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Venom
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Complete with a picture of Honni, I see. (Erich Honecker was the last "real" General Secretary of the GDR. His successor Egon Krenz held this position for less than two months before East German communism fully collapsed.)
nsur1
Governor
This is an extended water torture scene from a Spanish TV show or movie. Not sure if this is the inquisition (costumes seem a bit late for that) or a judicial interrogation -- they ask the victim for the whereabouts of her baby as far as I can tell. I'm not sure of the source as I found the clip with a generic name, but presumably somebody here can place it (@doe1971 perhaps?).
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nsur1
Governor
Another two water torture scenes, both from the same German TV show set in 1962 East Germany -- looks like a cold war spy story. Again, I found them without a name and although they look familiar, I can't quite place them. Nice scenes, though, in nice quality. Same blonde damsel in both clips, although the water torture in the second is for a different red-headed woman.
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hammers
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These scenes are from the Spanish TV Series "AGUILA ROJA" (2009-2010). The actress is Miryam Gallego playing the role of the wicked Marquise of Santillana.
nsur1
Governor
Many thanks, @hammers . I had seen Aguila Roja referenced before but never looked closer at it. Following your post, I found a source for the first three seasons with English sub-titles. Have only briefly delved into them, but noticed another very nice (and long-ish) torture scene for Miryam Gallego in S01E12. Here is my edit and screencaps -- I have tried to preserve some context to make it clearer what is going on, why she is being tortured and how she got out again. It involves a confusion between two keys, and having the wrong one meant the Marquise de Santillana is thought to be a traitor and is condemned to be locked up by her husband in an iron mask in a dungeon for life. When the husband discovers that the keys were mixed up without her knowledge, he stops the sleazy jailer in mid-molestation (boo!) and eventually clears her name and gets her released from the Mask. I have included the arrest scene (0:00 to 1:56) and the scene where the confusion of the keys is discovered (3:52 to 4:49), but if you only want the dungeon scenes you can skip these segments. Sorry, @doe1971 -- still no nudity. Miryam does have several nude scenes in the show, but they are not the torture ones.
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dommmu
Governor
To pick up again on the topic of terrible things that could happen at the GDR border...
Svenja Jung in "Der Palast", Episode 6 (2022)
Despite the incident with her sister at the border (see my earlier post), Marlene continues to visit her Christine and their mother in East Berlin. The two twins also trade places again so that Christine can see her bofriend who was banished from the GDR after applying for permanent departure. Everything works fine... until the Stasi* eventually crosses their game.
*The Stasi, short for "Ministerium für Staatssicherheit" ("ministry for state security") was the secret service of the GDR and notorious for spying on their own people.
When Marlene tries to travel into the GDR yet again, she is stopped by the border officials and is taken to an interrogation room, where they keep her for a while. A Stasi agent comes in and informs her that they know everything about the two sisters also tells her that Christine is now guilty of committing "Republikflucht" repeatedly. He also tells Marlene, that she will not be permitted to enter the GDR anymore (pictures 1-3). So Marlene has no chance to warn her sister.
After Marlene did not show up for the agreed meeting, Christine worries that something might have happened at the border (and she is right about it). She goes to her mother's house to discuss what to do now. Shortly after getting there, two Stasi agents show up and arrest Christine while her mother and her grandparents watch in horror. Despite being terrified, Christine tries to keep calm. But once she is left alone in her jail cell, she freaks out (pictures 4-9).
You can recognize well written immersive hero characters when you really want them to live happily ever after. And when I watched "Der Palast" and saw the Stasi arresting Christine with only 15 minutes of the last episode left, I was like: "O shit, this could end in tears". But luckily, her father uses his political influence to get his lost daughter out of jail in the end, which is a really cool arc for his character. He was responsible for the family being torn apart in the first place, and now he played a vital part in reuniting them again.
A thought from me:
The title of the miniseries "Der Palast" ("The Palace" in English) is easily derived from the famous Friedrichstadt-Palast, a famous revue theater in East Berlin. Many scenes of the series take place there, since Christine is the lead dancer of the ballet (if you are interested in seeing pictures from one of her daring performances, please check out my earlier post in another thread) and it is also where the two twin sister meet for the first time.
But there is also another "palace" that is frequently shown in the series: The border checkpoint "Bahnhof Friedrichstraße". Among East and West German citizens, it bore the grim nickname "Tränenpalast" ("palace of tears"). Today, it is a museum and a reminder of the inner German separation.
