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And it is only now, after 3 long months, that she is informed that her incomplete sentence must continue

“Yes, slave, you still owe another 37 lashes, a slave’s blood debt must always be repaid, I don’t care if it takes another 2 sets, you must suffer and bleed like the whip slave you have become!”

She whimpers… “oh please, Master, haven’t I been a good slave since? Please I beg you for mercy? Please don’t whip me again? I beg mercy?”

Tears streaming down her face as she is shackled and dragged back to the flogging cell, between her sobs , Kristen can hear the cackling laughter of her Master

Nope, only if she misbehaves again, and i don't think Kristen would do that again given how brutally she was whipped.

The scars on her back are terrifying.In the quarry where she is forced to work, both from the heat and the strain, the slaves are forced to go shirtless to get some relief.
A slave boy who was also recently put to work in the quarry said to her "My gosh Kristen!.... Your back!... So cruel..." and he had touched with his fingers slightly feeling her bad crisscrossed scars.. "Your skin is so thickened where you have the scars... fuck! This so terrible! I can't believe the pain.."
Kristen: "A lot Pete... really a lot..."
Kristen responded to him by continuing to work without caring that he touched her back.
She understood perfectly that he was impressed and Kristen maintained a detached, cold and very serious attitude.
Pete: "How long did they whip you?"
Kristen: "Pete... seriously?... What do you want me to say?... Just think about working and forget about it"
Pete: "Ok, I'm sorry... You're right".
Kristen feeling a little guilty for having answered him like that and knowing that he was a good guy and in the same situation as her says: "28... 28 lashes they gave me... I was sentenced to 65 lashes but when the 28th whiplash hit me i completely fainted... I tried to resist with all my strength... then i couldn't take it anymore... too much pain to bear and i lost blood too so i passed out... do your job Pete and don't do like me, don't make the same mistake as me... don't get involved in inconvenient situations ok? Try... just try to stay out of trouble"
 
KRISTEN AND PETE HAVE AN INTIMATE INTERCOURSE (PART1).

Pete after Kristen revealed to him with complete honesty the truth and what happened when Kristen was whipped, he felt that he had earned her trust and that Kristen also clearly trusted him.
Pete is a very young boy, much younger than Kristen, although he looks older, and very strong. With well developed biceps and deltoids and strong abs like Kristen's.
He is about 1.8m tall and has dark brown hair, brown eyes and a light beard, slightly hinted at, typical of a boy who is just over a teenager. He is not very handsome in the face, a boy like any other, what made him fascinating were his lips and the intensity of his gaze. But the thing that made him most attractive was his harmonious body... and strangely after this conversation they both had, Kristen felt particularly attracted to him.

The work of this other very hard and painful day of forced labor in the mines/quarry is over. Men and women meeting in secret is forbidden, but Kristen managed to find a solution, an isolated place that only she had managed to find some time before, in a forest an old abandoned cabin where there is no armed surveillance of the guards. Kristen also created a gap in the fence that could be completely closed so as not to arouse suspicion.

This is what Pete and Kristen said to each other just before finishing work in the quarry:
Pete: "You don't know how sorry i am for what happened to you... I would have fainted too with such pain... I would have wanted to help you and done anything to not have you go through such torture.."
Kristen: "And for what Pete... to have you whipped too?... to have your back stripped of flesh and your body ruined forever by horrible scars?"
Pete: "I... it's not true that your body is ruined"
Kristen: "Bull shit!... you're just a kid who talks nonsense"
Pete: "I just want to tell you that i'm sorry... and what i said before... I would have done it... I would have done it for real".
Kristen gets lost in Pete's gaze, he doesn't look down and looks at her intensely in her green eyes. She begins to blush slightly and sketch a very slight smile. Kristen is small in stature and very thin, but she has really strong muscles and her arms and legs are adorned with large tendons and nerves, not to mention her abs of steel. Also, Kristen looks much younger than her age, even though she is already 34 and not a kid anymore. Pete is incredibly attracted to Kristen and so is she, even if neither of them shows it openly and he always asks her politely: "How old are you?"
Kristen: "34... and... you?"
Pete: "20... 34? Really? I would have given you my age or a little more... you are amazing"
Kristen: "Yeah.. yes i want to say... thank you. You are not joking either... for being 20 years old"
Kristen now gives a very quick look at Pete's muscles, then looks him intensely again eye to eye one more time before lowering her gaze. Kristen is really beautiful, her body shiny with sweat like Pete's, is small and muscular, her breasts are small and firm with muscles, they have turgid nipples.
Kristen: "Tonight i'll take you to a place that only i know, come with me. We'll be away from prying eyes, no one will bother us..."
Pete: "Kristen is forbidden... we can't..."
Kristen: "Trust me... you have to trust me... like i'm doing it with you... tonight... be ready"
The strong desire to be possessed by Pete now bursts into Kristen's mind, as is Pete full of excitement despite his determination to be correct and very polite towards Kristen so as not to disrespect her. So much so that the first step, the first initiative, was taken by Kristen herself, because Pete would never have done it.
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applied to me, it's supossed to be an execution or at least a real punishment, so i've always imagined more or less like this:

