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Nailing Feet
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vulcan
Governor
it would hold me or you in psition abd the pain would be agony
Oh Messa, those fingers!
Vulcan, that nail is absolutely terrifying
LittleSiss
Sorceress
And exactly like that ... you would not be able to do anything but hang and cramp and spasm.
LittleSiss
Sorceress
Also!
The one foot other the other is just so not realistic or practical. The placement is key! It just never made sense to me. Medieval art, and just that, nothing more.
The one foot other the other is just so not realistic or practical. The placement is key! It just never made sense to me. Medieval art, and just that, nothing more.
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I expect you're right, but it is aesthetically pleasing to look at. The body of the crucified person becomes the same shape as the cross itself. In art, this may be more important, which is why we let artists conceptualize and draw buildings, but we get engineers to build them.
LittleSiss
Sorceress
I expect you're right, but it is aesthetically pleasing to look at. The body of the crucified person becomes the same shape as the cross itself. In art, this may be more important, which is why we let artists conceptualize and draw buildings, but we get engineers to build them.
So true! After all ... I was just drawn this way!
Thanks, Siss. I'm just going to sit down and catch my breath now. Seems a bit warm in here.
Drawn to what? Just love the setting for that manip...chandelier, gauzy drapings, pillows, soft lightiing ... so suggestive of something exciting and beckoning .... goes with the pose
sebastian
Magistrate
Thanks for posting Barb, missed that one first time round. Great manip by MH, nicely posed, feet nailed a little further up the stipes would have exposed you more. It looks a lonely place out there in the arena.View attachment 256980 one of me, done by MermaidHunter, with feet nailed with one nail. Just thought I would share.
Thessela
Beloved slavegirl
View attachment 256980 one of me, done by MermaidHunter, with feet nailed with one nail. Just thought I would share.
You look so beautiful on your cross, Barb!
Sebastian, I could not pull myself up from that position, I'm sure. And the pain! I ca't imagine. Awful. An effort even to keep her thighs closed!
piedi
Executioner
I believe that in both cases the pain is incredible. Perhaps more than in the hands !!!
The bones of the feet are the hardest and this causes a lot of difficulties for the performer to nail.
With a single nail I guess that's more heartbreaking. You feel out the tip of the nail from the foot while superimposed is about to enter another.
The overlay will be torn apart by the diameter of the nail ...
The bones of the feet are the hardest and this causes a lot of difficulties for the performer to nail.
With a single nail I guess that's more heartbreaking. You feel out the tip of the nail from the foot while superimposed is about to enter another.
The overlay will be torn apart by the diameter of the nail ...
naildance
Magistrate
and remember, when the feet are nailed flat on the wood, you will get soon cramps when lifting.
Tygorn
Magistrate
Ave,
here is a piece of classic (medieval) art I just found and I have not seen before fitting to this thread. Even if its done with a "footrest" in this depiction, I love the attention to details as the huge spike emerges from the sole and blood flows from the wound, when Jesus moans in agony and his toes curling from the overwhelming pain while the spike is being driven through his feet.
I agree, that more depictions should set focus on the nailing of the feet instead of only showing the hands/wrists being pierced.
enjoy
best regards
Ty.
here is a piece of classic (medieval) art I just found and I have not seen before fitting to this thread. Even if its done with a "footrest" in this depiction, I love the attention to details as the huge spike emerges from the sole and blood flows from the wound, when Jesus moans in agony and his toes curling from the overwhelming pain while the spike is being driven through his feet.
I agree, that more depictions should set focus on the nailing of the feet instead of only showing the hands/wrists being pierced.
enjoy
best regards
Ty.
Yes, it's an unusual depiction - it's part of the Stations of the Cross in St Michael's, Leuven,
a Jesuit foundation, and I think its 'realism' reflects the Ignatian meditations
on the physical experience of the scenes in the Passion story.
The artist obviously has a bit of a problem with positioning the feet and the nail -
at least he's made it look as if the nail may not go through both feet as intended!
a Jesuit foundation, and I think its 'realism' reflects the Ignatian meditations
on the physical experience of the scenes in the Passion story.
