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A row of nailed feet.. Or is it 2 rows?
 

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shutter said:
I propose to you several nailed feet. Find the differences in them (in which way they are nailed and where the nails were driven). (So, maybe we make more happy crumera)

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The mainly differences are:

For 1) In this woman the nail, we can clearly see that it was driven into the center of her metatarsal. She is curling her toes strongly due to damage to the nerves and tendons that connect the toes to the metatarsal. It is very likely that the nail has severed the tendon/nerve that connects her third toe to the metatarsal and partial damage to the second toe. Obviously broken bones (metatarsals), muscle plantar bands and some veins, as can be seen from the bleeding. It is also very likely that the nail is compressing many other plantar nerves causing countless spasms and nervous cramps in this woman's toes, hence her toes scrunching.

For 2) Here, however, we notice that the toes in the foot below are slightly curled, which means that the nail, in the foot above, has pierced and centered the part between the second and third toe/metatarsal, sparing the respective tendon/nerve, but hitting some of them, at least partially, in the foot below.

For 3) Here we see again the total and partial breaking of some nerves/tendons, and this other woman's toes are curled downwards from the terrible spasms/cramps.

For 4) It would appear that the lower foot is not under the total effect of nervous cramps, while in the upper foot some toes are curled more and others less, a clear symptom caused by spasms and cramps.

For 5) The nerves and tendons are obviously damaged and broken as both nails were driven right into the tendon/nerve ligaments. The toes appear relaxed as most likely the victim is already dead and no longer releasing nerve impulses, or is close to death or has been crucified after countless hours and as a result there is now very little or almost no nerve activity in the nailed limbs.

For 6) Here instead it seems very eloquent that the nail has pierced right through the nerves/tendons of the toes/metatarsal, both of the foot above and below. These are deadly nervous spasms and cramps as we see from the toes that curl in an incredible way.
 
the demage of nerves tendons, bones and blood vessels
depended from the size and shape of the nail,
the sharp edges and tip cut nerves, a rounded tip push the ligaments and nerves aside.
so a small rounded nail cause no permanent demages like the nails that the phillipines
use every year on holy friday
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nailed girl said:
the demage of nerves tendons, bones and blood vessels
depended from the size and shape of the nail,
the sharp edges and tip cut nerves, a rounded tip push the ligaments and nerves aside.
so a small rounded nail cause no permanent demages like the nails that the phillipines
use every year on holy friday
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Still I can’t believe that nailing your feet does not have at least some permanent side effects.
 
thecuriousone said:
Still I can’t believe that nailing your feet does not have at least some permanent side effects.
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I think the truth is it’s rather likely to be permanently damaging without a combination of skill and dumb luck. I suspect the Filipinos shown would be rolling the dice on it, with plenty of fakery in play.

My suggestion is to avoid it, no nails.

If really keen to simulate, tapping pins or tacks through the webs between one’s toes ought to be good enough and far less dangerous. Put some pins under each toenail if seeking more pain so long as they are surgically clean the danger is far less great. Heat them red hot “just for antiseptic purposes” if you really want actual agony! And the pain is exquisite!
 
Anyway the Philippine style devotional foot nailing has been around long enough, and documented well enough that we can say it doesn't lead inevitably to crippling damage and/or sepsis etc.
Though of course being a religious rite ... taking a certain amount of risk (& putting skin in the game) to express the sincerity of devotion is part of the game and if there are consequences well then that was God's will...

nailed girl said:
the demage of nerves tendons, bones and blood vessels depended from the size and shape of the nail, the sharp edges and tip cut nerves, a rounded tip push the ligaments and nerves aside. so a small rounded nail cause no permanent demages like the nails that the phillipines use every year on holy friday
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What's extremely important here of course is that body weight is not tearing at the nail, and indeed a not too sharp nail that is pushed through gradually will allow all sorts of things to slip out of the way.
They are standing straight up and the nail goes through in the same direction.

It would be a very different matter if the feet were nailed against the post and then, the feet were pushing down with the full weight of the body - even if the nails were initially carefully inserted while say someone was supporting the victim's body, as soon as you'd let go ... such thin diameter nails, once body weight is put upon them, would begin pressing and crushing and finally tearing upward through tissue in a rather ghastly way.

Now if you wanted to write a scenario for a story with a reversible/survivable crucifixion that still used nails,
the way to go would be, to describe a scene where the victim was first roped up,
and allowed to struggle a bit, so that her weight settled in fully into support by the coils of rope.
It would be necessary that the feet are secured quite firmly, not allowing any significant movement.
Then the crucifier could carefully put in nails similar to this. Then even if the feet are placed against the upright post,
so long as the nails are not a load-bearing part of the crux, permanent damage wouldn't be a predetermined fate,
because there's no weight on them. The nails would then be more of a ritualistic statement & experience,
than the primary means of fixing the victim to the cross.

(Disclaimer ofc don't go nailing, don't do anything that's dumb as a bag of hammers, I'm describing something for a 'realistic' story setting not the next session)

Of course the risk would be, slippage of the ropes so that weight would be transferred onto the nails.
Or too much felxibility in the fixation. Apart from usual concerns about circulation etc.
So you would need someone who really knows his rigging...

As for infection risk, again ... if you are putting in a decent effort to keep things clean, you aren't condemned to it.
Some old school medical procedures involve people having e.g. nails through their heelbones for weeks (been there done that) and they are not necessarily kept in a clean-room and disinfected multiple times per day...
 
thecuriousone said:
Still I can’t believe that nailing your feet does not have at least some permanent side effects.
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i talked to some locals, they only have scars on their skins from nailing and
self whipping, they clean everything bevore and care about her wounds.
that is part of their religion.
was there on holy friday...too bad they don´t nail willing tourists to cross..
 
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