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The Slaves of Atticus Lucius Tiburcus

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malins said:
I really like this, the matter of fact way Aulus deals with the situation, always aware of the fragility of his own position while making the best of it given the situation.

He'll give small mercies where he feels them to be affordable...

soo we don't have the stereotypical raving sadist crux-thug.

Though it's clear also he'll also very much enjoy some special fruits of his labor ... and since the only way for him to get his hands on someone like Diana is by way of her being sentenced to the cross, and him carrying that out, ...that is his favorite imagination ... a bittersweet dream now coming true.

As a slave both the idea of freedom as well as the vision of his own doom on a cross are ever-present at the back of his mind, circling, and feeding each other... if it wasn't for this and that and another thing he might take Diana's notion of escape seriously but what he makes is a rational judgement weighing the outcomes. He doesn't laugh in her face though! All in all a well described character.

As for Diana we may find out more about her but so far she seems to realize that after making the best of her life as a slave for a few years now she must make the best of her end, and there's no point in making a scene...


I like that one too, a lot of the ones leading up to the crux work pretty well!

For a depiction of the crux itself you'll need to have the hands and feet in precise places and poses and if you're working with a global prompt only that's very tricky (I've played around a bit with a local setup). A few come out reasonably well as they match common modeling or dance poses but those wild, squirming scenes are hard to get, unless you dig into 'controlnet', inpainting etc. as @fallenmystic mentioned
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I was a bit dismissive of @fallenmystic's comments earlier, partly because I regard him as something of an AI genius who has total control and understanding of all this stuff, which I absolutely don't, and partly because I hope I'm on a journey towards the use of the technology. Apologies, Fallenmystic!

I probably shouldn't be using resources like deep-ai because it doesn't give much consistency between images, and we already see variations in the appearance of Aulus and Diana, so I would love a clearly recognisable AI character who I can pose in various clothing and situations. It may be possible, I'm not there yet.

But coming up are some slightly unusual crux situations and points of view which I could never, ever have managed with manipulation alone which AI has helped me to achieve.

These first ones are mostly following the Diana story from 'When to Strip' but then, as you see, there are three slaves of dear old Atta boy.

(I would definitely have been crucified if I had called him that to his face!)
 
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Wragg said:
I was a bit dismissive of @fallenmystic's comments earlier, partly because I regard him as something of an AI genius who has total control and understanding of all this stuff, which I absolutely don't, and partly because I hope I'm on a journey towards the use of the technology. Apologies, Fallenmystic!
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I wish I were the kind of person you think I am. :D And there's absolutely no need for an apology! It's just that I can't resist nudging those who just got started with AI to try the right tools, only because I want them to be able to express what they fancy as freely as I can with them. It'd be nice if more people on CF could easily share what they imagine using AI.

And I'm glad you're enjoying the journey. Can't wait to see what you'll come up with next. :thumbsup:
 
So I did what I had to do. I unfastened her robe, and pulled it off her arms.

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Underneath she was bare breasted, but she wore a loincloth.

I pulled it away, and admired her for a few moments before peering at her loincloth gingerly, but it must have been clean on this morning, because it was still clean, despite what she’d been through.

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I waved it at Gunter, and he approached. He looked at Diana, and spoke to Diana in his own language. But whatever he said, it meant nothing to Diana, who looked at me. “What did he say?”

I shrugged, but made a gesture to Gunter to indicate that I didn’t want her standing chatting to us, but laying down, and together we lifted off her feet and placed her, carefully enough, onto her cross.

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Lukas was fetching some nails, so I began to draw out her left arm, but I looked up and saw a familiar figure approaching. “Hold on Lukas,” I said, “Zelda is here.”

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He stopped. He knew Zelda. We all wanted Zelda to be there for us if we were crucified, so we allowed her to bring a cup of her mildly drugged wine to those we were about to nail to unforgiving wood. More importantly we knew that Gnaeus tolerated her, so we could too. Nobody knew how old Zelda was, nor how she always knew when we were about our business, She just seemed to materialise at the vital moment.

Diana, of course, knew nothing about Zelda. I pushed her up into a sitting position. “Drink that,” I said, “It’ll ease the pain.”

She took the pewter cup. “Thank you.” She took a sip. “Yuk. It’s bitter.”

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“Drink it or tip it onto the ground,” I said. “Your choice.”

She gulped it down and handed the cup back. I nodded to Zelda and then pulled Diana back down.

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She looked up into my eyes. “You know I have never hurt anyone?”

I looked down and saw sheer terror in her eyes, as she felt the tip of the nail on her wrist. Now did not seem to be the time for detective work.

“Yes,” I said. “I know.”
 
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“YAAAAARGH!!!” She screamed into my face as Lukas hit the nail. He swung the hammer high but always brought it down with unerring accuracy onto the nail.