Svenja Jung in "Der Palast", Episode 6 (2022)
Despite the incident with her sister at the border (see my earlier post), Marlene continues to visit her Christine and their mother in East Berlin. The two twins also trade places again so that Christine can see her bofriend who was banished from the GDR after applying for permanent departure. Everything works fine... until the Stasi* eventually crosses their game.
*The Stasi, short for "Ministerium für Staatssicherheit" ("ministry for state security") was the secret service of the GDR and notorious for spying on their own people.
When Marlene tries to travel into the GDR yet again, she is stopped by the border officials and is taken to an interrogation room, where they keep her for a while. A Stasi agent comes in and informs her that they know everything about the two sisters also tells her that Christine is now guilty of committing "Republikflucht" repeatedly. He also tells Marlene, that she will not be permitted to enter the GDR anymore (pictures 1-3). So Marlene has no chance to warn her sister.
After Marlene did not show up for the agreed meeting, Christine worries that something might have happened at the border (and she is right about it). She goes to her mother's house to discuss what to do now. Shortly after getting there, two Stasi agents show up and arrest Christine while her mother and her grandparents watch in horror. Despite being terrified, Christine tries to keep calm. But once she is left alone in her jail cell, she freaks out (pictures 4-9).
You can recognize well written immersive hero characters when you really want them to live happily ever after. And when I watched "Der Palast" and saw the Stasi arresting Christine with only 15 minutes of the last episode left, I was like: "O shit, this could end in tears". But luckily, her father uses his political influence to get his lost daughter out of jail in the end, which is a really cool arc for his character. He was responsible for the family being torn apart in the first place, and now he played a vital part in reuniting them again.
A thought from me:
The title of the miniseries "Der Palast" ("The Palace" in English) is easily derived from the famous Friedrichstadt-Palast, a famous revue theater in East Berlin. Many scenes of the series take place there, since Christine is the lead dancer of the ballet (if you are interested in seeing pictures from one of her daring performances, please check out my earlier post in another thread) and it is also where the two twin sister meet for the first time.
But there is also another "palace" that is frequently shown in the series: The border checkpoint "Bahnhof Friedrichstraße". Among East and West German citizens, it bore the grim nickname "Tränenpalast" ("palace of tears"). Today, it is a museum and a reminder of the inner German separation.
nsur1
Governor
Thanks, @dommmu -- nice setup and production. I was sufficiently intrigued to check out this mini series on the ZDF Mediathek (where all episodes are available for free streaming from German IP addresses). I like the plot and Svenja Jung is very good (and very pretty in the naive and straightlaced way the role calls for). The two arrest scenes are fairly brief and show little (the only nudity is on the CCTV screen in the guards' office), but the threat of more extensive humiliation and violence is palpable. Svenja Jung has shown considerably more of her body in other film and TV roles in the past.
The setup reminds me of this old German porn shoot showing a Stasi interrogation, which is surprisingly well-acted and shot -- the two Stasi officers are entirely believable, the victim of their attentions is suitably intimidated and humiliated, it has a proper script which is well-delivered, and the set has authentic period furniture and decorations, including the mandatory Honecker photo on the wall. I don't think I have ever seen any of the three actors in any other porn shoot, so this may have been a one-off production. Pity. It was made in 1999, when there authentic props were still widely available and the memory was more fresh in people's mind (including the actors who based on their accents would have lived in the GDR). Has anybody come across any other films by "Moskito Film Studio Berlin"?
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nsur1
Governor
Browsing through the early seasons, Aguila Roja is a strange combination of fairly low-budget soap opera and really quite explicit violence, against men and women, much of which I have not seen clipped elsewhere. Here is a nice branding scene from S02E04 -- the actress is main cast member Inma Cuesta playing Margarita. Her sister was captured along with a large number of other sparsely-clad young women by slavers intending to sell them to the Arabs. Margarita goes looking for her, only to be captured herself. In this clip, we see Margarita being brought into the slavers' lair with a hood over her face. When it is removed, she recognises her sister, but the tearful reunion is interrupted by Margarita being dragged away and unceremoniously branded with a crescent brand on her buttocks. This must be a record for branding with the least amount of nudity: the slavers make a small cut in her dress to expose a patch of skin where the brand is placed. However, although the main character stays fully clothed, several of the extras playing the other captives are fully nude with much flesh on show.
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dommmu
Governor
Friederike Becht in "Schneller als die Angst", various episodes (2022) - IMDB
Police investigator Sunny Becker returns to service after a long sick leave. The official reason for her absence is that she was battling a pneumonia. The truth is, that she was recovering from being attacked, drugged and raped by a masked home invader.
