was what set my own obsession into motion.

Anyway, in the video Christ's scourging is more like a hard spanking. I didn't see anything about crucifixion practices, everyone had clothes on, and they seemed to be in a big hurry, like they were running short on film or didn't want to pay the extras for overtime.
 
I know, I know. The title is long. It's the only way I could think of putting one there.

So...

How did you become interested in crucifixion and why did you want to experience one? Where did the idea come from?

Speaking for myself, I became interested in wanting to play Jesus in JCS and passion plays (one of which, I wrote as a teen and still thinking about whether or not posting) and other Biblical films. Also, it's also because I'm a Christian. So, I'm coming to it from an acting perspective.

Discuss...

Simpson.

Unlike many here, my admiration and fantasy for the crucifixion started not by religion, but by the allure of being a slave bdsm, without nails, more pleasure than pain. Being hung on a cross, totally naked with men and women watching is very exciting
 
Yeah, it has the same title, but that is nothing like the book I read. Jim Bishop's book was fairly well researched and had a lot of background on Roman crucifixion practice. I say it was "fairly well" researched because there were a number of things he wrote as fact that are unsubstantiated as it turns out. I only mentioned the book originally because it was what set my own obsession into motion.

Anyway, in the video Christ's scourging is more like a hard spanking. I didn't see anything about crucifixion practices, everyone had clothes on, and they seemed to be in a big hurry, like they were running short on film or didn't want to pay the extras for overtime.

I found the film on YouTube. Interesting. However, the film here ends just after the first nail is driven into Jesus' hand. Perhaps there's more to the film that what's on the net?

Simpson.
 
I haven't responded to this question because I've answered it before in other threads. But, since those threads are probably buried on the back pages, I'll tell my story again.

I was raised in the Methodist Church, which, like most Protestant religions, places very little emphasis on Jesus' crucifixion. I believe my interest in BDSM was hardwired into my brain, but it was stimulated & feed in childhood by the horror & adventure movies I watched on TV, especially the Italian peplum films. It was further developed by the men's adventure magazines with scantily clad women menaced by Nazis & the like that my father kept hidden in the garage.

Although crucifixion did figure into those movies, I didn't discover the special eroticism of the cross until I ventured onto the internet in the early 2000s.

Sites like this have helped me discover a whole new world of world of pain & humiliation. I would like to thank you all for that.:devil:
 
I believe my fascination with crucifixion stated in Catholic grade school. During Easter time the nuns would go into great detail explaining the passion of Christ and even encourage us to meditate on his suffering. And I did. I particularly imagined I was flogged and the nailed to a crucifix. Later I would act out these tortures in private. I am lucky I didn't get caught or get tied up in something I couldn't get out of.

Later I became interested in other forms of torture getting ideas from men's adventure magazines popular in my day. As a young boy I would go to the news stand and look at all the pictures until they threw me out. I liked German prison tortures, westerns and Native American tortures. Later during the Cold War I pretended to be captured by the Russians.

I thought I was the only one who had these thoughts until later when I discovered web sites such as this. I enjoy hearing of others experiences.
 
This is a piece I wrote soon after I came to the Forums,
it's in the Archive but not on a public thread any more,
so I'll copy it here:

Girly Games

by eulalia


Little girls' games – in Scotland and England, and surely bairns all over the world play the same! – often involve one girl being picked to kneel in the middle of the ring while the others mock my. Other girls used to hate it when they were picked, but this one used to hope it would be her! I loved chasing games, too, being hunted like a deer through the woods – I always loved it when I was the one counted out to be chased.

We used to play 'slaves' on our way to and from school – one girl had to carry everyone's bags, while the others smacked me and prodded me and shouted to make me hurry. Again, other girls used to moan, but this girl would say "Let me be the slave, please!"

Around puberty, of course I became more aware of my body, how I looked, what parts I should display, what parts I should hide. I wasn't a 'sexy' teenager, a little Lolita, I didn't try like some girls do to attract male attention – I used to hitch my skirt up over my belt on my way to school so the boys (and, I knew quite well, male teachers too) could get a good view of my nice legs, but all my friends did that too, and I just liked (and still like) the feeling of cool air on my skin.

I remember becoming very aware of my vulnerability, how the bare skin of my legs, back, waist – whatever parts were exposed, especially in summer, could be gazed at, touched and even whipped: yes, by 11 or 12 I was excited by whipping! In Scotland until very recently it wasn't unusual for girls to be beaten with the Tawse, a leather strap, on our hands, legs or buttocks – in England, where I went to secondary school, only a slipper was used, and less often. Still, this girl was regularly beaten on her bum wearing only thin cotton gym-knickers, for messing about in the changing-room!