1. no fixed number of strokes, i'd be sentenced to be "scourged to death" or "whipped until passing out, plus 20" (to be sure), or "to the judge/king/executioner pleasure" or at the very least "til the blood stream from her body" as i've read in old texts out there, "plus 20 (or more)", (to be sure again), naked from head to toes in public of course

2. i've long had this fantasy of being scourged upside down, hanging from a gallow by an ankle (or with a meat hook through the foot), with hands tied to the back of my neck

if not, a pillory would be great too, not sure about whipping posts cuz i've always felt that you are kinda less exposed and can cover partially with them instead of getting the whipping at the executioner's will?

about the whip, the scourge complete with the lead things of course, or if not, at least a whip like used in the scene of Patsey's whipping in "12 years a slave", don't know its name in English (but i've loved that scene since i first watched it!!!)

3. no regulation, it would defeat the purpose of an execution or a real punishment

4. LOL i don't imagine myself doing the whipping much, further i'm petite (well more like pudgy ))): ) and not very strong, so it'd be a bit ridiculous i guess, but i could sure incite others to go hard on some other bitch like me and tell them where it hurts more!

5. as you can see, fainting in my fantasy is a feature not a bug LOL

i guess that if i'm supposed to get some more, i'd be revived and have it

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but IRL i of course wouldn't have any voice or choice on anything of it!!! LOL
 
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applied to me, it's supossed to be an execution or at least a real punishment, so i've always imagined more or less like this:

1. no fixed number of strokes, i'd be sentenced to be "scourged to death" or "whipped until passing out, plus 20" (to be sure), or "to the judge/king/executioner pleasure" or at the very least "til the blood stream from her body" as i've read in old texts out there, "plus 20 (or more)", (to be sure again), naked from head to toes in public of course

2. i've long had this fantasy of being scourged upside down, hanging from a gallow by an ankle (or with a meat hook through the foot), with hands tied to the back of my neck

if not, a pillory would be great too, not sure about whipping posts cuz i've always felt that you are kinda less exposed and can cover partially with them instead of getting the whipping at the executioner's will?

about the whip, the scourge complete with the lead things of course, or if not, at least a whip like used in the scene of Patsey's whipping in "12 years a slave", don't know its name in English (but i've loved that scene since i first watched it!!!)

3. no regulation, it would defeat the purpose of an execution or a real punishment

4. LOL i don't imagine myself doing the whipping much, further i'm petite (well more like pudgy ))): ) and not very strong, so it'd be a bit ridiculous i guess, but i could sure incite others to go hard on some other bitch like me and tell them where it hurts more!

5. as you can see, fainting in my fantasy is a feature not a bug LOL

i guess that if i'm supposed to get some more, i'd be revived and have it

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but IRL i of course wouldn't have any voice or choice on anything of it!!! LOL
Let your flogging dreams come true. It'll be unforgetable show for everyone who'll have a chance see it or deliver you pain.
 
KRISTEN AND PETE HAVE AN INTIMATE INTERCOURSE, PART2. (really explicit content).

