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malins said:
Anyway the Philippine style devotional foot nailing has been around long enough, and documented well enough that we can say it doesn't lead inevitably to crippling damage and/or sepsis etc.
Though of course being a religious rite ... taking a certain amount of risk (& putting skin in the game) to express the sincerity of devotion is part of the game and if there are consequences well then that was God's will...


What's extremely important here of course is that body weight is not tearing at the nail, and indeed a not too sharp nail that is pushed through gradually will allow all sorts of things to slip out of the way.
They are standing straight up and the nail goes through in the same direction.

It would be a very different matter if the feet were nailed against the post and then, the feet were pushing down with the full weight of the body - even if the nails were initially carefully inserted while say someone was supporting the victim's body, as soon as you'd let go ... such thin diameter nails, once body weight is put upon them, would begin pressing and crushing and finally tearing upward through tissue in a rather ghastly way.

Now if you wanted to write a scenario for a story with a reversible/survivable crucifixion that still used nails,
the way to go would be, to describe a scene where the victim was first roped up,
and allowed to struggle a bit, so that her weight settled in fully into support by the coils of rope.
It would be necessary that the feet are secured quite firmly, not allowing any significant movement.
Then the crucifier could carefully put in nails similar to this. Then even if the feet are placed against the upright post,
so long as the nails are not a load-bearing part of the crux, permanent damage wouldn't be a predetermined fate,
because there's no weight on them. The nails would then be more of a ritualistic statement & experience,
than the primary means of fixing the victim to the cross.

(Disclaimer ofc don't go nailing, don't do anything that's dumb as a bag of hammers, I'm describing something for a 'realistic' story setting not the next session)

Of course the risk would be, slippage of the ropes so that weight would be transferred onto the nails.
Or too much felxibility in the fixation. Apart from usual concerns about circulation etc.
So you would need someone who really knows his rigging...

As for infection risk, again ... if you are putting in a decent effort to keep things clean, you aren't condemned to it.
Some old school medical procedures involve people having e.g. nails through their heelbones for weeks (been there done that) and they are not necessarily kept in a clean-room and disinfected multiple times per day...
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perfect declared, using stainless nails, so that´s like a extreme piercing
 
nailed girl said:
i talked to some locals, they only have scars on their skins from nailing and
self whipping, they clean everything bevore and care about her wounds.
that is part of their religion.
was there on holy friday...too bad they don´t nail willing tourists to cross..
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Their religion is just catholicism, but with some local traditions embedded in it. Every catholic country has a slightly different version of catholicism.
 
I reply just like this. Without make a long and prolonged monologue about this.
Yes, it would be a risk at physical level for everyone. End of the spech.
 
shutter said:
Rebecca and her feet getting nailed during her crucifixion. The nail was hammered in the lower metatarsal part, near the toes.

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shutter said:
And these are her feet after the nail was hammered. Rebecca has a good horizontal footrest, so the nail can be hammered easier in her lower part of the matatarsal more close to her toes area.
Question:
DO YOU SEE ANY OTHER DETAILS OF ABOUT HER FEET APPEAR?
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thehangingtree said:
Well, probably not what you are looking for, but Tree does not like the use of foot rests. You are killing the crucified after all.
By the way, the footrest probably would not last the whole crucifixion the way it is built...
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Everyone, obviously, is free to give their own opinions and make their own reasoning.
This thread is also created for this.
So thank you for your feedback.
I can only tell you that this is my favorite feet nailing position, especially for female crucifixion.
Anyway, thanks. It was interesting to read your opinion on this :)
One question more, what does Rebecca's feet look like nailed, you see there anything else in particular?
 
shutter said:
I can only tell you that this is my favorite feet nailing position, especially for female crucifixion.
Anyway, thanks. It was interesting to read your opinion on this :)
One question more, what does Rebecca's feet look like nailed, you see there anything else in particular?
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I don't think you ever built anything out of wood that has to hold up a person's body...
...her toes are curled???
 
thehangingtree said:
I don't think you ever built anything out of wood that has to hold up a person's body...
...her toes are curled???
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She had a really good wooden support below, trust me! ;)
Yes, so much curled! She scrunches them involuntarly so strongly caused from the acute and countless spasms and cramps released from her toe nerves.
 
shutter said:
@thecuriousone @nailed girl @Loinclothslave @crumera
@thehangingtree @Ramon71
@phlebas
@piedi @Crucified Life
I wanna know your opinions too!
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Well she is standing there.. uncomfortable and quite panful with nails holding her.
Only when her legs are so tired they cannot hold her any longer she will hang from her arms/wrists.
And then she will die, quickly I reckon.

it looks alight.
But I prefer the hanging part in a crucifixion from the start not only at the end.
Footrest I like but not a horizontal one.
I know I made one or 2 pics with horizontal footrest.. but
I prefer the angle of the footrest somewhere between 30 and 60 degrees.
That way is easier to push up then just feet nailed to the vertical beam,
there will be enough force(pain) on the nail from the feet that way to just stand there for a long time

Well that's my 2 cents..
Think it might work for a non lethal crux, but then why not ropes in that case.
Nails in non lethal crux will most likely more or less cripple the limbs.
unless you have magic healing pools or something similar.

think the scene is a derivate from one of the jesus movies? right?
 