But I wasn't frightened of being vulnerable, or even of the Tawse, I found it thrilling. It was this delight in being naked and vulnerable that made me like to sleep nude, no matter what my parents said to try to stop me – and I still do! So I enjoyed any activities where I could change into light clothing – shorts, briefs, leotard, swimsuit etc. At the swimming pool, for example, I'd get my friends to make me a 'human sacrifice', leading me ceremoniously up to the diving board and throwing me in!

My parents weren't very keen on organised religion, but I liked going to church! The local vicar (we were in England then) was Anglo-Catholic (= "high church" Episcopalian) and I loved the chanting, bells, candles, incense, bright windows and vestments, and - perhaps especially - the 'spiritual aerobics', standing up sitting, kneeling - yes, especially kneeling. I can remember as a young teenager getting quite orgasmic thrills from the whole business, I knew it was naughty, I ought not to be having such feelings and thoughts, but didn't understand why.

But crucifixes in church or elsewhere didn't have much impact on me, they were very stylised and just part of the decorations. The only crucifix incident that sticks in my memory was when I was 11 – I was with my parents on holiday in Spain when I was struck with acute appendicitis. I was rushed into a hospital that was run by an order of nuns. I remember lying on a trolley looking up at a life-size, brightly-painted image of Christ on the Cross. There was a livid bleeding wound across his lower abdomen, "Jesus!" I was thinking, "did they take out your appendix on the Cross!"

I first got excited about Crucifixion at school. A master thought it a good idea to give his 12 year olds a series of lessons, pretty well blow-by-blow, on the Crucifixion of Christ. He could hardly have guessed (or could he?!) the impact he was having on the dark-haired little kid near the back of the class whose big brown eyes grew wider at each gory detail! After that I did begin to look with more interest at crucifixes and pictures of Crucifixion, imagining how they did it, how it felt, experimenting with my own body in that position in the gym, at the swimming baths, etc.

And a bit later I discovered the story of St. Eulalia in a little book of saints belonging to a 'churchy' great-aunt. The idea of a 13-year-old girl like myself being scourged, racked, torn with Hooks, and tied on an X Cross to be roasted to death, while she went on being spunky and cheeky to her Tormentors, filled me with delight!

Stories and pictures about Classical women facing exciting fates, invariably more or less naked, also fed my appetite. I loved to imagine myself in such situations, e.g. leaning my bikini-clad body against a rock on the sea-shore, stretching up my arms to an old mooring ring, being Andromeda watching the waves and waiting for the monster who will come and devour me (I didn't want Perseus turning up to 'rescue' me and spoiling my fun, I wanted to meet my monster!)

There was a path on my way home from school that passed through rough woodland, where the bushes grew dense in summer. A gang of boys used to hide in there sometimes and ambush us girls, leaping out with long, prickly bramble-stems and wrapping them round our bodies and legs – it hurt like hell, and if you struggled it only made it much worse, so you were trapped, and they wouldn't let you go until they'd searched your bag and pockets for sweets, crisps or anything else they fancied for 'ransom' and you'd earned your freedom with kisses! You could go round another, longer way to avoid this trap, but if you didn't want to be teased and called a wimp, you just saved up the sweets and crisps your mum had put as treats in your lunchbox, hitched up your skirt, and walked bravely down what we girls called The Martyr's Path! I got 'captured' several times – it didn't upset me, I found it quite exciting, hurrying through the woods wondering if the boys were waiting for me, and when I was their captive they said I was 'good sport', 'cos I always made sure I'd got plenty of 'ransom' for them, and when they'd helped themselves to that I'd kiss them 'properly' to earn my freedom! The sight of brambles when I walk in the woods still sends a shiver up my thighs!

So, by the time I was entering adolescence, there's no doubt my true dharma, the most right and natural way for me to live, was emerging: to be naked and vulnerable, to be whipped and tortured and crucified, to be a victim – but not a pathetic one, I'm a brave, spunky kid like St. Eulalia, I'm eager to face monsters naked like Andromeda, I'm 'good sport' for my captors.

But of course, the 'normal' expectations, of parents, teachers, peer-group, hemmed me in and forced me to try to suppress my real self. It didn't work, it only made me unhappy, depressed, impossible to live with. Boyfriends, and later male partners, found me hard to understand – though I loved trying to please them, they either found my submissiveness irritating or an excuse to abuse me. So it's not surprising that I experienced a series of increasingly disastrous relationships. I felt there was something wrong with me, I felt guilty and ashamed. Yet I knew in my heart that it wasn't wrong, it couldn't be, it was – and is – my true self.

And at last I've discovered on Crux Forums a place where I can explore and express this important part of myself without feeling bad and ashamed and screwed up about it. Through my poems, stories and fantasies, I can be my true self, and if they give pleasure to my friends and visitors on the Forum, that makes me very, very happy!
Wow Eul! Xxx
 
This raises a related question I've been wondering about:
I know that some of us - I'm thinking of you, Yupar - were raised in non-Christian countries. But, is there anyone here who was not raised in a Christian household? In other words, was anyone raised Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, etc?
 
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