The evening arrives. It was not easy to elude the surveillance, but both of them managed it anyway. Both driven by an uncontrollable desire to join their bodies. Pete however does not seem to be so convinced, partly because of fear and partly because of other thoughts of his... there is something that disturbs him, that afflicts him inside.
The evening is very slightly chilly. Kristen has a torn rag shirt that reaches above her navel and is barefoot, while Pete has rag and leather shoes, preferring to remain bare chested.
They do not have much time, but just the right amount of time necessary to fully consume their sexual intercourse.
They reach the old shack in the woods that Kristen found some time ago.
As soon as they enter, Kristen barricades the front door as best she can. There is a strong smell of old wood and damp.
Kristen grabs an old blanket and places it on a large table so they can be more comfortable instead of having sex on the filthy floor.
Kristen: "We don't have much time, more or less an hour and half... but the time needed to feel good." She says to Pete whispering in his ear, starting to touch his big pectorals and moving her hands down to his naked abs crossed by a very light but thick black hair that goes down in the center like a dark line from under his chest, crosses his abs and reaches his navel to his pubis, the typical adolescent hair still. Pete feels Kristen's hot breath and has an incredible erection accompanied by a jolt of extreme pleasure when Kristen grabs him hard through his pants. Kristen inadvertently already lets out a loud moan looking with her beautiful green eyes full of desire into Pete's eyes, intensely.
Pete is very excited, but there is something wrong... he seems awkward, he doesn't know what to do.
Pete: "Kristen wait...ah..hhhh" feeling Kristen's firm hand on his turgid member.
Kristen: "What's wrong?... Is something wrong?..."
Pete doesn't answer, but he seems disconsolate despite his strong desire.
Pete: "I... well... I have to tell you something first... it's important... oh damn! I don't know how to tell you this... it's also embarrassing at the same time"
Kristen: "Pete... what's wrong?!.. Tell me what's wrong with you.. did I hurt you?"
Pete: "No... absolutely not.. you have nothing to do with it"
Kristen: "Do you already have someone else?... Do you have a girlfriend?... Pete.. whatever the problem is.. please tell me, I promise not to judge you. Trust me! You can rest easy". He tells her while gently caressing her abs.
Pete: "I'm a virgin Kristen.. I've never been with any woman or girl before"
Kristen: "What the hell are you talking about!.. A guy like you? Who's never been with anyone?" She says to him, but always very calmly and without ever disrespecting him.
Pete: "That's how it is though. It's the truth... I feel like an idiot, I'm ashamed even to have told you that!.. You're laughing look!"
Kristen has a slight smile, of surprise, yes. But strangely in her gaze there is also admiration and appreciation.
Kristen: "Pete I'm not judging you, and I'm not laughing... on the contrary instead"
Pete: "What?.. Let's hear it" he says with his brow furrowed in surprise and also a little indignant.
Kristen: "I appreciate it instead... believe it or not it's the truth. I really appreciate what you told me. It's true yes, I'm surprised... I'm only surprised that an attractive guy like you has never done it before. This is a compliment, not a joke. I appreciate that you told me the truth, that you were honest with me about something that is only yours... so intimate. No one would ever say that, everyone would hide it. Boys and more generally all men have a big ego when it comes to their intimacy... especially boys so young like you... only admiration and respect for you Pete..." Now Kristen throws a smiling grimace and a look at Pete of pure eroticism. Kristen puts her hand back on Pete's penis which becomes even harder than before due to excitement.. "Don't worry, little boy... ahhh.. leave it to me.. I'll take look of you.. if it's your first time with a woman... ahhh.. for me it's the first time I've taken the virginity of a big boy like you... so we're even"
Pete is panting loudly because Kristen's hand is now going up and down on his member slowing down and accelerating in intensity. She makes Pete sit on the table and she continues to masturbate him gently.
Kristen: "Relax and let yourself go..." she now takes off her torn shirt and bends down on her knees starting to massage his testicles with the other hand and now Kristen brings her mouth closer to his penis starting to give delicate kisses on the glans, Pete is agitated and shakes moaning and tilting his head continuously for the extreme pleasure that Kristen is giving him.
Kristen "Don't stop looking at me..." Pete's glans is very dark due to the very strong blood flow, but also because it is the high level of testosterone in circulation.
Kristen without stopping looking into Pete's eyes, now gives him a blowjob, moving up and down always firmly with her right hand while with the left she massages his balls. Kristen's hand is very strong but small, covering only almost half of Pete's penis which is very large. Kristen sucks hard while simultaneously moving her hand giving waves of extreme pleasure to Pete's brain. "Ahhhhhhhhh.... Ohhhhh Yeahhh"