Thanks for having reply! :)
This is all correct and really interesting point of view!
I like see and read many different opinions about it!
Yes it's right what you have said.
For sure, keep in mind that the horizontal footrest help a lot the victim to hold on with more strength, but suffer more and prolonged the sufference and the life too.

Why do you think she scrunched her toes so strongly?
 
It would be a very static affair I am afraid.
I will increase the time of being displayed but
I think the hanging and pushing vertical on the nails will hurt lots more.

Trauma does things to limbs, those scrunched toes could be a result form that.
Or just an artistic choice :)
 
piedi said:
Even though I was not invited, I have my say. You can see that the weight of the body is all on one foot. But what strikes me are the fingers that seem to almost grip the wooden palette, a sign of suffering almost to cling to it. Is there perhaps syndactyly?
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I was invited you by tagging you instead! Take a look! :)
shutter said:
@thecuriousone @nailed girl @Loinclothslave @crumera
@thehangingtree @Ramon71
@phlebas
@piedi @Crucified Life
I wanna know your opinions too!
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She has not syndactyly. Rebecca has particularly long toes and yes, it seems that she grabs the footrest side, but she just scrunches so hard her toes catching at the same time the toes of the other foot below.
It's all caused from the nail! For how was hammered!
One of the two executioners while they crucified Rebecca, he has positioned the nail in the lower metatarsal part and piercing most near her toes.
So, yes, it's caused from the suffering too obviously! The nail had damaged her tendons and compriming her nerves. She is curling her toes so strongly involuntarly, because her toe nerves release many after many spasms and cramps to Rebecca.
 
crumera said:
It would be a very static affair I am afraid.
I will increase the time of being displayed but
I think the hanging and pushing vertical on the nails will hurt lots more.

Trauma does things to limbs, those scrunched toes could be a result form that.
Or just an artistic choice :)
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Yep, sure! :)
Obviously with the footrest more inclined than this or totally without footrest, the agony is definitely more painful and generally the victim dies early than this. As i said previously, the horizontal footrest help a lot in this case.
Yes, she scrunches a lot her toes because it's her instinctive and involuntarly reaction of her tendons/nerves that released very powerful and ferocious cramps and spasms reaching her toe nerves making her this type of "fist".

And i add, the artistic choices that faithfully reproduce the trauma caused by nails to nailed limbs (hands, wrists, feet) therefore spasms and cramps, are absolutely the best and most beautiful.
So beautiful that it's as if they were real ;)
 
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shutter said:
@thecuriousone @nailed girl @Loinclothslave @crumera
@thehangingtree @Ramon71
@phlebas
@piedi @Crucified Life
I wanna know your opinions too!
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Well given you specifically asked it would be impolite to not respond I guess. Unsure I have much to say about Rebecca, although I agree with the criticisms of the weak horizontal foot rest. It’s not even my favourite manip on the page and I much prefer these nailed feet:

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I do think the nails require further hammering in to be flush, enough struggling and she might be able to slide along the nails at this point? Not that that matters, it’d be excruciating if they did

Overall I generally prefer the 4 nail technique and this is the position I imagine my feet being nailed… or similar mail position but one foot each side of the stipes. This picture just screams agony to me, if I’m nailed to the cross I expect and desire unendurable agony!
 
Loinclothslave said:
Well given you specifically asked it would be impolite to not respond I guess. Unsure I have much to say about Rebecca, although I agree with the criticisms of the weak horizontal foot rest. It’s not even my favourite manip on the page and I much prefer these nailed feet:

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I do think the nails require further hammering in to be flush, enough struggling and she might be able to slide along the nails at this point? Not that that matters, it’d be excruciating if they did

Overall I generally prefer the 4 nail technique and this is the position I imagine my feet being nailed… or similar mail position but one foot each side of the stipes. This picture just screams agony to me, if I’m nailed to the cross I expect and desire unendurable agony!
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Thanks for the feedback!
Instead, for me, the horizontal footrest and the toes scrunched in agony with the nail hammered in the lower metatarsal part are my favourite.
 
mp5stab said:
That's very specific. Got some examples?
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It is very likely that when the nail is driven into the feet, the nerves and tendons release very strong cramps because of how acute they are.
As a result, what happens? It happens that the nerves in the toes, get damaged and some simply compressed and consecutively the toes curl.
And sometimes clenching into a fist, this is caused by deadly cramps and spasms, as in image 3!

1) Here we see that the cramps and spasms released make the toes (foot above) of this girl in slightly curling down contractions.
2) Her toes are almost totally scrunched, so a very strong spasms and cramps.
3) Well, this woman has her feet in fully agony and then in a lot of sufference! She scrunches her toes in a terrible way.
Here the cramps/spasms in her toe nerves are more than terrible.

1) 2) 3)
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