Veronika: Love, Pain and Pleasure

[bindhertocross]

Yes, you are entirely correct about all you said.

I was scared Sunday when we saw the two policemen walking our way in the forest, not only because I was naked, which I could have managed by myself with them, but primarily because of all the whip marks and bruises on my body and they could have arrested Sylvia for it.

So yes, for all these reasons, we must be more than prudent, and I thank you for taking the time to write me your wise advice.

cynthia's comments reminded me of some more thoughts that crossed my mind. Great advice cynthia!

I see you took some mighty lashes according to the picture you provided. I've always said that being a dom is hard work work...there's planning a session, making sure you're submissive is happy in the relationship, taking care of her needs mentally and physically, especially aftercare following a session, and keeping communication open.

I'm wondering if you are using a safe word, and in the case of my past, safe signals, as I sometimes made use of a gag in BDSM sessions. I'm curious as to whether you felt like you were "floating" mentally during the whipping or maybe drifting in and out of consciousness at any time. I'm thinking of the term "subspace", where the sub releases endorphins in her body, and may reach a point where pain is not felt anymore. This can be dangerous, as you may not feel the damage being inflicted on your body.

I find it odd in my past that my subs were a little older and wanted to try a lot of activities inherent in the lifestyle. I don't mind throwing out information that may, or may not be useful. I just want to make sure everything is, as we say, safe sane and consensual.

Funny story, you mentioned the police, you always have to be careful out in public to make sure children aren't around, or the police, or any others who may call the police about your activity. One sub of mine was potentially a screamer if her orgasm became too strong. We had to meet in airbnbs as we both had children at home. I had to be on the watch for a scream, so I could muffle it in time so the host wouldn't hear us and call the police.

It's ok to learn! It'll provide many more years of enjoyment to come! Looking forward to reading about it here!

 

[Crucified Veronika]

cynthia's comments reminded me of some more thoughts that crossed my mind. Great advice cynthia!

I see you took some mighty lashes according to the picture you provided. I've always said that being a dom is hard work work...there's planning a session, making sure you're submissive is happy in the relationship, taking care of her needs mentally and physically, especially aftercare following a session, and keeping communication open.

I'm wondering if you are using a safe word, and in the case of my past, safe signals, as I sometimes made use of a gag in BDSM sessions. I'm curious as to whether you felt like you were "floating" mentally during the whipping or maybe drifting in and out of consciousness at any time. I'm thinking of the term "subspace", where the sub releases endorphins in her body, and may reach a point where pain is not felt anymore. This can be dangerous, as you may not feel the damage being inflicted on your body.

I find it odd in my past that my subs were a little older and wanted to try a lot of activities inherent in the lifestyle. I don't mind throwing out information that may, or may not be useful. I just want to make sure everything is, as we say, safe sane and consensual.

Funny story, you mentioned the police, you always have to be careful out in public to make sure children aren't around, or the police, or any others who may call the police about your activity. One sub of mine was potentially a screamer if her orgasm became too strong. We had to meet in airbnbs as we both had children at home. I had to be on the watch for a scream, so I could muffle it in time so the host wouldn't hear us and call the police.

It's ok to learn! It'll provide many more years of enjoyment to come! Looking forward to reading about it here!

So kind of you!! I greatly appreciate it; you cannot imagine.

Sylvia is a novice dom, and I am a novice sub. Our mutual strong love helps us know when to stop and when to keep going.

And I never use a gag, on purpose, to let Sylvia have her way to feel herself better my reaction to pain and avoid risks.

I didn't know about "subspace" and the release of endorphins. Perhaps it is what happens to me, too, when I am on the cross, but I had pain all along the whipping, especially with the second whip, which was much more painful than the flogger.

I didn't look a lot at my body when she was whipping me, and of course, I could not see the result of it on my back; I was surprised to see my own whipped pictures.

We also care about children; even when we are nude at the beach, it's always with no families near us.

Indeed, I am happy to share here about my experiences and have comments about them that greatly help us.

Thank you again!

 

[cynthia the inocent]

Yes, you are entirely correct about all you said.

I was scared Sunday when we saw the two policemen walking our way in the forest, not only because I was naked, which I could have managed by myself with them, but primarily because of all the whip marks and bruises on my body and they could have arrested Sylvia for it.

So yes, for all these reasons, we must be more than prudent, and I thank you for taking the time to write me your wise advice.