" Yes....mmmmhhhh... feel the pleasure boy!"
Pete completely at ease now... he lets himself go completely. His brain completely flooded with endorphins released by the strong testosterone in circulation he grabs Kristen by the nape of the neck with both hands accompanying her up and down at the same rhythm of the blowjob that Kristen is giving him.
Now Kristen tells Pete to lie down completely on the table, dropping the rags that cover her private parts, placing herself on top of him. The penis is already lubricated by Kristen's saliva and once she has been penetrated she begins to move rhythmically giving Pete strong thrusts with her pelvis. Pete lets out loud screams of extreme pleasure feeling his penis that more or less reaches Kristen's navel up to her cervix. For a long half hour Kristen rides Pete in this way already reaching her first orgasm, while he is still far away. She puts his hands on her hips, and Pete begins to hold her firmly by the pelvis while she proceeds to give Pete other rhythmic thrusts. Kristen is tired, her sculpted abs are red and dripping with sweat from the effort. Now it is her who lies down on the table, accompanying him to penetrate her again. She grabs him with her strong legs crossing them and grabs Pete's buttocks giving gentle pushes to encourage him and accompany him in the penetrations. Now in the missionary position Kristen and Pete are face to face, eye to eye, hot breath with hot breath, they moan, scream, grind their teeth, dripping with sweat they give each other long and passionate kisses, here she comes a second time making a hickey on Pete's bicep and curling her long toes hard.
Pete out of breath from the effort is a river in flood, he detaches himself from Kristen, overwhelmed by a vortex of passion and an overdose of endorphins in circulation, he pulls her down putting Kristen back on her feet but positioning her doggystyle.
In this way he sees her back tormented by the scars where there is very thick skin and hardened by the scar tissue where before there were the deep scabs of the cuts from Kristen's whippings.
Pete with his member full of her juices, penetrates her again, this time using much more force and giving her countless well-placed thrusts. Completely exhausted he continued like this for quite some time giving Kristen her third come.
Pete's sperm is hardened and thickened considerably due to the very long time of abstinence from his sexual sphere. Without taking into account obviously a very large quantity due to his young age and his robust body constitution, and without any doubt of making Kristen pregnant.
Pete finally, after a bit of frustration, feels the tremendous thrusts of his sperm that conveys into the spermatic viaducts, even giving him slight pangs of pain. A loud scream of pleasure, this time more intense makes Kristen understand that he has now almost reached the climax.
Kristen also flooded with extreme pleasure, and while he continues to push inside her, Kristen says to him: "hey, hey, slow down big boy.. calm down... shhhh... shhhh... come here... take it easy..." Pete slightly frustrated, pulls away from Kristen and his orgasm is also slowly moving away.
Pete: "Why... are you okay?" All shaking with excitement, exhausted and panting with his breath in his throat.. Kristen with a smile and caressing his face: "Come here sit down.. you can't cum inside me.. if I get pregnant they'll take him away from me... and then... you're still too young to be a father...and they would whip us till the death..." now running a finger over Pete's lips.
He understanding perfectly, he lets to take in her mouth. And after several minutes of oral stimulation Kristen releases the orgasm to Pete feeling the thick ropes of his sperm full of lumps and hardened fibers. The smell and taste are very strong and it tastes of stagnation, which almost makes Kristen gag after swallowing the first two ropes, letting the last six emissions slide down her hand, because she couldn't take it anymore.
Given the endless abstinence, as well as his young age, just a little more than adolescence, the blood has released all the testosterone inside, making his sperm even yellowish.
Pete's screams while he was in the midst of orgasm were inhuman with pleasure.
Pete: "Oh my gosh.... ohhh yeah.... ohh yeah" said still after some minutes later the climax.
Kristen: " Oh my!...Wow...that was so intense!...Let's go! We must be leave here now before they find us... But now before, we need a little cleaning?!"
Pete: "It was so disgusting my taste?...i'm sorry Kris"
And she said with a smile and sweet kindness : "Ehi... it's normal... sorry, apologizes... for what? Don't worry kid it's normal because you're very young"
Now they must return back faster...
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- If you were part of the jury of the ancient Roman aristocracy or a hypothetical court martial, how much lash would you sentence the prisoner to be flogged?

