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Manipulations by Hammers
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Hi Hammers, this is another interesting multi-figure composition, with good relative scaling of the four figures within the scene - good work.
The background has overhead lighting, and the shadows need to have no more density than those which already exist in the scene.
And they should have no more density than the shadows which appear within the figures.
Also, the shadows need to fall in the same direction.
Where the figures in a scene are all subjected to the same lighting conditions, they need to have equal contrast (hardness) unless some of them are much further away (where they may appear softer.)
I have tried to illustrate this for you here.
The rough edge on the left seemed a little distracting, and could be cropped out, although I have over-painted it in this case.
I hope this is useful.
Looking good, Hammers - the shadows are falling in the same direction, and the relative size of the figures determines the scale very well.
The shadows are very dense compared to the figures. The figures could use increased contrast in such a brightly lit scene.
Great work - keep practising your skills and I shall look forward to more pictures from you.
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Looking good, Hammers - the shadows are falling in the same direction, and the relative size of the figures determines the scale very well.
The shadows are very dense compared to the figures. The figures could use increased contrast in such a brightly lit scene.
Great work - keep practising your skills and I shall look forward to more pictures from you.
Thank you Bobinder! Adjustement of light is always rather difficult to me, but I will keep in good evidence your technical advice.
Yes it is also useful to me receiving from you illustration of the corrections.
I understand the problems when you are working in a restrictive application like 'Paint'.
Yes, it is very hard to match colours and effects before putting everything together.
I used to make a lot of experiments before I was satisfied with a picture made purely in 'Paint'.
It would take a long time to complete, and I rarely put more than one figure in it!
You are learning a great deal in a short time.
This one is very good - the human figures blend nicely with the background. I like the "painting" quality of your manips.
Very nice collage style on this one. I really like your artistry here.
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I understand the problems when you are working in a restrictive application like 'Paint'.
Yes, it is very hard to match colours and effects before putting everything together.
I used to make a lot of experiments before I was satisfied with a picture made purely in 'Paint'.
It would take a long time to complete, and I rarely put more than one figure in it!
You are learning a great deal in a short time.
Your encouragement truly is of support to a beginner like myself. Of course Windows 'Paint' has restrictive application as you say.
I am not yet totally familiar with other tools. Please understand that at this stage my knowledge of other tools is limited to a few functions
of 'Paint.Net' integrated with 'Paint'. Yes I experience every day that more patience and time are required by Windows'Paint': however,at least, a certain satisfaction comes to me by the use of free hand.
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Thank you!!!
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You need to work on your cross stock... it is too cartoonish... Otherwise great work!
Now, that is goooood, Hammers!
I just seached for a decent wooden post, one with a nice lot of grain, and then I just flip it around to catch the light, trim off the grassy bit at the bottom if necessary and bingo!
I'll post it in CMCK but I'll put it here too,
Scale, contrast and colour saturation are all looking good here.One more time a manipulation of a Nicholas Poussin's painting:
Again, you have taken care to modify the existing figures before presenting the new scene.
And your digital painting blends in very well with Poussin's original.
Nice work, Hammers!
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Hello Thehangingtree!! Concerning your notes on the crosses' final result please note that this is also related to my inclination not to paste
the figure on a prebuilt cross image but drawing it free hand around the figure itself. This is finalised to obtain a better blending of the figure with the wood. At any rate I will work to eliminate this flaw. Thanks for your appreciation of the rest of my work.
Just a suggestion... You are the artist and I appreciate your work!
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Very kind of you Wragg. It's up to me now trying to put the figure on the preconstructed cross. I trust to be successful, otherwise
I will be obliged to continue by the hard way that is adding wood grains and other particulars by hand.
Many of my crosses are painted by hand - sometimes added around the figure, the way you are currently doing it.
If you vary the colouring, they can be made to look more like wood.
Do what works for you - and whatever you do, be sure to enjoy the creative process.
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Scale, contrast and colour saturation are all looking good here.
Again, you have taken care to modify the existing figures before presenting the new scene.
And your digital painting blends in very well with Poussin's original.
Nice work, Hammers!
Poussin's dramatization of his characters, as you know , is enticing and adding more drama to the scene is a challenge.
May I ask you, please, to indicate one work of Poussin of your preference for a new manipulation?
I'll wait your answer with interest.
Best regards from Hammers
Apart from the issues noted above, the general idea is good, the figures in the foreground appear to be rushing in despair towards the crucified victims in the background.
I see that paint.net is capable of layers. I strongly encourage you to treat the figure and the cross as separate layers. Indeed as you progress you will find that some figures become multiple layers. They can be blended harmoniously in various ways, lighting, contrast, softening edges, adjusting opacity etc. You will be able to introduce much more convincing crosses and reduce all the manual effort that you are putting in.
Many of my crosses are painted by hand - sometimes added around the figure, the way you are currently doing it.
If you vary the colouring, they can be made to look more like wood.
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Do what works for you - and whatever you do, be sure to enjoy the creative process.
Bob, I've been playing with this cross that you posted some time ago. I may eventually post some of the results. I always feel a bit funny about creating manips that use the work of other manip artists.
It seems lazy.I absolutely endorse what Bob says at the end, learn from others but do what works for you, and enjoy. If you don't enjoy producing it, we probably won't enjoy seeing it! It has to come from within you, your own desire and interest driving you to produce something for your own enjoyment.
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Apart from the issues noted above, the general idea is good, the figures in the foreground appear to be rushing in despair towards the crucified victims in the background.
I see that paint.net is capable of layers. I strongly encourage you to treat the figure and the cross as separate layers. Indeed as you progress you will find that some figures become multiple layers. They can be blended harmoniously in various ways, lighting, contrast, softening edges, adjusting opacity etc. You will be able to introduce much more convincing crosses and reduce all the manual effort that you are putting in.
Bob, I've been playing with this cross that you posted some time ago. I may eventually post some of the results. I always feel a bit funny about creating manips that use the work of other manip artists.
I absolutely endorse what Bob says at the end, learn from others but do what works for you, and enjoy. If you don't enjoy producing it, we probably won't enjoy seeing it! It has to come from within you, your own desire and interest driving you to produce something for your own enjoyment.
I read your remarks and exhortations with much interest. I confirm that my purpose is Learning the full use of Paint.Net.
I hope that this could happen in a short time but, as for everything else, the eventual success will involve constant care and time.
I fully agree with the final part of your text endorsing Bobinder's viewpoint.
Finally I wish to thank you for your appreciation of the work I did.
Best regards from
HAMMERS