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My head was in front of her face, so I got the full ‘benefit’ of the torrent of sound and spittle.

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But after he’d hit it a couple of times I was able to move out of the way and pull out her right arm ready for Lukas. Diana kicked and writhed and screamed, but Lukas pounded on the nail with relentless efficiency until it was home.

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Lukas stood up, stretched, and then stepped over her. Diana had been yelling, “Get it out! Get it out!” but she realised that nobody had the slightest intention of doing any such thing. She lay there panting in horror watching Lukas as he prepared a repeat performance on her right wrist.

“Oh no, oh please, no. No more!” I could feel her trying to pull her arm away but I’d held down men the size of Gunter for this procedure. Her panic rose at her total inability to prevent what she knew was coming. “Please! Aulus! You don’t understand how much it hurts! I can’t take any more! PLEASE!”

“I’m sorry, Diana.” Maybe I was, a bit, but I had a job to do.

“Don’t say ‘sorry’, Aulus, Just stop! AuLUUUUUUUUUS!!!!! AAAAARGH!!!!!!”

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Should I have felt more sorry for her than for any other slave or criminal? I’d crucified young women whose only crime was to have dropped a beaker of wine. Come to think of it I’d done that for Tiburcus before. And he’d stood and watched us. If he’d thought that there was any imbalance in the scales of justice between a little drop of spilled wine and an awful lot of spilled blood he’d shown no signs of it; he’d just sent another one to her cross a few months later.

Lukas made sure that the foot of the cross was held firm by the rock that would guide it into its socket, and we’d set stones up to hold the head of the stipes in place, too. Gnaeus found it easier to do it that way rather than when the crosses were upright – it was a long way down to solid rock so we’d had to install stone shafts for our crosses surrounded with hardcore, these held the crosses steady enough but hitting them with a mallet when they were upright threatened to topple cross and crucified alike.

I tried to capture one or other of her flailing feet. Diana was quite determined that I should not, and when I caught it she tried her best to pull it away.

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I forced her leg into position with her heel pressed against the side of the cross while she tried to kick me away with her other foot. She landed a few blows, too.
 
I could complain about some things in one of the pics, but it's not worth complaining about if you see this good picture story as a whole.
 
Wragg said:
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Lukas stood up, stretched, and then stepped over her. Diana had been yelling, “Get it out! Get it out!” but she realised that nobody had the slightest intention of doing any such thing. She lay there panting in horror watching Lukas as he prepared a repeat performance on her right wrist.
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Occasionally we have seen supine nailing scenes depicted in 3D and manips, but this sequence presents the anguish and muscular tension of the service user in a particularly dramatic way. The executioners are focused on their task, providing convincing character interaction. The background ie evocative of a suitably lifeless execution ground, and we are seeing consistent colour balance and lighting. Nice work, Wragg! :)
 
I'm not sure how I missed this on Tuesday - must have been preoccupied and, of course, the alert system only works to alert me about things that are not that interesting. This seems a very worthwhile employment of an AI engine to bring pencil sketches to life like this. The nailing scene is quite convincing. As Bob says, the scene is well balanced and the figures are convincingly part of it. Blood is apparently still a bit tricky. ;)

Really nice work and a compelling narrative to go with it. You clearly understand how much I enjoy a tragic heroine going to an unjust punishment. :D
 
Thanks everyone, yes, I could complain about some of the images, getting a picture looking along an arm towards a woman, or looking up from below is a big problem for AI and I must have binned a dozen attempts. :doh:

I wondered about not including them but you know what they say, don't try don't get.
 
Wragg said:
Thanks everyone, yes, I could complain about some of the images, getting a picture looking along an arm towards a woman, or looking up from below is a big problem for AI and I must have binned a dozen attempts. :doh:

I wondered about not including them but you know what they say, don't try don't get.
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The story and illustrations are all good. Who says CFers deserve perfection?

By the way, this picture of Diana captures the innocent woman's trauma fantastically...
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Dis she really earn this?!?!?!
 
thehangingtree said:
The story and illustrations are all good. Who says CFers deserve perfection?

By the way, this picture of Diana captures the innocent woman's trauma fantastically...
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It’s not only her facial expression, and the arch of her body. For me, and @mp5stab would probably agree, it’s her hair! It’s disarray, and especially the way it lies on the ground alongside her head.
 
Lukas, bless him, had a nail through her heel and into the timber in double quick time, and I was free to grab the other leg and hold it still to prevent further injury to either me or Lukas.

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It took him longer to drive the nail fully home, mind you. It’s always more difficult to drive a nail in horizontally than vertically, even with the cross held by the stone blocks that we’d mounted into the ground.

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I looked at the howling Diana, arched in agony, and then up at Gunter, standing there watching all this with a bulge in his loincloth. Not that I didn’t have a bulge in mine, too.

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“Thanks for your help, mate!” I yelled over Diana’s protests.