- Choose the type of whipping post(whether as shown in the image or something else...) and how the corporal punishment should be performed with which type of whip.

- Set a regulation (example: if during the flogging someone must be present to check the state of health of the condemned etc...)

- How would you react if you were the one holding the whip, and therefore whipping the prisoner?

- Regarding fainting, if the prisoner passes out while you are keep to lash her wounded back, what would you do? Or what if she is still conscious, but she is completely exhausted and she can barely speak asking you that she literally can't take the pain anymore and is begging you to stop? You go on to flogg her until she completely faints or you stop?
1. If we're in ancient Rome then it would be brutal. I would have no mercy. 200 lashes feels right.

2. I want to see her back and breasts, so it would be frame similar in shape to football (or rugby) goal posts, she would be chained into a standing star position. The whip used would be appropriate to her body, ranging from cat o' nine, cane, bull whip etc

3. I would use this to torment her further. A whipping marshall would check her and recommend stopping, I would overturn this decision and increase the number of lashes.

4. It would be a dream come true. My heart would be pounding, my genitals throbbing, I would thank her for her suffering.

5. Absolutely keep going, I decide when she's had enough pain!
 
WHAT DO YOU THINK LICTOR EXECUTIONERS, FOR THE ROMAN JUSTICE, SHE HAS BEEN UNDER FLOGGING FOR A WHILE AND SHE HAS RECEIVED MORE OF THIRTY LASHES, HER BACK HAS SEVERAL CUTS AND HER SKIN HAS TORN, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO KEEP FLOG HER TILL SHE LOSE CONSCIOUSNESS OR IT'S ENOUGH AND THEN UNTIE HER?
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No mercy for her. She hasn't had even nearly enough lashes. Another 30 across her back, I want to see the flesh torn until I see raw muscle.....
 
No mercy for her. She hasn't had even nearly enough lashes. Another 30 across her back, I want to see the flesh torn until I see raw muscle.....
"Of course Tribune Annatar. It will be done! Precisely, sir, i stopped the girl's flogging just to consult with you, whether it is appropriate to continue or not. She let out very loud screams of pain. Her back is already quite injured and she is quite exhausted, but she seems to be holding up well. She is very young sir, she is 23 years old and has a very strong physique. To cause her more pain and to break her definitively, from this moment on, her flogging must be performed by two men, so that the whip strokes are given in alternate way and that they devastate her back. The two Lictors must be positioned respectively, one on her right side and the other on her left side so that the cuts and wounds caused by the whips are well distributed on her back. To cause her unspeakable and hallucinating pain, it will be truly cruel but at the same time necessary to hit her already open wounds many times, damaging her muscle and nervous tissue and blood vessels. It is very likely that she will faint unconscious from the unbearable pain. So it's decided then sir!"

"Let an additional lictor be added to whip her! The Tribune has decided that she should be given 30 more lashes! Position yourself one to her left and one to her right so that the lashes are given to her back even more well distribuited. Even if she doesn't manage to get to the actual number 30 it doesn't matter, as it has been decided by the Tribune that the prisoner should be whipped until she completely loses consciousness. Once she has fainted then you can stop and then the whipping will be over. And every now and then hit her several times in the wounds that have already opened so as to increase her pain and accelerate her loss of consciousness. I know it's cruel! But this is how it was decided to punish the insubordination of this slave! Lictors! Proceed to flog her again. You can begin!"
 
WHAT DO YOU THINK LICTOR EXECUTIONERS, FOR THE ROMAN JUSTICE, SHE HAS BEEN UNDER FLOGGING FOR A WHILE AND SHE HAS RECEIVED MORE OF THIRTY LASHES, HER BACK HAS SEVERAL CUTS AND HER SKIN HAS TORN, IT WOULD BE NECESSARY TO KEEP FLOG HER TILL SHE LOSE CONSCIOUSNESS OR IT'S ENOUGH AND THEN UNTIE HER?
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The whip has not been laid around her breasts yet. She has many more lashes to take until she passes out
 
My answers to the questions posed:

1. The duration of the punishment should always be "at the torturer's discretion." After all, for some people, 12 strokes of the cane is practically unbearable, while for others it is just a gentle warmup.