Her first task back at the job is to find the serial rapist/killer Andre Haffner, who just escaped from prison. Given her own recent history, it is needless to say that she takes the case personally. Maybe a little too much. During her investigations, Sunny repeatedly runs into situations that trigger flashbacks from the fateful night.
What makes live even harder for her, is that her own defiler remains unidentified. He taunts her by sending her pictures he took from her.
Sunny eventually finds out who attacked her: It was a colleague from her own team! And he knows that she knows. When it comes to the showdown and Sunny is chasing the fugitive Haffner through an old factory building, her target knocks her out and ties her to chair to have his way with her. Another policeman shows up. It is the one who raped Sunny. Seeing his chance to get rid of her for good, he abandons Sunny and leaves her to Haffner.
Police investigator Sunny Becker returns to service after a long sick leave. The official reason for her absence is that she was battling a pneumonia. The truth is, that she was recovering from being attacked, drugged and raped by a masked home invader.
Her first task back at the job is to find the serial rapist/killer Andre Haffner, who just escaped from prison. Given her own recent history, it is needless to say that she takes the case personally. Maybe a little too much. During her investigations, Sunny repeatedly runs into situations that trigger flashbacks from the fateful night.
What makes live even harder for her, is that her own defiler remains unidentified. He taunts her by sending her pictures he took from her.
Sunny eventually finds out who attacked her: It was a colleague from her own team! And he knows that she knows. When it comes to the showdown and Sunny is chasing the fugitive Haffner through an old factory building, her target knocks her out and ties her to chair to have his way with her. Another policeman shows up. It is the one who raped Sunny. Seeing his chance to get rid of her for good, he abandons Sunny and leaves her to Haffner.
nsur1
Governor
Two scenes from the third series of "Babylon Berlin", set in 1929 against the backdrop of the disintegration of the Weimar Republic. Both scenes feature Leonie Benesch as Greta Overbeck, who was involved in a murky nazi plot to assassinate a high official in the previous series and is now in prison accused of murder.
In the first scene from S03E04, she is being tortured by fellow prisoners as retaliation for (falsely, because of threats against her baby son) blaming communists rather than nazis for the assassination. A warden with communist sympathies arranges for Greta to be alone with three communist prisoners at the end of mealtime. They push her head first into a bucket of dirty dishwater.
In the first scene from S03E04, she is being tortured by fellow prisoners as retaliation for (falsely, because of threats against her baby son) blaming communists rather than nazis for the assassination. A warden with communist sympathies arranges for Greta to be alone with three communist prisoners at the end of mealtime. They push her head first into a bucket of dirty dishwater.
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nsur1
Governor
SPOILER ALERT:
Leonie Benesch has an admirable range -- being entirely German in Babylon Berlin, she is very convincingly English in her role as Abigail Fix opposite David Tennant's Phileas Fogg in the new adaptation of "Around the World in 80 Days".
The second clip is a long and tense sequence showing Greta's eventual execution by axe decapitation -- the Nazi sympathiser in the police force who had blackmailed her into blaming the communists arranges her execution to be brought forward despite a pending appeal. Greta's best friend, assistant police detective (and part-time prostitute) Charlotte Ritter gets an emergency court order to stop the execution and races to the prison to deliver it. However, the baddie arranges for Charlotte to be locked in an entrance hall until it is too late, with a clear view of the prison yard where Greta is being beheaded.
Leonie Benesch has an admirable range -- being entirely German in Babylon Berlin, she is very convincingly English in her role as Abigail Fix opposite David Tennant's Phileas Fogg in the new adaptation of "Around the World in 80 Days".
In a strange plot parallel, Leonie has a similarly desparate chase through the streets of Hong Kong in that series, trying to deliver a last-minute pardon from the Governor to stop David Tennant from being flogged as a jewellery thief. Like Charlotte, the pardon is also delivered seconds too late, albeit with less terminal consequences.
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Venom
Assistant executioner
The Protégé (2021)
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When a seasoned hitman is assassinated himself, his protégée (female form!) seeks vengeance. Naturally Anna’s (Maggie Q) quest is not met with enthusiasm by every party involved...
After confronting one of the bad guys, Anna is captured and interrogated. As a mandatory waterboarding session does not bring anything worthwhile to the table, she is hanged in a criminally amateurish fashion. You can already guess how that turns out, and in my opinion those thugs had it coming.
The Protégé offers decent action and an interesting cast, but has a blatant identity problem. The general tone is incoherent, and a distinctive lack of flow can be found between certain scenes, as if they originated from different versions of the script or even different genres altogether.
