The bm59 looks just like the m14. Perhaps it inspired it?when I served in 1980-81 the rifle of italian Army was the Beretta BM59 7.62x51 mm NATO (.308 Win). In the armoured divisions we had the short version also used by paratroopers and "Alpini"
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our machine gun was the MG42/59 manufactured by Beretta under german license also in 7.62x51 mm
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So the former MG43, converted to the NATO caliber 7.62x51 and with a lower rate of fire, 1200/min-1 instead of 1500. With the option of simply changing a hot barrel. That wasn't possible with the Russian weapons we used. But the parts like the bolt, firing pin, bolt spring and the magazines were the same and could be used in both the assault rifle and the light machine gun.when I served in 1980-81 the rifle of italian Army was the Beretta BM59 7.62x51 mm NATO (.308 Win). In the armoured divisions we had the short version also used by paratroopers and "Alpini"
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our machine gun was the MG42/59 manufactured by Beretta under german license also in 7.62x51 mm
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As far as I know, they are both a design coming from the old Garand M1 making it automatic instead of semi-auto with a removable 20 round magazine. and are very similar even if the Beretta BM 59 was a bit shorter and lighter according to data found in the web.The bm59 looks just like the m14. Perhaps it inspired it?
Correct. The m14 was a garand clone, though idk why it was serviced since the M16 was adopted a couple years afterAs far as I know, they are both a design coming from the old Garand M1 making it automatic instead of semi-auto with a removable 20 round magazine. and are very similar even if the Beretta BM 59 was a bit shorter and lighter according to data found in the web.
When I went Army basic training in December '67 we were trained on, and had to qualify with the M14. Weeks later during advanced training I had to train and qualify with the M16. In South Vietnam in mid '68 the M16 was the main weapon issued. There may have been some left over M14's in the country, but I never saw any,Correct. The m14 was a garand clone, though idk why it was serviced since the M16 was adopted a couple years after
Wasn’t there a problem with the 16? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they jammed easily.When I went Army basic training in December '67 we were trained on, and had to qualify with the M14. Weeks later during advanced training I had to train and qualify with the M16. In South Vietnam in mid '68 the M16 was the main weapon issued. There may have been some left over M14's in the country, but I never saw any,
Tree maintenance...Wasn’t there a problem with the 16? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they jammed easily.
They didn't issue Riesling rations so they tended not to workWasn’t there a problem with the 16? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they jammed easily.
Roger! Wilco! Wheels up! Mayday! Or whatever it is I’m supposed to say to control tower. This is Barb, ready for takeoff. Everyone take cover!
Pilot moore where is your pilot outfit?!? Flying naked is not politeRoger! Wilco! Wheels up! Mayday! Or whatever it is I’m supposed to say to control tower. This is Barb, ready for takeoff. Everyone take cover!
Roger! Wilco! Wheels up! Mayday! Or whatever it is I’m supposed to say to control tower. This is Barb, ready for takeoff. Everyone take cover!
But it avoids overloading the chopper...Pilot moore where is your pilot outfit?!? Flying naked is not polite
Fishnets off, and ready to go?Roger! Wilco! Wheels up! Mayday! Or whatever it is I’m supposed to say to control tower. This is Barb, ready for takeoff. Everyone take cover!
it helps get the chopper up!But it avoids overloading the chopper...
I was not in the infantry and cannot comment on its reliabilty from personal experience (I was issued one but didn't carry it on the aircraft during missions). But there was a common belief that the early M16's were prone to jamming and weren't well suited to the conditions they were subjected to. They had to be kept clean at a minimum, including the ammo and magazines.Wasn’t there a problem with the 16? I seem to remember reading somewhere that they jammed easily.
Mayday would be Moore appropriate... especially for folks on the ground.Roger! Wilco! Wheels up! Mayday! Or whatever it is I’m supposed to say to control tower. This is Barb, ready for takeoff. Everyone take cover!