2. For position, I generally prefer a free-standing bondage. Wrists in a spreader bar, hoisted over head, or wrists attached to a chain, lifted high over head (if the girl is petite enough, lifted right off the ground). For whips, I prefer a cane, a sjambok, or a single-tail/message whip or something of that ilk. I've used a spanking bench, a St. Andrews cross, and even just tied to the bed, but they are somewhat limiting.

3. Regulation?!? We don't need no stinkin' regulation. ;-) But the idea of it being carried out before an audience is something I'd require. And having a nurse/EMT/doctor on hand to revive the victim if need be would be good.

4. I always am the one holding the whip, if I have anything to say about it. Sadist, remember? ;-)

5. Should the victim pass out, it would depend. I probably would not consider the sentence fully executed, and would revive them. After the second or third time, I might decide to call it complete. It would depend on my mood, and how much suffering they had already undergone.

But that's just me. Feel free to disagree!
 
@Annatar Lord of Gifts

"Tribune Annatar, sir. The girl has fainted completely, she has lost consciousness. She has not managed to get to another 30 lashes, i counted 17. The two lictors have alternated the lashes regularly sir, they have given her very strong whip blows. By now her back is raw from cuts and wounds, in some places you can see the bloody flesh, the last three lashes were given to her when she was already unconscious, i told the two lictors to stop. She needs immediate care sir, the wounds are very bad, they must be cleaned and disinfected and then bandaged, otherwise she would risk septicaemia and could die, and in any case we cannot continue the flogging because otherwise we risk killing her anyway.

Here she is. This is her condition. She has been unconscious for a quarter of an hour now. Should i have her untied then?"
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@Annatar Lord of Gifts

"Tribune Annatar, sir. The girl has fainted completely, she has lost consciousness. She has not managed to get to another 30 lashes, i counted 17. The two lictors have alternated the lashes regularly sir, they have given her very strong whip blows. By now her back is raw from cuts and wounds, in some places you can see the bloody flesh, the last three lashes were given to her when she was already unconscious, i told the two lictors to stop. She needs immediate care sir, the wounds are very bad, they must be cleaned and disinfected and then bandaged, otherwise she would risk septicaemia and could die, and in any case we cannot continue the flogging because otherwise we risk killing her anyway.

Here she is. This is her condition. She has been unconscious for a quarter of an hour now. Should i have her untied then?"
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Thank you.....

Good work. Yes, let's get her healed up. Any more infractions and she'll get those remaining 13 lashes and more....
 
Thank you.....

Good work. Yes, let's get her healed up. Any more infractions and she'll get those remaining 13 lashes and more....
"Very good sir. Lictors! You can untie her now.
Take her away to the other slave and getting treated her injuries because not become infected and stopping the blood loss. Now!

Yes sir, now she must be taken time for recover. There will be more of two weeks before really big scabs of blood formed in her deep cuts and wounds, and months before forming the so thick scar tissues.
And... For the other thing... I don’t really think so that she will do again mistakes like this. I'm pretty sure that she'll be more smart in future. Dammit, she will have terrible scars in her back for all entire life!"
 
My girlfriend has whipped me once to see if we both liked it. Tied in an X to my wardrobe I'm completely in her control. I liked that I couldn't see her behind me so the lashes with an electric cable surprised me.
10 lashes across my back and shoulders really hurt but she really looked after me after. It is something we both look forward to again! :)
 
My girlfriend has whipped me once to see if we both liked it. Tied in an X to my wardrobe I'm completely in her control. I liked that I couldn't see her behind me so the lashes with an electric cable surprised me.
10 lashes across my back and shoulders really hurt but she really looked after me after. It is something we both look forward to again! :)
It can be intense, and electric cables are fairly… well, you know how bad (and also how good) they can be. I’m glad you both were comfortable trying that, and that you both enjoyed it. :)

You might also search for a “loopy Johnny” which is a similar kind of whip.

Thanks for sharing!
 
My girlfriend has whipped me once to see if we both liked it. Tied in an X to my wardrobe I'm completely in her control. I liked that I couldn't see her behind me so the lashes with an electric cable surprised me.
10 lashes across my back and shoulders really hurt but she really looked after me after. It is something we both look forward to again! :)
First of all, thanks again for the reaction post. I saw that you particularly liked the second part, the mostly hot, of Kristen and Pete in their sex intercourse.

And for what you have written.. Woww! Surely and interesting and particular experience.
 
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