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thehangingtree said:
I've been on hold for more than 30 minutes trying to pay a bill that isn't that big. Money must not mean much any more...
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Well it's not as bad as being on hold with the IRS. I paid estimated taxes. They credited it to the previous year, when I didn't owe anything. Then they refunded it because I didn't owe anything, but charged me interest for paying late even when I didn't owe anything. I got somebody who recognized that and fixed it by posting to the correct year, but she didn't have access to remove the penalty. I got somebody else who also was helpful, put the penalty on hold so I wouldn't get recurrent notices, but also didn't have access to fix it. She said I should send the paperwork to "Fresno". I did. Fresno notified me twice that there would be a delay and they wouldn't meet their 45-day response deadline. Then I started getting monthly computer-generated notices again. Rather than spend the priority mail fees for more than the bill on another stab at "Fresno" or a complaint to the "taxpayer advocate", I just paid the fucking $22--the 3-cent interest penalties were adding up, and they were threatening to sell my house. It's more than a 30-minute wait to contact anybody there (partly because Congress has cut their funding, to be fair), and as my accountant once said, "sometimes you get somebody who knows what they're doing and sometimes you don't". In this particular episode, I did once get somebody who didn't have a clue, wasn't about to look at the computer history, and simply quoted me the notice.
 
Frank Petrexa said:
Well it's not as bad as being on hold with the IRS. I paid estimated taxes. They credited it to the previous year, when I didn't owe anything. Then they refunded it because I didn't owe anything, but charged me interest for paying late even when I didn't owe anything. I got somebody who recognized that and fixed it by posting to the correct year, but she didn't have access to remove the penalty. I got somebody else who also was helpful, put the penalty on hold so I wouldn't get recurrent notices, but also didn't have access to fix it. She said I should send the paperwork to "Fresno". I did. Fresno notified me twice that there would be a delay and they wouldn't meet their 45-day response deadline. Then I started getting monthly computer-generated notices again. Rather than spend the priority mail fees for more than the bill on another stab at "Fresno" or a complaint to the "taxpayer advocate", I just paid the fucking $22--the 3-cent interest penalties were adding up, and they were threatening to sell my house. It's more than a 30-minute wait to contact anybody there (partly because Congress has cut their funding, to be fair), and as my accountant once said, "sometimes you get somebody who knows what they're doing and sometimes you don't". In this particular episode, I did once get somebody who didn't have a clue, wasn't about to look at the computer history, and simply quoted me the notice.
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At least one was honest!!!
 
thehangingtree said:
Tree must note that CF needs new points of view. If you have an idea and can somewhat type put your stories out... Tree is no Hemingway but has yet to be stoned for a story... though he has done that in one past one!!!
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Do you mean : 'to my opinion there is too much of the same on CF the last times'? an instigation to broaden the fantasy of the stories posted?
Just asking if I understood you well?
 
bellesouth said:
However, a wide body of opinion would say that it is the navel. Why? Because it makes a very useful receptacle for the salt when eating celery in bed.
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The origin of that was in a famous speech made to the Oxford Union by Gerard Hoffnung
60 years ago, it's still hilarious - the Bricklayer's Story is brilliant,
so are the letters from Tyrolean landladies -
'there is a French widow in every bedroom, affording delightful prospects'
'here you will be well fed up and agreeably drunk' .... :drink:

 
We're getting winds over 100km/h at the moment:eek::eek: - my house is apparently losing shingles (at least a few of them are hanging in the trees).:p:doh: The neighbour's fence blew down as well, and his patio gazebo blew away somewhere (probably into the old school yard adjacent). Anyone in the northeastern USA or eastern Ontario through to Montreal who's in this, take care. I don't think the roads are safe to drive right now.:eek: I'm staying in with some tea and crux stories.:cool: (I'd go for something stronger but I'm also on antibiotics for a tooth thing.)
 