The Protégé (2021) - IMDb
The Protégé: Directed by Martin Campbell. With Michael Keaton, Maggie Q, Samuel L. Jackson, David Rintoul. Rescued as a child by the legendary assassin Moody, Anna is the world's most skilled contract killer. However, when Moody is brutally killed, she vows revenge for the man who taught her...
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When a seasoned hitman is assassinated himself, his protégée (female form!) seeks vengeance. Naturally Anna’s (Maggie Q) quest is not met with enthusiasm by every party involved...
After confronting one of the bad guys, Anna is captured and interrogated. As a mandatory waterboarding session does not bring anything worthwhile to the table, she is hanged in a criminally amateurish fashion. You can already guess how that turns out, and in my opinion those thugs had it coming.
The Protégé offers decent action and an interesting cast, but has a blatant identity problem. The general tone is incoherent, and a distinctive lack of flow can be found between certain scenes, as if they originated from different versions of the script or even different genres altogether.
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doe1971
Tribune
LOL, no expectation here. I've been skimming through the show some few years ago, I was rather dissapointed by the lack of nudity so yeah. I found it on a Colombian network, geolocked at that time.
nsur1
Governor
Well, the second scene does have nudity. Admittedly not the main character -- she manages to get her bottom cheek branded without first baring it -- but there are two fully-exposed sets of breasts belonging to chained-up captives...:LOL, no expectation here. I've been skimming through the show some few years ago, I was rather dissapointed by the lack of nudity so yeah. I found it on a Colombian network, geolocked at that time.
doe1971
Tribune
Yeah, VERY incidental. I saved the branding clip but never checked it again. :/ In S08E11 there's another whipping fully clothed (?!) if you want to skip a lot of ordinary episodes.
nsur1
Governor
Thanks for the heads-up, @doe1971. I have checked the whipping scene in S08E11, not expecting much from your description. To my surprise, I found it is long and really quite explicit. It's a judicial flogging at a whipping post, on naked skin and ending with a very (!) bloody back. Indeed, it's a rare instance of a mainstream production not shying away from the aftermath of a flogging.
The source I found is in Spanish with Russian sub-titles, and as I speak neither of these languages I am a bit vague on the plot. As far as I can tell, the (typically ludicrous) background story is that a middle-aged attendant/lady in waiting/confidante of Lucrecia (the Marquesa de Santillana, alternating between being the victim and the perpetrator of appaling violence throughout the series), dressed very demurely and severely in a high-neck black dress, attends to Lucretia during her bath. Lucrecia had lost sight in one eye a couple of series earlier and had been sporting an eye patch ever since. During the bath, a servant gets some water into the injured eye, which (for some reason) miraculously recovers her eyesight. Lucrecia is ecstatic, jumps out of the batch in the nude and embraces the attendant, who impulsively kisses Lucrecia fully on the mouth. That very second, Lucrecia's husband (the local sheriff) walks in the door and sees the kiss. The attendant is arrested and sentenced to be flogged for immoral and un-Christian conduct (not sure of the dialogue here, but at one point Lucrecia seems to refer to 200 -- "dos cientos" -- lashes).
Cut to judicial flogging in a courtyard. The convicted lady-in-waiting is no longer in her prim dress but in a coarse shift with open and bedraggled hair. She is led through the crowd who abuse her and pelt her with vegetables. She is then tied to the whipping post, the shift pulled away to expose her shoulders and most of her back, and then flogged until she collapses in a bloody heap at the base of the post. In a subsequent scene set the following day, she is dragged into Lucrecia's chambers by armed guards, being barely able to walk. Lucrecia makes the guards show her the bloody and scarred back, then there is a short exchange which I didn't understand during which the convicted lady-in-waiting gives out a distressed wail, then Lucrecia gives her a key and she is dragged away from the chambers, not sure to what fate.
I have made a clip of the scene -- I have included the post-flogging scene in Lucrecia's chambers, and originally also wanted to include the Lesbian kiss and arrest scene, but it made the file too large for upload. I have however included a screenshot from the arrest scene to show her in her original formal black dress and severe hairstyle.
View attachment Aguila Roja Judicial Flogging 8x11.mp4
I like the scene because it concerns a (relatively) high status middle-aged woman with not exactly plain but certainly not glamorous looks. Also because it leaves no doubt that this is a severe and brutal penalty with consequences for life.
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A fragment of the Soviet musical-historical film "The Last Relic" 1969. The abbess forces her niece to become a nun or to marry a man she does not like. The niece resists and for this she is kept in a monastery and punished with a whip. Nudity is shown very limited. Excerpt approximately 1 min.