I'm old. they don't waste sage advice on the young.

 

[slv6597]

Thank you! I hope you will find her!

Yes, I am lucky, even if I still don't know where my desires end. I feel so alive on my cross and being whipped.

Sometimes, I wonder if I would not like more than being just a submissive.

Today, I have been contacted by a girl who told me that after reading my stories, she is sure that I was born to be a slave, like her.

And since this morning, it turned and turned inside my head; I spent time looking at all the threads about slavery on the forum, looking at the pictures of slave girls, and indeed, I am wondering if it is not my real life to be a slave. I am lost.

But I am not sure Sylvia wants me to be her slave, her real slave.

You must discuss your needings with her. .if she doesn't want it you can't do it. Everything in bdsm must be done consensual always, it's a basic rule

 

[Crucified Veronika]

You must discuss your needings with her. .if she doesn't want it you can't do it. Everything in bdsm must be done consensual always, it's a basic rule

I already told her yesterday evening, and she agreed, telling me she was happy I wanted it because she also intended to go further with me in my submission to her, so I am HAPPY that I could be more submissive, more slave, and obey her and please her!

 

[slv6597]

I already told her yesterday evening, and she agreed, telling me she was happy I wanted it because she also intended to go further with me in my submission to her, so I am HAPPY that I could be more submissive, more slave, and obey her and please her!

If you be her slave you must satisfy her sexually and endure every punishment..of course you will have a safe word

 

[Crucified Veronika]

If you be her slave you must satisfy her sexually and endure every punishment..of course you will have a safe word

I already do all of this and have a safe word, too, but she told me that from now on, it will be more intense, painful and humiliating as if it is what I want to be for her, and I told her I would do whatever she wants without arguing.

But she told me that she didn't want that; she wanted me to accept what she would ask only if I wanted, that she wanted me to be a happy, willing slave.

I asked if she would chain me at home and force me to sleep and eat on the floor, as I had read on the Internet, but she told me that it was not necessary. My chain to her must first be in my head, and she doesn't want to treat me like an animal sleeping or eating on the floor.

She told me she loved me too much to force me to do such things.

I also asked her if she would brand me as her slave as I would like to prove to her that I belonged to her.

She told me that she doesn't want that either, that in her opinion, a Mistress who wants that one does it to be reassured herself, that the actual brand must be in my head and that the only brand she intends to write on my body is the whip marks and bruises.

I asked her if I would have a collar, and her answer was the same: it is not necessary for me as she knows how much I was already in love with her and that it is that love which is my real collar.

So, for now, I don't know exactly what will change for me now that I have asked her to be more than her submissive lover but her slave.

I just know that it will be more intense, painful and humiliating.

 

[bindhertocross]

I already do all of this and have a safe word, too, but she told me that from now on, it will be more intense, painful and humiliating as if it is what I want to be for her, and I told her I would do whatever she wants without arguing.

But she told me that she didn't want that; she wanted me to accept what she would ask only if I wanted, that she wanted me to be a happy, willing slave.

I asked if she would chain me at home and force me to sleep and eat on the floor, as I had read on the Internet, but she told me that it was not necessary. My chain to her must first be in my head, and she doesn't want to treat me like an animal sleeping or eating on the floor.

She told me she loved me too much to force me to do such things.

I also asked her if she would brand me as her slave as I would like to prove to her that I belonged to her.

She told me that she doesn't want that either, that in her opinion, a Mistress who wants that one does it to be reassured herself, that the actual brand must be in my head and that the only brand she intends to write on my body is the whip marks and bruises.

I asked her if I would have a collar, and her answer was the same: it is not necessary for me as she knows how much I was already in love with her and that it is that love which is my real collar.

So, for now, I don't know exactly what will change for me now that I have asked her to be more than her submissive lover but her slave.

I just know that it will be more intense, painful and humiliating.

Sounds like this will be an amazing relationship for both of you!

 

[TheLimey]

There are as many ways for a Dom(me) and slave relationship to work as there are people in those relationships.

Some show this by the wearing of collars, with brands, with chastity devices and chains around the house.

Some are much more subtle, with restrictions on clothing, with rules on how a slave should sit, and hold themselves, on how slave behave.

I'm intrigued to see how Sylvia will continue your slavery.

 

[Crucified Veronika]

Sounds like this will be an amazing relationship for both of you!