Jollyrei said:
We're getting winds over 100km/h at the moment:eek::eek: - my house is apparently losing shingles (at least a few of them are hanging in the trees).:p:doh: The neighbour's fence blew down as well, and his patio gazebo blew away somewhere (probably into the old school yard adjacent). Anyone in the northeastern USA or eastern Ontario through to Montreal who's in this, take care. I don't think the roads are safe to drive right now.:eek: I'm staying in with some tea and crux stories.:cool: (I'd go for something stronger but I'm also on antibiotics for a tooth thing.)
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A bit different here, Jolly. Prognosis for today, sunshine :sun_smiley: and over 25 degrees Celsius. :zplayita:
 
Eulalia said:
The origin of that was in a famous speech made to the Oxford Union by Gerard Hoffnung
60 years ago, it's still hilarious - the Bricklayer's Story is brilliant,
so are the letters from Tyrolean landladies -
'there is a French widow in every bedroom, affording delightful prospects'
'here you will be well fed up and agreeably drunk' .... :drink:

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Yes - I was aware that this is where the notion came from. Thanks for posting the link.
 
thehangingtree said:
Good whatever time of day it is for my friends...
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While we sip the excellent brew courtesy of our civet slave bard, can we exercise the little grey cells with this thought, inspired by the planned aligning of the time zones in North & South Korea.

The world has many writing styles, many ways of designing letters and a few ways of depicting numbers. It has several calendars, with different starting dates for the months, and counting from different eras.

Yet to my knowledge we all appear to use the same clocks. Twelve hour analogue clock faces with a short hour hand and a longer one for minutes. 60 seconds to the minute; 24 hours to the day.

Why did this happen? Surely those countries that use a different calendar also had a time-keeping system? Why not keep their own?

Was European Imperialism so influential that our time system ruled the world, or did no other country have and therefore keep a system of their own?
 
old slave said:
While we sip the excellent brew courtesy of our civet slave bard, can we exercise the little grey cells with this thought, inspired by the planned aligning of the time zones in North & South Korea.

The world has many writing styles, many ways of designing letters and a few ways of depicting numbers. It has several calendars, with different starting dates for the months, and counting from different eras.

Yet to my knowledge we all appear to use the same clocks. Twelve hour analogue clock faces with a short hour hand and a longer one for minutes. 60 seconds to the minute; 24 hours to the day.

Why did this happen? Surely those countries that use a different calendar also had a time-keeping system? Why not keep their own?

Was European Imperialism so influential that our time system ruled the world, or did no other country have and therefore keep a system of their own?
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I think Cruxton held the patent on clocks...
Jollyrei said:
We're getting winds over 100km/h at the moment:eek::eek: - my house is apparently losing shingles (at least a few of them are hanging in the trees).:p:doh: The neighbour's fence blew down as well, and his patio gazebo blew away somewhere (probably into the old school yard adjacent). Anyone in the northeastern USA or eastern Ontario through to Montreal who's in this, take care. I don't think the roads are safe to drive right now.:eek: I'm staying in with some tea and crux stories.:cool: (I'd go for something stronger but I'm also on antibiotics for a tooth thing.)
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Hope you are safe!!!
 
thehangingtree said:
Hope you are safe!!!
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All seems to be standing at my place this morning, apart from the shingles from my roof lying on the front lawn and in the road. I'll have to survey the damage after my morning tea.

old slave said:
Why did this happen? Surely those countries that use a different calendar also had a time-keeping system? Why not keep their own?

Was European Imperialism so influential that our time system ruled the world, or did no other country have and therefore keep a system of their own?
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I'm not sure that a lot of other places used clocks. In Europe, especially England, France, and Spain, the clock was developed almost as a military requirement. The development of accurate clocks was necessary for navigation of naval ships. Accurate timekeeping was clearly important - look at the monumental architecture in Greenwich. Other civilizations had different navigation methods (Arabs, Polynesians), and did not really need clocks. I think it is safe to say that the reason the 12 hour clock was adopted worldwide is a combination of imperialism and the fact that nobody else ever invented a clock.
 
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