He shrugged. I gave up. I’d tried to crucify someone once with just him to help me, Lukas must have been incapacitated or something, I’d managed it, but only just, and it had all taken ten times longer than usual. He was completely inept. Lukas and I were good, we worked as a team, each knowing what to do and when. But with Gunter, I’d spent more time waving my arms about than anything else. Bloody Teutons.
Diana had no more free limbs for use in defence as we came to that last heel. And there came a point in most crucifixions when the victim realises that any extra movement hurts, and the screams subside into whimpers. Of course Diana bellowed when that final nail transfixed her one remaining limb into position, but mostly she just lay there, panting.

“Okay, Gunter, make yourself useful!” I ordered, reinforcing my request with the arm movements by which we usually communicated. He went around to the head end of the cross.

Diana realised what was happening and formed some coherent words again. “No! Please! Let…. me lie still, just for a…. minute!”

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None of which meant anything to Gunter, who lifted the top of the cross and began to walk forwards, raising Diana higher and higher. Lukas and I stood each side to steady it, and then, as it came vertical, Gunter just let it drop the eighteen inches or so into the bottom of its socket. Lukas knocked in some wedges to hold it firm and that was it. Job done.

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The effect of all this on the crucified Diana was immense. She had been howling in protest all the way up, but that drop into the socket must have been terrifying as well as astoundingly agonising.
 
thehangingtree said:
The story and illustrations are all good. Who says CFers deserve perfection?

By the way, this picture of Diana captures the innocent woman's trauma fantastically...
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Dis she really earn this?!?!?!
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Barbaria1 said:
It’s not only her facial expression, and the arch of her body. For me, and @mp5stab would probably agree, it’s her hair! It’s disarray, and especially the way it lies on the ground alongside her head.
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Wragg said:
Lukas, bless him, had a nail through her heel and into the timber in double quick time, and I was free to grab the other leg and hold it still to prevent further injury to either me or Lukas.

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It took him longer to drive the nail fully home, mind you. It’s always more difficult to drive a nail in horizontally than vertically, even with the cross held by the stone blocks that we’d mounted into the ground.

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I looked at the howling Diana, arched in agony, and then up at Gunter, standing there watching all this with a bulge in his loincloth. Not that I didn’t have a bulge in mine, too.

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“Thanks for your help, mate!” I yelled over Diana’s protests.

He shrugged. I gave up. I’d tried to crucify someone once with just him to help me, Lukas must have been incapacitated or something, I’d managed it, but only just, and it had all taken ten times longer than usual. He was completely inept. Lukas and I were good, we worked as a team, each knowing what to do and when. But with Gunter, I’d spent more time waving my arms about than anything else. Bloody Teutons.
Diana had no more free limbs for use in defence as we came to that last heel. And there came a point in most crucifixions when the victim realises that any extra movement hurts, and the screams subside into whimpers. Of course Diana bellowed when that final nail transfixed her one remaining limb into position, but mostly she just lay there, panting.

“Okay, Gunter, make yourself useful!” I ordered, reinforcing my request with the arm movements by which we usually communicated. He went around to the head end of the cross.

Diana realised what was happening and formed some coherent words again. “No! Please! Let…. me lie still, just for a…. minute!”

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None of which meant anything to Gunter, who lifted the top of the cross and began to walk forwards, raising Diana higher and higher. Lukas and I stood each side to steady it, and then, as it came vertical, Gunter just let it drop the eighteen inches or so into the bottom of its socket. Lukas knocked in some wedges to hold it firm and that was it. Job done.

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The effect of all this on the crucified Diana was immense. She had been howling in protest all the way up, but that drop into the socket must have been terrifying as well as astoundingly agonising.
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Thanks! Some back-arching here, too, original courtesy of our much-missed @Repertor.

thehangingtree said:
It is soooo difficult to get a hair stylist to come to a crucifixion!!!!
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You need deep-image.ai. I mess up their hair, upload it, and back it comes beautifully styled :doh:
 
You say : " Only ropes, never nails ! " and you are showing us (cruxgirls) the best fantasy that we could have ........
I dont understand !!! ...
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Wragg said:
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The effect of all this on the crucified Diana was immense. She had been howling in protest all the way up, but that drop into the socket must have been terrifying as well as astoundingly agonising.
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Now, that is a very nice effect, showing the moment of impact. I think you're doing really well with the AI thing. I might have to take a look at it.

I can't help think that you don't seem to get discouraged by the idea of yet another illustrated epic. ;) :D
 
Barbaria1 said:
It’s not only her facial expression, and the arch of her body. For me, and @mp5stab would probably agree, it’s her hair! It’s disarray, and especially the way it lies on the ground alongside her head.
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I’ve been summoned? Ooh a blonde. Great taste. And what a thread… time to start from the beginning!
 
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