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Now let's see what will happen to my account. Especially since I alwaysw refused to charge or to pay anything.
Doing something without any financial interest seems to be a concept they just can't grasp aan it looks that they are hellbend to destroy what they don't understand.
 
Now let's see what will happen to my account. Especially since I alwaysw refused to charge or to pay anything.
Doing something without any financial interest seems to be a concept they just can't grasp aan it looks that they are hellbend to destroy what they don't understand.
That's because they're now being run by a pathetic tribe of greedy corporatists - they can't understand anything that doesn't have a bunch of $$$ attached :(

Fucking losers :mad:

If you intend to offer your work for free and they then decide to charge for access, then you should remove all your content from there and place it somewhere else. The bottom line is this; If they are charging access fees, then the contributing artists must be finacially rewarded for providing their content.
 
They really should change the name of the site to “Deviant Money” to reflect their priorities. :BangHead:

Hello Monty,

This isn't in reply to you exactly. I'm just happy.

Sadly, they are a business and Deviant Money pretty much sums them up. I've been thinking about publishing some of the disgraceful depravity I write and I've discovered that when I try, I'll become business fodder. That's just the way of the world.

Don't be angry people. Pornographic wickedness is still pouring onto DA, posted by hundreds of new people who haven't read the rules, every day. DA has been forced to concede that this too is the way of the world, this too is worthy business fodder.

I like the idea of a spectrum, with pure art at one end and voracious, grasping money lust at the other. We are all somewhere between the two. Art is only pure until you sell it, then it's just varying degrees of business. Our art of course is sex. No one is going to claim otherwise with any credibility, we all know why we do it don't we? Everyone pays for sex. Condoms, Viagra, her who'll dress in leather and thrash you to within inches of your credit card all cost shed loads. That's all on the business/art spectrum.

I'm relaxed enough to accept that my writing is only literary masturbation. All my role playing and the hours I spend intoxicated by my need for submission are only ever kinky sex. I'm a slut and I'm astonished that the internet provides me with the mechanism through which I can behave like the filthy fucking whore I love to play, artistically of course. I'm horrified by the thought that my loved ones could know I do it, which means if I do publish anything, I'll need to be vague about my inspiration.

If there's more to you than an ache to bring your erotic, dark desires to life and you want to sell your art, then you too are a business and must set out across a wilderness of subscription, tax, agency, risk and investment however unpalatable that is.

I'm have to admit that I'm still enjoying DA, people still message me and it's still the point of contact with those who want to explore the dark side it always was. Even Eclipse, unrelieved fuck up fest that it once was, seems to be running smoothly now. DA makes me grateful for Cruxforums. I think positively and understand what a jewel in the matrix of commerce and capitalism CF is.

Just to put DA in perspective, I opened an account on Wattpad, for writers, thinking it would be a suitable platform to spread myself out on. I think it had something like 70 million users worldwide. In the terms and conditions it said "Role play will not be tolerated, you pervert!" Consequently there was little passion to be read anywhere and it might well have been the most boring website it's ever been my frustration to trawl for fun.

Look up, look forward my friends. Put your hopes and aspirations out there and The Universe will hear you. Looking back is a waste of head space isn't it?
 
Happiness is strictly prohibited on this forum, and is most severely punished ;)
I'm sorry Sir. I've been whipped and figged, and dismissed at the point of orgasm twice daily this week. My poor subby brain was so soaked in kinky sex hormones I was blissed off my head with how cruelly I've been treated. I'd like to promise it won't happen again but my disgraceful weakness makes that pretty much inevitable. I have nothing to look forward to but unrelenting happiness!
 
Many sites or other internet initiatives that started as a free ideal at first, become commercial at some point. Sometimes this happens because the initiative is taken over by commercial parties and sometimes because it has grown too big and can't be afforded without some form of commercialism. It may also very well be something like the restaurant life cycle: introduction, growth, maturity, decline. In the decline phase prices go up and quality goes down. It happens to almost every endeavour.
 
Many sites or other internet initiatives that started as a free ideal at first, become commercial at some point. Sometimes this happens because the initiative is taken over by commercial parties and sometimes because it has grown too big and can't be afforded without some form of commercialism. It may also very well be something like the restaurant life cycle: introduction, growth, maturity, decline. In the decline phase prices go up and quality goes down. It happens to almost every endeavour.
Well, may it never happen to the Forums! :beer-toast1:
 

the devianart is really for idiots, so if I don't pay, I can't do it, I can't do it, it's forbidden there, and if I pay, it's not allowed there again ....

I don't know which cunt made it up, but obviously evolution didn't give them a brain!

even the fraction of the original artists who still stayed there is leaving ....

amazing, DA is history ... I'll delete the account tomorrow ... I'm thinking of setting up a subscriber, but I'm still thinking about premium pixiev, what's better?

and is there anything better besides pixiev ?? thanks for the reply.
 
is there any good bdsm forum, site or website where I can show even rougher (explicit content?)
Well, that's just the point.

You can go to Pixiv, but officially showing genitals there is not allowed. Up to now nobody seems to care, but you never feel save. Also you never, ever receive any feedback there.

ArtUntamed was founded by (3D) artists who were pissed off by DA. They started out with a lot of sympathy. But, without paying, you could only post 2 pics a day and they had to be downsized, also there was a very limited number of 'galleries' possible, not enough for all of my different stories. Also there are some stories about banning: Emarukk posted a crux picture there, which got deleted, while other people are allowed to show someone getting his head clubbered but it was ok because it said 'Oh, he's still breathing.'

There are some other, mainly Asian, site, but they are just freak shows with colourfull pictures of monster balloon tits and splashing floods of cum.

All this was the reason, why I started (thanks to Migoz for making me aware of the place and to the admins for the warm welcome), why I came here. Still, I don't want to flood this forum with a lot of stuff that is not crux related, so I don't post all my content and I downsize the pictures. And, as pleasant as the community here is, it is a rather small bubble.
On DA my story pictures (even the self-censored ones) still get over 1000 views within a couple of weeks and I still get new watchers, so there is interest in my stuff and I have no idea, where else I could reach such people.
 
Well, that's just the point.

You can go to Pixiv, but officially showing genitals there is not allowed. Up to now nobody seems to care, but you never feel save. Also you never, ever receive any feedback there.

ArtUntamed was founded by (3D) artists who were pissed off by DA. They started out with a lot of sympathy. But, without paying, you could only post 2 pics a day and they had to be downsized, also there was a very limited number of 'galleries' possible, not enough for all of my different stories. Also there are some stories about banning: Emarukk posted a crux picture there, which got deleted, while other people are allowed to show someone getting his head clubbered but it was ok because it said 'Oh, he's still breathing.'

There are some other, mainly Asian, site, but they are just freak shows with colourfull pictures of monster balloon tits and splashing floods of cum.

All this was the reason, why I started (thanks to Migoz for making me aware of the place and to the admins for the warm welcome), why I came here. Still, I don't want to flood this forum with a lot of stuff that is not crux related, so I don't post all my content and I downsize the pictures. And, as pleasant as the community here is, it is a rather small bubble.
On DA my story pictures (even the self-censored ones) still get over 1000 views within a couple of weeks and I still get new watchers, so there is interest in my stuff and I have no idea, where else I could reach such people.
When the crux forum ever ends, I will stop doing bdsm 3d art completely ...
 
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