I just hope so!

I am the one who asked for it, and at the same time, I fear it; I fear it could damage our love; I fear I could not bear it, like entering a new unknown world of desires and pain.

 

[Crucified Veronika]

There are as many ways for a Dom(me) and slave relationship to work as there are people in those relationships.

Some show this by the wearing of collars, with brands, with chastity devices and chains around the house.

Some are much more subtle, with restrictions on clothing, with rules on how a slave should sit, and hold themselves, on how slave behave.

I'm intrigued to see how Sylvia will continue your slavery.

I am as intrigued as you!

 

[TheLimey]

I just hope so!

I am the one who asked for it, and at the same time, I fear it; I fear it could damage our love; I fear I could not bear it, like entering a new unknown world of desires and pain.

Ahhh welcome to a wonderful concept... Pushing your limits.

The fear of the unknown, of what you may be put to, what might be done and asked if you, is as much a part of BDSM as a whip and a pair of handcuffs.

 

[Crucified Veronika]

Ahhh welcome to a wonderful concept... Pushing your limits.

The fear of the unknown, of what you may be put to, what might be done and asked if you, is as much a part of BDSM as a whip and a pair of handcuffs.

Thank you for reassuring me

I already had to remain naked at home and never wear any bra or panties under my dresses, skirts, blouses or T-shirts but Sylvia just told me we will go shopping this afternoon to buy me new clothes able to show to all my slave condition.

She doesn't want yet to tell me what it will be...

 

[TheLimey]

Thank you for reassuring me

I already had to remain naked at home and never wear any bra or panties under my dresses, skirts, blouses or T-shirts but Sylvia just told me we will go shopping this afternoon to buy me new clothes able to show to all my slave condition.

She doesn't want yet to tell me what it will be...

And how does that make you feel? Anticipation, a little scared? Are the butterflies in your stomach starting to stretch their wings?

 

[Crucified Veronika]

And how does that make you feel? Anticipation, a little scared? Are the butterflies in your stomach starting to stretch their wings?

Yes, all of it. I am both scared and impatient to discover the first steps to my new life as a slave.

I am also scared because she told me that from now on, I will be more humiliated, and I think that buying me new clothes for my new slave condition includes humiliation, as I am only clothed outside the home.

Then, it can only mean she wants me to be ashamed or something like that in public.

I will leave home with her in a few minutes, and she told me to wear my shortest skirt and my sheerest blouse with a plunging neckline.

I already feel naked, even if clothed.

 

[TheLimey]

As the professional bike riders in the Giro say, 'Chapeau' to Sylvia. She knows exactly how to push your buttons, so to speak.

 

[slv6597]

Yes, all of it. I am both scared and impatient to discover the first steps to my new life as a slave.

I am also scared because she told me that from now on, I will be more humiliated, and I think that buying me new clothes for my new slave condition includes humiliation, as I am only clothed outside the home.

Then, it can only mean she wants me to be ashamed or something like that in public.

I will leave home with her in a few minutes, and she told me to wear my shortest skirt and my sheerest blouse with a plunging neckline.

I already feel naked, even if clothed.

As a slave i suppose she will ask you to participate at orgies , gangbangs,....a real slave does all these because they increase its humiliation and degradation...ofcourse everything must be consensual.......also public punishment as being chained at a whipping post naked in front of an audience and whipped for their satisfaction....there a lot of things that i can propose you

 

[kendelo]

I just hope so!

I am the one who asked for it, and at the same time, I fear it; I fear it could damage our love; I fear I could not bear it, like entering a new unknown world of desires and pain.

My thoughts on BDSM play are simply this. Safe, sane, and consensual with this caveat...there is nothing sexy about visits to an emergency room, a police station, or a lawyers office. Play accordingly.

 

[bindhertocross]

Thank you for reassuring me

I already had to remain naked at home and never wear any bra or panties under my dresses, skirts, blouses or T-shirts but Sylvia just told me we will go shopping this afternoon to buy me new clothes able to show to all my slave condition.

She doesn't want yet to tell me what it will be...

Nice, I like her style, I always enjoyed the element of surprise and my sub not knowing what was coming next...just know that she will respect your limits

 

[Crucified Veronika]

As the professional bike riders in the Giro say, 'Chapeau' to Sylvia. She knows exactly how to push your buttons, so to speak.

Yes, she is an expert at that!