The artist obviously has a bit of a problem with positioning the feet and the nail -
at least he's made it look as if the nail may not go through both feet as intended!
Naraku
Draconarius
I know I've said this before, but the idea of three nails being used to crucify Jesus is not from the Gospels. While the Gospels do say he was nailed - Thomas wants to see the holes - the number & placement of the nails is never mentioned. The notion of three nails & their depiction in art developed much later & is probably related to the "sacred" nature of the number 3: three wise men, three days from crucifixion to resurrection, Peter denying Jesus three times, etc. In other words, it's based on symbolism, not practicality.
Personally, I think four nails is more practical, whether through the foot or the heel. I suspect that through the heel is much more painful, but I have no interest in testing the theory.
Personally, I think four nails is more practical, whether through the foot or the heel. I suspect that through the heel is much more painful, but I have no interest in testing the theory.
Zephyros
Magistrate
In the history of art, there was at the time-range from 13th - 16th cent. a change from 4 nails to 3 nails.
The early Christian art was afraid to represent the Passion or if they did so it was done in a manner which concealed the harsh reality. From the first centuries , there is not a single image of the crucifixion. The cross appears clearly only in the 5th century . Before this time, the cross in the catacombs was shown extremely rare . The representation of the crucifixion took place until the 12th century with four nails. In the following centuries three nails around the body allowed a more artistic movement and a position to make the believers more suffering in mention.
The idea was, to display a more un-natural way of being fixed to the pole and to express more suffering. The possibility to move , when being fixed with 3 nails, is much less then movements will happen by an attachment of 4 nails at each wrist and ankles.
Roman crucifixion was done, when nailed, with four nails ...
It (the victim) was then, as Plautus tells us, fastened with four nails to the wood of the cross (Lact., IV, 13; Senec., Vita beat., 19; Tert., Adv. Jud., x; Justus Lipsius De Cruce, II, vii; xli-ii).
Attached you will find some typical images in the change of the centuries ...
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carlikos
Onlooker
Mmm, let see... I think the nailing through the ankles would more "pleasant" for the victim.
At the moment of the nail are hammered into the calcaneous the pain would be terribly excruciating, then if the executioners hammer the nails deep enpugh to fix both feet securely I think the pain would decrease in minutes, when the crucified moves is not the calcaneous who moves around the nail, is the ankle articulation who moves instead, so the nail in the feet could be a "rest" and no so painful after the victim is hanged in her cross.
In the hands is other story, if the nails are driven through the wrists the pain would be constant because the arms and hands are moving around the nail.
Anyway, this dependes if the nail is round or squared ones, personally If I had the oportunity to crucify Messaline for real (and she knows I want) I would place the nails through the palms and in the feet between the bones of tarsus and no footrest, not necessary to break any bones, but with arms tied I think this would be the more painful experience for any human being, because just moving a little would increase the pain in the flesh arounf the nails and of course the same nails would touch the bones causing more pain an pleasure to me dor watching this
At the moment of the nail are hammered into the calcaneous the pain would be terribly excruciating, then if the executioners hammer the nails deep enpugh to fix both feet securely I think the pain would decrease in minutes, when the crucified moves is not the calcaneous who moves around the nail, is the ankle articulation who moves instead, so the nail in the feet could be a "rest" and no so painful after the victim is hanged in her cross.
In the hands is other story, if the nails are driven through the wrists the pain would be constant because the arms and hands are moving around the nail.
Anyway, this dependes if the nail is round or squared ones, personally If I had the oportunity to crucify Messaline for real (and she knows I want) I would place the nails through the palms and in the feet between the bones of tarsus and no footrest, not necessary to break any bones, but with arms tied I think this would be the more painful experience for any human being, because just moving a little would increase the pain in the flesh arounf the nails and of course the same nails would touch the bones causing more pain an pleasure to me dor watching this
cruxpain72
Magistrate
Roman crucifixion has answers. Nails are penetrated through foot and penetrate condemned heels. It is very painful, but there was some blood. Nails tears apart hills bone